December 15, 200817 yr Haha, true!!! Hmmmmmm, I dunno! Ok, I guess anything for Coldplay!! C'mon daniel you have to do it too!!!
December 15, 200817 yr That's right! Since that's the label someone else pasted on us, it's just gotta be true!:laugh3:
December 15, 200817 yr Well even the Flintstones used to sing about having a "gay old time", so maybe they were Coldplay fans, too!:rolleyes:
December 15, 200817 yr :laugh3: So why havent you changed your mood mc?? I wasn't in the mood..................................... :rolleyes:
December 16, 200817 yr Hahaha!!! You and your jokes man!!! You have the greatest comebacks for everything!!!
December 16, 200817 yr Hahaha!!! You and your jokes man!!! You have the greatest comebacks for everything!!! :smug::rolleyes:
December 16, 200817 yr Its because you are English. Every single English person I have met has been hilarious, seriously.
December 16, 200817 yr Its because you are English. Every single English person I have met has been hilarious, seriously. :D
December 16, 200817 yr Hmm I'm not really sure I want to waste my first ever post on this board on this, but chuck kottke seriously? Do you realize what you just posted? You go on about how Republicans don't accept anyone unlike themselves or are scared of the "three G's" as you put it, but aren't you using the same prejudice against all Republicans? Am I, as a republican, automatically labeled as someone who hates gay people? and here I thought I was more open minded...Think before you generalize please. :) Oh, and I agree Jslayers all the English people I have ever met have especially good senses of humor...
December 16, 200817 yr Alright then - I'll make some exceptions.:laugh3: But I've had a few "experiences" with the nasty intolerant types in my neck of the woods - and believe me, they are rough characters up here - a dark, brooding bunch, plus a history of cross burnings. It's what makes me say the things I do! But do you, as a Republican, accept gay people?? Let me tell ya, the Republicans here sure don't!:stunned: I'm glad to hear that you are a progressive in the party - bringing the party back to it's progressive roots (LaFollet's, Roosevelt's, Lincolns) - I've read Theodore Roosevelt's letters, and those are the kind of Republicans I like!
December 16, 200817 yr :uhoh: Can I stop any sort of argument here before it even begins? There's been too much fighting here lately, what with that douche bag Coldplaygiarism...
December 16, 200817 yr Why did we get pegged for the gay label in the first place?:laugh3: Some director have an out for Coldplay, or just because their music has a strong degree of sensitivity? I like the Black Crows - they've got good music - so what gives with this whole thing? :confused:
December 16, 200817 yr *tries to figure out how being flushed down a toilet fits into the equation* :P PS- there's an exams thread?! *sprints to thread*
December 16, 200817 yr Alright then - I'll make some exceptions.:laugh3: But I've had a few "experiences" with the nasty intolerant types in my neck of the woods - and believe me, they are rough characters up here - a dark, brooding bunch, plus a history of cross burnings. It's what makes me say the things I do! But do you, as a Republican, accept gay people?? Let me tell ya, the Republicans here sure don't!:stunned: While I don't necessarily consider myself a full-blown republican, I much prefer that party and can safely say that myself, and almost everyone I know are very acceptant of gays. Considering that nearly half of the U.S. votes republican, it's a pretty broad population to stereotype. It's like me calling all democrats red-paint throwing, environmental whacko liberals. It would be much more correct to criticize homophobes, or "intolerant" people in general, because, believe it or not, not all democrats accept gays either. I'm glad to hear that you are a progressive in the party - bringing the party back to it's progressive roots (LaFollet's, Roosevelt's, Lincolns) - I've read Theodore Roosevelt's letters, and those are the kind of Republicans I like! Well, while the early 20th century progressives were a huge step in the right direction, by today's standards they would still be quite bigoted as they didn't push at all for african-american rights because of the tremendous racism of the period.
December 16, 200817 yr In the spirit of progressivism, the early 20th century Republicans were willing to take chances, and move the issues of greater equality and justice ahead! In that sense is what I'm referring to. But to look at the rhetoric used during the 2008 Presidential election, there's no doubt in my mind of at least the use of lingering racism, McCarthyism, and even some homophobia to sell the message to a certain part of the Republican base. If we were to be truthful, instead of defining marriage at all as a legal entity, leave the term up to any religious affiliation that includes the marriage ritual(s), and simply define any loving relationship where people care for one-another as a partnership or care-giver relationship. That takes the term out of the political realm (separation of church and state), puts it into the religious realm, and affords a broader definition so a tax break can be given for any number of arrangements where children are being cared for, or where the elderly are being cared for, etc. by those who are willing to be selfless in their devotion to another, and thus benefit society. I have experienced enough decidedly unfair treatment here by Republicans in positions, to have a basis for my opinion. True, this is where I live, and so it does not represent the whole of the country; but it has left an impression. I have heard the racist comments, and the anti-environment stances from them. So if the Republican party is so accepting of gays, then why all the harsh rhetoric and biblical "Sodom and Gomorrah" being used to excoriate gays in the country? Why the attempts to remove them from the military? There is a religious extreme element that generally votes republican and comprises a power block within the republican party, albeit they are becoming more and more marginalized, as I see it. While there are tolerant members within the party, It remains to be seen whether they will prevail.
December 16, 200817 yr Outside of his foreign interventionist wars (which were completely wrong), Theodore Roosevelt was an admirable human being who believed and practiced justice; LaFollets were a family that held progressive beliefs, and improved the economic fairness for working class Americans, and today would be champions of fair-trade. And Lincoln goes without saying. Those are the Republicans who really made a difference.
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