Larry Miller which appeared in the Daily Standard on 22 April 2002.

 

"A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service to all Americans who still don't get it,

I now offer you the story of the Middle East in just a few paragraphs, which is all you really need.

 

Here we go:

 

The Palestinians want their own country.

There's just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians.

It's a made up word.

Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years.

Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian" sounds ancient

but is really a modern invention

 

Before the Israelis won the land in the 1967 war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, the West Bank was owned by Jordan , and there were no "Palestinians."

 

As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the "Palestinians," weeping for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation."

 

So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" anymore to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths, until someone points out they're being taped.

 

Instead, let's call them what they are:

"Other Arabs Who Can't Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In

The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death."

 

I know that's a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN.

How about this, then: "Adjacent Jew-Haters."

Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country.

Oops, just one more thing. No, they don't.

They could've had their own country any time in the last thirty years, especially two years ago at Camp David but if you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living.

 

That's no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel .

They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course -- that's where the real fun is -- but mostly they want Israel.

 

Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel - or "The Zionist Entity" as their textbooks call it --

for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people

away from the fact that they're the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God's Earth, and if you've ever been around God's Earth . . . you know that's really saying something.

 

It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Midleast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the

world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.

 

Chew this around & spit it out: 500 million Arabs; 5 million Jews.

Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it.

And now these same folks swear that, if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals..

 

Really? Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea?

Oh, that? We were just kidding.

 

My friend Kevin Rooney made a gorgeous point the other day:

Just reverse the Numbers.

Imagine 500 million Jews and 5 million Arabs.

I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it .

Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves? Of course not.

 

Or marshaling every fiber and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab State into the sea? Nonsense.

Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents? Impossible.

Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children? Disgusting.

 

No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.

 

Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that, with vital operations in Iraq and others, it's in our interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as possible, and, after all, that can't be much harder than stabilizing a roomful of super models who've just had their drugs taken away.

 

However, in any big-picture strategy, there's always a danger of losing moral weight. We've already lost some.

After September 11th, our president told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them.

Beautiful.

Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City every week (and then every day), start to do the same thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint.

 

If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done with it and kill everything south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan .

 

another great site to look at

 

http://www.masada2000.org/been-had.html

WE'VE ALL BEEN HAD!

 

 

 

Did you know that there was never any country called Palestine? Did you know that there is no such thing as a Palestinian people?

 

The ideas that the West Bank and Gaza are occupied Palestinian land, and that the Palestinian people are fighting for their land, have been accepted by most of the governments of the world and by most of the media in the world. But if you read on, you will see that these two claims are the biggest lies ever deliberately perpetrated on humanity.

 

Check out any map of the Middle East and see for yourself. You will find Palestine listed as a region as it always has been, but definitely not a country. We can locate the Mojave Desert on the map, but we still do not recognize it as our 51st state, let alone a country. Similarly, the region of Siberia is a region not a state. Or the Sahara is a region not a state, etc. Neither is Palestine a state. It never was a country, just a region.

 

 

 

Importantly, the Jews did not displace anyone, because no one permanently resided there. It was a land inhabited by nomadic, Bedouin tribes. The whole region was nothing but deserts and swamps. Only about 120,000 Arabs resided in an area that covered the territories, the state of Israel and Jordan. When Mark Twain visited the area, he wrote he found nothing but a wasteland.

 

Map of Israel (West Bank and Gaza included)During the 19 years that the territories, including Jerusalem and Gaza, were occupied by the kingdoms of Jordan and Egypt, (refer to http://masada2000.org/historical.html) no one talked about a Palestinian state, not the Arab countries, not the United Nations. Nobody asked Jordan or Egypt to abdicate their ownership and give it to the Palestinians. Not even the Palestinians themselves said anything about a Palestinian state or a Palestinian people, because nobody heard of a Palestinian people. It never existed.

 

The fact simply is that there are no Palestinians. These people are Arabs like all other Arabs, and they happen to live in a region called Palestine. They are not a separate people.

 

What makes a separate people? Religion, language, culture, garb, cuisine, etc. The Arabs in Palestine speak the same language, practice the same religion, have the same culture, etc., as all the other Arabs. The few minor differences that exist between them are like the minor differences that exist between the American Northerners and Southerners, Easterners and Westerners... but they are still all Americans. People in the south of France are quite different from the people in the north, but they are still all French. These inconsequential differences do not make a people.

 

The Arabs living in Syria or Jordan, etc., are also the same Arabs, but they are each a separate nation because they each have a separate country. The so-called Palestinians want a separate country because they claim to be a separate nation. They are not. They were never a separate people before the new state of Israel. How did they become one now?

 

Because of these lies, the so-called "Palestinians" feel justified in sending suicide bombers to kill women, children, babies, old men, old women and noncombatant citizens. Because of these lies, the United Nations and the media of the world are condemning Israel who is acting less harshly than any other country would act in retaliation for such heinous attacks. What is the United States doing in Afghanistan, a totally foreign country? Killing Afghanis. Why? Because they attacked us on Sept. 11. I understand this. But why do they not understand that that is exactly what Israel is doing, only on a much smaller scale?

 

Ask yourself this: Should the use of terror ever be rewarded? When is the use of terrorism justified as a military tactic? As a political tactic? As an economic tactic? What implications does this hold for future conflicts?

 

Let us examine the truths here:

 

Arab "Palestinian?" with Flag of "Palestine?"1) There never was a Palestinian state or a Palestinian nation. There are no Palestinian people, per se. Rather, these are Arabs living in a region that historically has been called many things, including "Palestine."

 

2) Israel did not go to war against a Palestinian state and occupy its land. Rather, Israel was attacked by six Arab countries at once. She defended herself, defeated her attackers, and won the so-called territories, not from the Palestinians, but from Jordan and Egypt.

 

3) Jerusalem was never the capital of any state but Israel. It was certainly never the capital of a country that never existed. Why should the Palestinians get any part of it? Because they want it? Because they have terrorists?

 

4) Jerusalem, under the current Israeli control, is a free and open city. Israel, as a democracy, guarantees freedom of religion within its borders. Contrast this fact with areas that have come under Palestinian occupation. What percentage of Christians have left in recent years because they cannot stand the harassment and persecution?

 

5) Most Arabs living in Palestine today are not indigenous to the region. It was not until after the Jews had changed deserts and swamps into a productive and thriving land that the Arabs started migrating there. Arafat himself was born and raised in Cairo, Egypt. Did you know that?

 

The belief that giving the Palestinians a state will bring peace is a delusion. The truth is that they want it all. The short-term goal is a state consisting of the West Bank and Gaza. The long-term goal is a state which includes all of "historical Palestine," including Jordan.

 

How do I know this?

 

The late Faisal Husseini, Arafat's Jerusalem representative, a man who was cultured, sophisticated and considered the most moderate of all the Palestinians, shortly before his death on May 31, 2001, expressed his true feelings in an interview with the popular Egyptian newspaper el Arav. Husseini said: "We must distinguish the strategies and long-term goals from the political-phased goals which we are compelled to accept due to international pressures." But the "ultimate goal is the liberation of all of historical Palestine." Explicitly he said: "Oslo has to be viewed as a Trojan Horse."

 

He even added and clarified that it is the obligation of all the Palestinian forces and factions to see the Oslo Accords as "temporary" steps, as "gradual" goals, because in this way, "We are setting an ambush for the Israelis and cheating them." He also differentiated between "strategic," long-term, "higher" goals, and "political" short-term goals dependent on "the current international establishment, balance of power" etc.

 

All of historical Palestine! Does not this include all of Israel and all of Jordan?

 

What does this say to you?

 

Unless the Arabs recognize and accept these truths, even if they are given a state of their own, and no matter how many agreements and treaties they sign, they will always feel wronged, cheated, and forced into giving up what they now claim is theirs. They will continue to plot and look for an opportunity to destroy Israel in order to take back what they claim is theirs, especially the younger generation that has been brainwashed to hate the occupying enemy. Whether there is a Palestinian state or not, there will be no peace.

 

Only a massive and ongoing re-education of the Arab people to these truths will enable meaningful negotiations to begin, followed by a lasting peace between Arabs and Jews. It is therefore critical that everyone who has an audience, whether in print or other media, use the forum they have available to repeat these truths again and again until they reach the consciousness of those waging war in the Middle East.

See this

 

 

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1759310#post1759310

sorry but the facts speak for themselve, no such thing as palestinians.

This thread needs to be killed.

 

Now.

This thread needs to be killed.

 

Now.

 

God forbid we use reason and facts to prove a point....next we might learn something...yeah kill it:rolleyes:

I don't mind that^ but just saying "sorry but the facts speak for themselve, no such thing as palestinians." isn't helping......

 

The fact is that there ARE Palestinians in the world and the situation there is bad enough without this sort of writing by "Larry Miller". They are something I don't want to support and I'd rarther help this situation than have people make it worse.......just like I don't want to support the people who say that they don't recognise Jews........because after all they DO exist in our world today and the vast majority of both sides want peace.

 

How do you think they feel when people go around saying "your people don't exist".....it's just unnesseseraly fueling an already raging fire.

I agree with Gareth. (for once!)

I've seen photographic evidence of the existance of Palestinians

sorry but the facts speak for themselve' date=' no such thing as palestinians.[/quote']

 

 

I think you didn't read the speech

 

Are you afraid?

I think you didn't read the speech

 

Are you afraid?

 

I did, and im still going with archeology and history backed up with evidence that no palestinians exist, just arabs living in that region. you must not have read my post.

I don't mind that^ but just saying "sorry but the facts speak for themselve, no such thing as palestinians." isn't helping......

 

The fact is that there ARE Palestinians in the world and the situation there is bad enough without this sort of writing by "Larry Miller". They are something I don't want to support and I'd rarther help this situation than have people make it worse.......just like I don't want to support the people who say that they don't recognise Jews........because after all they DO exist in our world today and the vast majority of both sides want peace.

 

How do you think they feel when people go around saying "your people don't exist".....it's just unnesseseraly fueling an already raging fire.

 

Palestinians are nothing different then any arab in that region...same group of people different name.

 

The jews however can trace their ethinicity back to thousands of years ago and are a different ethic group, the palestinians however are the exact same as an average arab. They are not a race or ethic group different then arabs, just a group of arabs called by a different name.

I don't care. This topic has a bad smell.

Lol whatever dude, its backed up by evidence.

There's that smell again.

 

This so-called "evidence" of yours is pointless. Causes more arguments and less action.

 

I hate it.

just like your posts..

Oooooooooh. *hand bags*

Hey, you post whacky theories not backed up by evidence...dont get mad when i post something backed up.

whole world admited by palastine nationalty and some like you dont admitt by that ,its being racist and how come plastine ppl more than jews ppl and how isreali want to make apeace with palastine? be fair

Hey' date=' you post whacky theories not backed up by evidence...[/quote']

 

You always say that yet I always provide data to support my posts.

whole world admited by palastine nationalty and some like you dont admitt by that ' date='its being racist and how come plastine ppl more than jews ppl and how isreali want to make apeace with palastine? be fair[/quote']

 

Im being fair, im paying attention to facts, facts you have to accept even if you dont like them.

Im being fair' date=' im paying attention to facts, facts you have to accept even if you dont like them.[/quote']

You're being unfair and argumentative in my opinion. And we don't have to accept facts if we don't like them, this isn't wikipedia here, we can habour our own biases and disregard facts we don't agree with.

You're being unfair and argumentative in my opinion. And we don't have to accept facts if we don't like them' date=' this isn't wikipedia here, we can habour our own biases and disregard facts we don't agree with.[/quote']

 

yes true ignorance, disregard a fact because it does not fit your political opinion.

 

Life is unfair, truth is unfair, facts are unfair, history is unfair, nothing in this world is fair. you live in lala land.

 

People like you like to pick and choose what facts they like, its sick. i believe in facts that i dont like or even hate. facts such as bush screwing america over , or we slaughtered american indians, but i dont pick and choose i believe in facts even when i dont like them.

yes true ignorance, disregard a fact because it does not fit your political opinion.

 

Life is unfair, truth is unfair, facts are unfair, history is unfair, nothing in this world is fair. you live in lala land.

 

People like you like to pick and choose what facts they like, its sick. i believe in facts that i dont like or even hate. facts such as bush screwing america over , or we slaughtered american indians, but i dont pick and choose i believe in facts even when i dont like them.

You hate yourself don't you?

You hate yourself don't you?

 

No, just people who pick and choose history and facts based on their narrowmindedness.

 

i keep an open mind, follow facts even when they go agaisnt my views.