I believed TANGIBLE evidence, in rare cases it is wrong. Nothing foolish about following logic and evidence. What is a foolish if believe in one persons hear say and then not understanding what a hypocrite is.:laugh3:

 

Please explain to me how im a hypocrite? i dont think you even know that word

 

for me to be one on this issue, i'd have to have taken just bush's word as fact, but i took many nations intelligence agencies words along with many pictures....pictures are TANGIBLE. So i didnt do what you did at all. I believed tangible evidence as you believed one guys hearsay.

 

So if you did understand what a hypocrite is, you'd shut up.

 

So you took one dudes word as fact, where i took hundreds of people who had tangible evidence as fact....not even in the same ball park you fucking moron:laugh3: :dozey:

 

You will say anything to justify your actions/decisions (just like the government), and also just like people in power, you will never admit you're wrong.;)

In fact, they way you go on about things, I'm surprised you're not IN the government. You'd fit in well!!:laugh3:

I think you'd make an excellent "government spokesperson"!!:rolleyes:

You will say anything to justify your actions/decisions (just like the government), and also just like people in power, you will never admit you're wrong.;)

In fact, they way you go on about things, I'm surprised you're not IN the government. You'd fit in well!!:laugh3:

I think you'd make an excellent "government spokesperson"!!:rolleyes:

 

Im not justifying my actions, but showing the logic of them. you relied on one mans hear say, at the very least i rely on many experts views based on evidence. I do so in everything i believe, you should try it.

 

I have admited i was wrong. You will not admit you are wrong though

 

I dont like the government, your ignorance thinks one must either despise the government or be in bed with it. You are a moron.

 

Just to let you know the world's not black and white.......;)

Im not justifying my actions' date=' but showing the logic of them. you relied on one mans hear say, at the very least i rely on many experts views based on evidence. [/quote']

 

Which just goes to show that there is no advantage to your "system", as all your so-called "evidence" turned out to be fabricated hogwash.;)

The government loves people like you, because you will believe anything you're fed!!:laugh3:

 

I do so in everything i believe' date=' you should try it.[/quote']

 

Judging by the poor results, I think I'll pass, thanks!!;) My gut instincts appear to be far more successful than your system based on "trumped-up" evidence and spin.:rolleyes:

 

I have admited i was wrong. You will not admit you are wrong though

 

I dont like the government, your ignorance thinks one must either despise the government or be in bed with it. You are a moron.

 

No - you are for apparently believing the government spin.:rolleyes:

 

Just to let you know the world's not black and white.......;)

 

Try telling Wacko Jacko that!!:laugh3:

Which just goes to show that there is no advantage to your "system", as all your so-called "evidence" turned out to be fabricated hogwash.

The government loves people like you, because you will believe anything you're fed!!

 

Because the majority of the time hearsay rumors are false, as when based on evidence are facts are most the time right.

 

I dont believe anything im fed, like you, i only believe things with evidence or facts. where it comes from is immaterial to if its true or not, to find it out you have to look at facts and or evidence not just what ONE person says.

 

Judging by the poor results, I think I'll pass, thanks!! My gut instincts appear to be far more successful than your system based on "trumped-up" evidence and spin.

 

Poor results? it was one time, you cannot come to a conclusion based on one result, You're and idiot, you base your info on hearsay and conclusions based on one time events.

 

No - you are for apparently believing the government spin

 

as apposed to you believing a lying persons spin? not any better. Yet my spin had evidence ot back it, unlike your one person's hearsay. Ill take EVIDENCE and the words of experts from many different fields and nations over what ONE person says. BECAUSE the MAJORITY not all but majority of time it will be correct, except for RARE occasions

Because the majority of the time hearsay rumors are false' date=' as when based on evidence are facts are most the time right.[/quote']

 

That's a sweeping statement you couldn't possibly substantiate.;)

 

I dont believe anything im fed' date=' like you, i only believe things with evidence or facts. where it comes from is immaterial to if its true or not, to find it out you have to look at facts and or evidence not just what ONE person says.[/quote']

 

I'd much rather believe something uncovered by an investigative reporter (e.g. "Watergate") than anything put out by government sources. It SHOULD be important to you where this "evidence" comes from, as otherwise you will just end up being duped all the time.;)

 

 

 

Poor results? it was one time' date=' you cannot come to a conclusion based on one result, You're and idiot, you base your info on hearsay and conclusions based on one time events.[/quote']

 

Well YOU are making generalisations based on misleading government propaganda. So go figure.;)

 

 

 

as apposed to you believing a lying persons spin? not any better. Yet my spin had evidence ot back it' date=' unlike your one person's hearsay. Ill take EVIDENCE and the words of experts from many different fields and nations over what ONE person says.[/quote']

 

What you don't seem to understand is that it only APPEARS that the evidence is emanating from various sources, when in fact it's all coming from ONE.;)

 

BECAUSE the MAJORITY not all but majority of time it will be correct' date=' except for RARE occasions[/quote']

 

You can believe that, but it's impossible for you to substantiate it. On recent evidence, I would suggest it's actually the other way round.;)

I'd much rather believe something uncovered by an investigative reporter (e.g. "Watergate") than anything put out by government sources. It SHOULD be important to you where this "evidence" comes from, as otherwise you will just end up being duped all the time

 

Those people are just as bad as the government, they are baised and just as likely to lie. so why trust one devil but not another? utter stupidity

 

 

Well YOU are making generalisations based on misleading government propaganda. So go figure

 

VS you believing non government propaganda? no matter where it comes from its not any different. As where i believed hard evidence you believed hearsay propaganda...so you're guilty of believing propaganda that was not based on evidence as where atleast i believed hard tangible evidence. you are not interested in the truth, just believing what fits your personal views. Too many people like you in this world, the truth depends on if you like it.

 

 

You can believe that, but it's impossible for you to substantiate it. On recent evidence, I would suggest it's actually the other way round

 

You are an idiot! you base your views on ONE case.....wow you dont deserve to talk.

Those people are just as bad as the government, they are baised and just as likely to lie. so why trust one devil but not another? utter stupidity

 

 

 

 

VS you believing non government propaganda? no matter where it comes from its not any different. As where i believed hard evidence you believed hearsay propaganda...so you're guilty of believing propaganda that was not based on evidence as where atleast i believed hard tangible evidence. you are not interested in the truth, just believing what fits your personal views. Too many people like you in this world, the truth depends on if you like it.

 

 

 

 

You are an idiot! you base your views on ONE case.....wow you dont deserve to talk.

 

I'm afraid it appears you've allowed yourself to be brainwashed by the government propaganda machine. Very sad indeed!!:rolleyes:

I'm afraid it appears you've allowed yourself to be brainwashed by the government propaganda machine. Very sad indeed!!:rolleyes:

 

Really? is that all you can say? you've been brainwashed by the anti government propaganda machine....:laugh3: how is that any different? you believe propaganda based on mere words, atleast i follow facts.

 

PS i dont believe what anyone says without evidence, maybe facts and evidence to are stupid, but anyone with intelligence, you're just a idiot.:\

You act as if the government is always wrong, i act as if it depends on the facts and evidence. Thats why you're an idiot.

"I follow facts and evidence" - jesus, will you ever shut up with this?!?!

 

We all supply information which has to be considered.

 

Why are you so unique that when you provide information it is evidence and others info isn't? You never make an attempt to explain that.

 

Your FACTS and EVIDENCE moaning is plain stupid because you never supply them.

 

You also just say that everybody elses evidence is infact NOT evidence, and this is generally.......I don't understand you.

 

I know you don't like me saying this but I'm going to say it anyway.....You really need to grow up in this respect because your arguments aren't good, trust me.

"I follow facts and evidence" - jesus, will you ever shut up with this?!?!

 

We all supply information which has to be considered.

 

Why are you so unique that when you provide information it is evidence and others info isn't? You never make an attempt to explain that.

 

Your FACTS and EVIDENCE moaning is plain stupid because you never supply them.

 

You also just say that everybody elses evidence is infact NOT evidence, and this is generally.......I don't understand you.

 

I know you don't like me saying this but I'm going to say it anyway.....You really need to grow up in this respect because your arguments aren't good, trust me.

 

I agree. That's what I've been trying to point out all along. It seems to be a waste of time, though, unfortunately................................. :rolleyes:

Plus he finds it necessary to keep resorting to childish "name-calling"!!;)

"I follow facts and evidence" - jesus, will you ever shut up with this?!?!

 

We all supply information which has to be considered.

 

Why are you so unique that when you provide information it is evidence and others info isn't? You never make an attempt to explain that.

 

Your FACTS and EVIDENCE moaning is plain stupid because you never supply them.

 

You also just say that everybody elses evidence is infact NOT evidence, and this is generally.......I don't understand you.

 

I know you don't like me saying this but I'm going to say it anyway.....You really need to grow up in this respect because your arguments aren't good, trust me.

 

You go by hearsay and theories not facts or evidence...piss off.

 

I provide evidence or facts with my view point, you provide theories...:laugh3:

 

No, many people on here provide evidence, you provide theories and Mark provides hearsay as evidence from one person as far as others they provide evidence to their side, try to atleast do the same. Dont use theories that have no basis in reality or facts or evidence, and Mark try to use something besides one guys hearsay to prove guilt. Evidence and fact do not always prove one side to be right, its about how you view the facts and evidence, but using hearsay is just bullshit.

 

So for the majority people on here provide evidence but how the view the evidence and or facts is different from me but atleast mostly they know alot of facts and have evidence.

 

My arguement is based on either hard facts or evidence, it is how you choose to see those that changes your view, as where you rely on theories. Thats the difference i say facts and evidence and try to show my viewpoint of them, but how one views it changes. BUT i atleast have some facts and evidence, thats sadly more then what i can say about your or Marky.l

 

If you rely on theories or one persons hearsay for fact then you're a moron.

I agree. That's what I've been trying to point out all along. It seems to be a waste of time, though, unfortunately................................. :rolleyes:

Plus he finds it necessary to keep resorting to childish "name-calling"!!;)

 

So name calling is childish but believing a rumor by one person with no facts is not? you're messed up

You go by hearsay and theories not facts or evidence...piss off.

 

I provide evidence or facts with my view point, you provide theories...:laugh3:

 

No, many people on here provide evidence, you provide theories and Mark provides hearsay as evidence from one person as far as others they provide evidence to their side, try to atleast do the same. Dont use theories that have no basis in reality or facts or evidence, and Mark try to use something besides one guys hearsay to prove guilt. Evidence and fact do not always prove one side to be right, its about how you view the facts and evidence, but using hearsay is just bullshit.

 

So for the majority people on here provide evidence but how the view the evidence and or facts is different from me but atleast mostly they know alot of facts and have evidence.

 

My arguement is based on either hard facts or evidence, it is how you choose to see those that changes your view, as where you rely on theories. Thats the difference i say facts and evidence and try to show my viewpoint of them, but how one views it changes. BUT i atleast have some facts and evidence, thats sadly more then what i can say about your or Marky.l

 

If you rely on theories or one persons hearsay for fact then you're a moron.

 

Are you "Arnie" in disguise? Have you been possessed by him or something? Because you sure as hell SOUND like him!!

HE used to just keep repeating the same things, too!!:P

So name calling is childish but believing a rumor by one person with no facts is not? you're messed up

 

Well the fact is, that the so-called "facts" are only facts in your microcosmic world, so in actual fact, they count for "jack". How's that for a fact??:rolleyes:

Well the fact is' date=' that the so-called "facts" are only facts in [i']your [/i]microcosmic world, so in actual fact, they count for "jack". How's that for a fact??:rolleyes:

 

You can try to reason with yourself and say the facts you dont like really arent facts or that they do not count. But you're just fooling yourself.:\

 

You can reason yourself into believing anything, hell you could convince yourself the world isnt round but thats what idiots do they only believe facts they like. You only see what you WANT to see based on your views. truly sad

Are you "Arnie" in disguise? Have you been possessed by him or something? Because you sure as hell SOUND like him!!

HE used to just keep repeating the same things, too!!:P

 

Either you're a child or your mind is, so i have to do what most people do when talking to them, repeat it many times for it to sink in. One day you may grow up and realize even if you dont like it, that does not mean its not true.

You can try to reason with yourself and say the facts you dont like really arent facts or that they do not count. But you're just fooling yourself.:\

 

You can reason yourself into believing anything, hell you could convince yourself the world isnt round but thats what idiots do they only believe facts they like. You only see what you WANT to see based on your views. truly sad

 

You have a serious "de facto" problem, man!!:rolleyes:

Either you're a child or your mind is' date=' so i have to do what most people do when talking to them, repeat it many times for it to sink in. One day you [b']may [/b]grow up and realize even if you dont like it, that does not mean its not true.

 

Now you sound just like a communist regime!! I'm surprised you haven't moved to North Korea!!:rolleyes:

You have a serious "de facto" problem' date=' man!!:rolleyes:[/quote']

 

Yeah believing in the truth even if I dont like it....HUGE problem:dozey: :rolleyes:

 

The German people had to do that after ww2, and some people (maldini) still only accept what they like to be true

Now you sound just like a communist regime!! I'm surprised you haven't moved to North Korea!!:rolleyes:

 

Really communist care about the truth! man you dont even know what communism is, how sad. You need to learn what you're talking about BEFORE you talk.

 

PS a communist would make up facts or belieive any facts that fit his views....like you

Yeah believing in the truth even if I dont like it....HUGE problem:dozey: :rolleyes:

 

The German people had to do that after ww2, and some people (maldini) still only accept what they like to be true

 

The trouble is, you're no different!!:rolleyes:

Really communist care about the truth! man you dont even know what communism is, how sad. You need to learn what you're talking about BEFORE you talk.

 

PS a communist would make up facts or belieive any facts that fit his views....like you

 

Have you got a little red book, by any chance??:rolleyes:

The trouble is' date=' you're no different!!:rolleyes:[/quote']

 

Ha. I believe a fact even when it does not fit my view. the wmd was a prime example of this.

Have you got a little red book' date=' by any chance??:rolleyes:[/quote']

 

Nope, how's the goose stepping going?