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Did you know that there is no such thing as a Palestinian people?

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No' date=' just people who pick and choose history and facts based on their narrowmindedness.[/quote']

I feel you're the most narrowminded person here

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I feel you're the most narrowminded person here

 

yes because not picking and choosing history and facts makes you narrowminded...guess being openminded you just listen to what you like and ignore what you dont.

 

thanks for that info.:rolleyes:

As soon as people see themselves as a nation, they are one.

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It does seem to be a religion with strings attached

 

They are a ethnic group too. see you wont acknowledge facts you dont like

 

Like i said it can be and/or a ethnic group or religion.

 

Jews: A Race? A Historically-Inbred Ethnic Group? A Religion? Or All Three?

 

Are Jews a race? Yes...and no. Yes, they are people related by DNA or genes. But most anthropologists do not classify Jews as a race, or a subrace, since a) Ashkenazim Jews, i.e. most, Jews are a racial hybrid, and b) calling Jews anything other than a religion has been taboo since WWII. Further, that question "are Jews a race?" depends on the/your scientific definition of the word "race" [subspecies]. The term "ethnic group" is probably more accurate in describing the Jew, although "race" can also be used.

 

http://wsi.matriots.com/What%20is%20a%20Jew.html

yes true ignorance, disregard a fact because it does not fit your political opinion.

 

Life is unfair, truth is unfair, facts are unfair, history is unfair, nothing in this world is fair. you live in lala land.

 

People like you like to pick and choose what facts they like, its sick. i believe in facts that i dont like or even hate. facts such as bush screwing america over , or we slaughtered american indians, but i dont pick and choose i believe in facts even when i dont like them.

 

umm, you disregard almost everything gareth posts. And he backs up his articles with facts. You just choose to ignore what he writes, labelling it liberal spin and paranoid propaganda.

 

So that makes you sick as well, right?

Hey, I know.

 

I do try. But everything is whacky to him. Even things which are deadly serious. And this isn't really an effort to bitch at him really.

It's just how he is alot of the time.

 

He's only one person though. He can stay how he is forever.....that's his free choice.

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umm, you disregard almost everything gareth posts. And he backs up his articles with facts. You just choose to ignore what he writes, labelling it liberal spin and paranoid propaganda.

 

So that makes you sick as well, right?

 

He backs up his articles with opinion. big difference

 

facts and blurry evidence with mostly opinions are two different things.

 

In fact Gareth chooses to ignore key facts, such as palestinains arent a race, proven fact, facts that ossama did 911, a fact about the president of iran being in a cult of the 12th Imam, proven fact he ignores, those are not opinions, unlike his articles.

 

he has shown some facts about global warming and ones i would like to be untrue but arent such as the NORTH AMERICAN UNION. he backed that up with lots of facts. so i believed it. i follow the facts even if i dont like them. I wish he was wrong about Bush and the NAU, but he's not. so thus proving i will follow facts that go agaisnt my political views.;)

sorry but the facts speak for themselve' date=' no such thing as palestinians.[/quote']

 

Facts,what facts?

 

You go and copy/ past article from Zionist site and saying facts speak for themdelves

 

I can copy/past an article saying that's no Israeli people before and said the facts speak for themselves

 

Bring a strong evidence [ but not from poor sites ]

yes true ignorance, disregard a fact because it does not fit your political opinion.

 

Life is unfair, truth is unfair, facts are unfair, history is unfair, nothing in this world is fair. you live in lala land.

 

People like you like to pick and choose what facts they like, its sick. i believe in facts that i dont like or even hate. facts such as bush screwing america over , or we slaughtered american indians, but i dont pick and choose i believe in facts even when i dont like them.

 

I think you who close his eyes from shining facts

 

You see the facts and you knoe that it true but you don't except it maybe because the ego

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Facts,what facts?

 

You go and copy/ past article from Zionist site and saying facts speak for themdelves

 

I can copy/past an article saying that's no Israeli people before and said the facts speak for themselves

 

Bring a strong evidence [ but not from poor sites ]

 

 

Science, history, archeology. they are not a race or ethnic group, but a group of people living in a land, thats how they got their name. their are different ethnic groups within the palestinian people, even different races, but not one same race or ethnic group.

 

P.s. history AND archeology prove israel existed thousands of years ago. we have records of different tribes and civiliazations going to war with israel, but i guess every nation in ancient times was in on the zionist lie:rolleyes:

 

we have records from the romans of them conqeuring the jewish nation

He backs up his articles with opinion. big difference

 

facts and blurry evidence with mostly opinions are two different things.

 

In fact Gareth chooses to ignore key facts, such as palestinains arent a race, proven fact, facts that ossama did 911, a fact about the president of iran being in a cult of the 12th Imam, proven fact he ignores, those are not opinions, unlike his articles.

 

he has shown some facts about global warming and ones i would like to be untrue but arent such as the NORTH AMERICAN UNION. he backed that up with lots of facts. so i believed it. i follow the facts even if i dont like them. I wish he was wrong about Bush and the NAU, but he's not. so thus proving i will follow facts that go agaisnt my political views.;)

 

 

No no no, this is you believing what you want to believe and just leaving out what you can't deal with...

 

Hey, I don't quite hate you but your idea of what 'facts' actually are is very strange. I have provided loads of pretty decent facts on 9/11.....where's your facts that 'Osama did 9/11'??

While there is truth in Miller's article, and I'm actually glad someone said it...it could be taken badly in the present. Historically, the article is correct. But in today's world, as was said, it is not. No more than saying that there is no Canada because 400 years ago there was not. I'm torn on this one, because it's been driving me nuts that people are dying over a claim to a homeland that never was...but I think the thread is more harmful than not.

Exactly.....what good will come from going around saying "hey, did you know that there is no such thing as a Palestinian people?"

 

It's just complete waste of time. It is more harmful to the situation.

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It proves the Jews have more of aright to the land, since they are a ethnic group who owned the land first. while the palestinians are not, and have only recently come to the land of palestine. thats the whole purpose of this, furthering my point of israel's right to exist.

oh, but I agree that they both have a right to exist. It's just gone too far now to discuss who should be allowed to live there....

I think a discussion on organising a situation where fair distribution of the land as well as attempts to curb violence in the region is a much better use of time at present.

 

That's obviously a very tough task but it's a lot better than the trouble caused when people shout on about the legitimacy of certain peoples existence.

They may be a nation now days' date=' but are not a race or ethnic group.[/quote']Neither were Americans, yet they became one.And still sloughtered thoose who came before them(the Indians).

And what's with the race thing?!

Are you trying to say Jews are a race, so that that gives them more rights than it would be given to a nation.They are caucasian, they've got all the same physical features and the same skink color like Americans, French, Germans, etc...Get over it!

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Neither were Americans, yet they became one.And still sloughtered thoose who came before them(the Indians).

And what's with the race thing?!

Are you trying to say Jews are a race, so that that gives them more rights than it would be given to a nation.They are caucasian, they've got all the same physical features and the same skink color like Americans, French, Germans, etc...Get over it!

 

Americans arent a race, palestinians arent a race, jews arenta race but a ethnic group who owned the land way before anyone else alive today has, thus it is theirs.

 

the american genocide has nothing to do with this issue, nor does any other genocide.

 

jews are a ethic group, who were the second group of people to live on that land, the FIRST group of people the caaninites are long gone, thus leaving them as the oldest owners of the area. GET OVER IT, they are a ethnic group.

 

If someones steals your car you owned first does it make it their car? no....how is it different with land?

Exactly.....what good will come from going around saying "hey, did you know that there is no such thing as a Palestinian people?"

 

It's just complete waste of time. It is more harmful to the situation.

 

I totally agree with you there, it is a waste of time indeed.

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I totally agree with you there' date=' it is a waste of time indeed.[/quote']

 

Yes because learning the background of the issue in the modern world is a waste of time:dozey:

 

The history has no affect on the present:rolleyes:

answer me this, how would you feel if you were palestinian and someone told you that you dont even exist?

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answer me this' date=' how would you feel if you were palestinian and someone told you that you dont even exist?[/quote']

 

I'd laugh and show my history. im not saying they dont physically exist, but they are not a race or ethnic group. they are comprised of many different races and ethnic groups, named after where they live not what race or ethnic group they are. they didnt exist as palestinians until recent years.

I highly doubt you'd laugh, you'd feel offended and that would be the general feeling for anyone who reads something similar. I still dont know what positive thing can come out of this.

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