Did you know the Muslim launched alot of crusades before the Christians did?

 

As I said, there are countless examples.......................

If i went to your country and started going around saying there is no Allah - i would get into trouble - just as denying the holocaust in certain countries would also get you into trouble.

 

Its a sensistive subject. Someone else has explained it better in the other thread.

 

Well put.

Did you know the Muslim launched alot of crusades before the Christians did?

 

You said MUSLIMS make CRUSADES :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3:

 

How you put those two word together?:thinking:

You said MUSLIMS make CRUSADES :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3:

 

How you put those two word together?:thinking:

 

Now you mention it..................................... :rolleyes:

 

Anyway, I think you know what he means.;)

If i went to your country and started going around saying there is no Allah - i would get into trouble - just as denying the holocaust in certain countries would also get you into trouble.

 

Its a sensistive subject. Someone else has explained it better in the other thread.

 

 

We in Egypt punish for the denying the Holy things like,if you saying there is no Islam you get punish,if you saying there is no Christ you get punish,if you saying there is no Judaism you get punish.We punish for all holy denying,we didn't except one of those holy things and deprive denying it

 

But in others countries they didn't deprive denying civil or holy matters except the Holocaust

Now you mention it..................................... :rolleyes:

 

Anyway, I think you know what he means.;)

 

He said Muslims and Crusades,you can't put the two words together.The History called it crusades because who did it was Christians

We in Egypt punish for the denying the Holy things like,if you saying there is no Islam you get punish,if you saying there is no Christ you get punish,if you saying there is no Judaism you get punish.We punish for all holy denying,we didn't except one of those holy things and deprive denying it

 

But in others countries they didn't deprive denying civil or holy matters except the Holocaust

 

I don't care whether it's against the law or not. Such statements/denials shouldn't be made out of respect, whatever your views are.

This is about common decency.;)

Eichmann arranged the secret Wannsee Conference, held in January 1942. Here the finishing touches were made to the final solution of the Jewish question. As Eichmann later conceded at trial: "The discussion covered killing, elimination, and annihilation." There Eichmann presented his report on the experimental use of truck-mounted gas chambers. Sort of like a fumigation tent on wheels. At the meeting it was agreed that this technique would be expanded for use on a massive scale. After Eichmann wrote up and circulated the meeting minutes, concentration camps were redesignated as death camps, and equipped with gas chambers and crematories.

 

It was Eichmann's responsibility to solve the endless logistical problems involved in transporting Jews to the death camps. He traveled all over Europe to inspect the incredible undertaking and grease the wheels wherever necessary. In a 1944 communique to Heinrich Himmler, Eichmann estimated that the SS had killed about six million Jews. Later this letter would be presented as damning evidence at trial.

 

 

Still dont believe the holocaust happened?

I don't care whether it's against the law or not. Such statements/denials shouldn't be made out of respect' date=' whatever[/i'] your views are.

This is about common decency.;)

 

 

So,what you care about?

Eichmann arranged the secret Wannsee Conference, held in January 1942. Here the finishing touches were made to the final solution of the Jewish question. As Eichmann later conceded at trial: "The discussion covered killing, elimination, and annihilation." There Eichmann presented his report on the experimental use of truck-mounted gas chambers. Sort of like a fumigation tent on wheels. At the meeting it was agreed that this technique would be expanded for use on a massive scale. After Eichmann wrote up and circulated the meeting minutes, concentration camps were redesignated as death camps, and equipped with gas chambers and crematories.

 

It was Eichmann's responsibility to solve the endless logistical problems involved in transporting Jews to the death camps. He traveled all over Europe to inspect the incredible undertaking and grease the wheels wherever necessary. In a 1944 communique to Heinrich Himmler, Eichmann estimated that the SS had killed about six million Jews. Later this letter would be presented as damning evidence at trial.

 

 

Still dont believe the holocaust happened?

 

 

 

They make him confess by force to say that,like what they did with David Irving

They make him confess by force to say that' date='like what they did with David Irving[/quote']

 

How do we know that isn't what's happened to you??:thinking:

I'm seriously beginning to wonder....................... :dozey:

David Irving was never made to confess by force, he changed his mind years ago.

 

And that evidence "in a 1944 communique to Heinrich Himmler, Eichmann estimated that the SS had killed about six million Jews" was a memo written by him in 1944.

I haven't read every post, but my short answer to the original question is YES!!!

David Irving was never made to confess by force, he changed his mind years ago.

 

And that evidence "in a 1944 communique to Heinrich Himmler, Eichmann estimated that the SS had killed about six million Jews" was a memo written by him in 1944.

 

So,if he discovered the truth years ago,why he didn't lunched a book to correct what he said

 

or he waited to lunch it when he get jail

Lol, actually he never said the holocaust never happened but that Hitler didnt know about it.

 

In 1977, Irving published Hitler's War, the first of his two-part biography on Adolf Hitler. In it, Irving tried to describe the war from "Hitler's point of view". He portrayed Hitler as a rational, intelligent politician, whose only goal was to increase Germany's prosperity and influence on the continent. For instance, Irving's book faulted the Allied leaders, most notably Winston Churchill, for the eventual escalation of war, and claimed that the German invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941 was a "preventative war" forced on Hitler to avert an impending Soviet attack (supported by some, notably Soviet GRU defector Victor Suvorov, and others, see Icebreaker). He also claimed that Hitler had no knowledge of the Holocaust; while not denying its occurrence, Irving claimed that Heinrich Himmler and his deputy Reinhard Heydrich were its originators and architects. Irving made much of the lack of any written order from Hitler ordering the Holocaust, and for decades afterward as a publicity stunt offered to pay £1000 to anyone who could find such an order. In addition, citing the work of such historians as Harry Elmer Barnes, David Hoggan, and Frederick J.P. Veale, Irving argued that it was primarily Britain that was responsible for the outbreak of war in 1939.

 

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/david+irving

 

Please, please, please go and read an encylpedia.

Lol, actually he never said the holocaust never happened but that Hitler didnt know about it.

 

In 1977, Irving published Hitler's War, the first of his two-part biography on Adolf Hitler. In it, Irving tried to describe the war from "Hitler's point of view". He portrayed Hitler as a rational, intelligent politician, whose only goal was to increase Germany's prosperity and influence on the continent. For instance, Irving's book faulted the Allied leaders, most notably Winston Churchill, for the eventual escalation of war, and claimed that the German invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941 was a "preventative war" forced on Hitler to avert an impending Soviet attack (supported by some, notably Soviet GRU defector Victor Suvorov, and others, see Icebreaker). He also claimed that Hitler had no knowledge of the Holocaust; while not denying its occurrence, Irving claimed that Heinrich Himmler and his deputy Reinhard Heydrich were its originators and architects. Irving made much of the lack of any written order from Hitler ordering the Holocaust, and for decades afterward as a publicity stunt offered to pay £1000 to anyone who could find such an order. In addition, citing the work of such historians as Harry Elmer Barnes, David Hoggan, and Frederick J.P. Veale, Irving argued that it was primarily Britain that was responsible for the outbreak of war in 1939.

 

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/david+irving

 

Please, please, please go and read an encylpedia.

 

 

Ha,so Hitler's officers killed more than 11 millions and he didn't note that,are you fool me?

 

 

so,if I said you told the truth,so why they jailed him? is that for wrong statment he said

11 million?? where did you get that from?

 

Please, please, please go and read what Wiki says about the holocaust. Then come back.

What is the number of victims of the Holocaust?:rolleyes:

Around six million is the accepted figure.

Around six million is the accepted figure.

 

wow:dozey:

 

Every time you guys prove to me that you don't know anything

 

6 Millions for only the Jews and 5 millions for the disabled,black,homosexual,jehovah's witnesses and communists

 

;)

others says that they are 26 millions

wow:dozey:

 

Every time you guys prove to me that you don't know anything

 

6 Millions for only the Jews and 5 millions for the disabled,black,homosexual,jehovah's witnesses and communists

 

;)

...as well as phycho-analysts! Sounds crazy, but it's true. Sigmund Freud and his family had to flee Austria because Hitler thought the profession was witch-craft. Just some useless trivia for you.

 

Has anyone mentioned 'Mein Kamph' in this thread yet?

We were talking about Jews,

 

# 5.1–6.0 million Jews, including 3.0–3.5 million Polish Jews[8]

# 1.8 –1.9 million non-Jewish Poles (includes all those killed in executions or those that died in prisons, labor, and concentration camps, as well as civilians killed in the 1939 invasion and the 1944 Warsaw Uprising)[9]

# 500,000–1.2 million Serbs killed by Croat Nazis

# 200,000–800,000 Roma & Sinti

# 200,000–300,000 people with disabilities

# 80,000–200,000 Freemasons [10]

# 100,000 communists

# 10,000–25,000 homosexual men

# 2,500-5,000 Jehovah's Witnesses

 

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/holocaust

 

 

Please read it. -How could anyone claim with a straight face that the Holocaust never happened? It makes about as much sense as claiming that the Rape of Nanking never happened, or defending Creationism.

others says that they are 26 millions

 

Those others are?

We were talking about Jews,

 

# 5.1–6.0 million Jews, including 3.0–3.5 million Polish Jews[8]

# 1.8 –1.9 million non-Jewish Poles (includes all those killed in executions or those that died in prisons, labor, and concentration camps, as well as civilians killed in the 1939 invasion and the 1944 Warsaw Uprising)[9]

# 500,000–1.2 million Serbs killed by Croat Nazis

# 200,000–800,000 Roma & Sinti

# 200,000–300,000 people with disabilities

# 80,000–200,000 Freemasons [10]

# 100,000 communists

# 10,000–25,000 homosexual men

# 2,500-5,000 Jehovah's Witnesses

 

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/holocaust

 

 

Please read it. -How could anyone claim with a straight face that the Holocaust never happened? It makes about as much sense as claiming that the Rape of Nanking never happened, or defending Creationism.

 

AGREED!!!!!!!