Arazmire Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I figured this was threadworthy :D Anyway, The 3rd and last US presidential debate between John Mccain and Barack Obama comes on tonight at 9:00 PM ET on CNN Discuss your views on the candidates and what they are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Huge waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonSportsTD Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 yesss i am excited for this. i love the debates. i won't be able to talk about it here though because i am watching it at a friends house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 McCain's going to do so bad again tonight. He's a horrible politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arazmire Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 McCain's going to do so bad again tonight. He's a horrible politician. Well said, I'm not saying Obama is a great one, but I think its pretty clear he is the better of the two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 MrCool, (I still don't know your real name) you should enjoy these debates because it's a historical curiosity. Right now it's like watching a slow-motion trainwreck. I can't help but watch. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Better politician, but both are equally as bad on the issue's. As far as politicians go, Obama is up there with Clinton, brilliant politicians. But both parties, and both candidates are enemies of the people of this nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 MrCool, (I still don't know your real name) you should enjoy these debates because it's a historical curiosity. Right now it's like watching a slow-motion trainwreck. I can't help but watch. ;) I'm Nick. I'm going to watch because I'm curious to see what McCain does. He has to know he's going to lose and I want to see if he plays dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck kottke Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 McCain's going home to Arizona. Now if only we can get Obama to make good on his honeymoon promises, we might get somewhere!;) I'm putting the bug in my Senator's ear as soon as I can to keep up the pressure for real reform. Let's see if Obama plays it safe since he's up by two touchdowns, or if he tries for a lateral reverse, and catches McCain off guard.:laugh3: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 It's remarkable to me that McCain can't bring himself to call a spade a spade. Obama is a socialist. I suppose such an accusation might be considered overarching or crude, but the primary reason he can't make it is the fact that he's also a socialist. McCain is a victim of his own lack of principles. EDIT: Obama repeats the lie that taxpayers will "make their money back" on the $700 billion bailout bill. EDIT: McCain makes the similar claim that a Great Depression era government program bought mortgages and that "we need to increase home values". Sorry Senator, you can't increase value. All you've got is a printing press. EDIT: Obama calls a spending freeze a "hatchet". Notice it's not an actual cut, just a freeze on the increase in spending. Remarkably Orwellian misuse of the English language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arazmire Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Is anyone else watching it on cnn? Noticed how much women like obama more than mccain? o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I noticed that too. Obama speaks and the women love it, and most of the time the men don't and vice versa when McCain speaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 McCain's going home to Arizona. Now if only we can get Obama to make good on his honeymoon promises, we might get somewhere!;) I'm putting the bug in my Senator's ear as soon as I can to keep up the pressure for real reform. Let's see if Obama plays it safe since he's up by two touchdowns, or if he tries for a lateral reverse, and catches McCain off guard.:laugh3: You still don't get it. People thought the same thing of Bush, of Stalin, of Hitler.... You don't understand greed, corruption and corporate socialism. The fact you just said that, show's you know nothing of reform, of anti corruption and of change. We can't get change when Obama is friends and financed by Rich corporate socialist. When the problem is his party as a whole and the other party as a whole. One corrupt man, cannot but mostly WILL NOT fight for change or anti corruption or reform. Foolish thinking. He was bought by the highest bidder, and the highest bidder bought McCain too. Do you not pay attention to his history? His friends? His policies? You seem to have just listened to what he's said in the last few months. Something that ignorant, how can we listen to this talk of change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 It's remarkable to me that McCain can't bring himself to call a spade a spade. Obama is a socialist. I suppose such an accusation might be considered overarching or crude, but the primary reason he can't make it is the fact that he's also a socialist. McCain is a victim of his own lack of principles. EDIT: Obama repeats the lie that taxpayers will "make their money back" on the $700 billion bailout bill. EDIT: McCain makes the similar claim that a Great Depression era government program bought mortgages and that "we need to increase home values". Sorry Senator, you can't increase value. All you've got is a printing press. EDIT: Obama calls a spending freeze a "hatchet". Notice it's not an actual cut, just a freeze on the increase in spending. Remarkably Orwellian misuse of the English language. Both are corporate socialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Line of the night goes to Obama: "No longer will we borrow $700 billion from China and send it to Saudi Arabia... it's mortgaging our childrens' future." :laugh3: But it's A-OK to borrow $700 billion from China to prop-up the price of mortgages? Maybe that was a Freudian slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Still think both should be brought up on charges of treason along with all of congress and Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Now Obama is saying we shouldn't view students as interest groups. Subsidizing students to go to college is what makes college expensive in the first place. Get rid of the government subsidies, and force the colleges to drop their tuition. You think the housing bubble was big? Wait till you see the higher education bubble burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 You're saying the college bubble will be bigger and worse then th housing bubble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 You're saying the college bubble will be bigger and worse then th housing bubble? Well I think as a percentage of spending, college will decline the most of any consumer discretionary spending over the next ten years. Right now college is so insanely expensive that financial advisers actually have to convince people who JUST graduated school that they've got to start saving up for their unborn children's college education! The prestige of a university degree is becoming diluted as more and more Americans have them. And government subsidization is inflating the price for everyone, especially the "luxury" college market (private schools). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 All the focus groups following the debate seemed to think Obama won it, which is surprising to me because I thought McCain was the clear winner. But then again maybe I've underestimated the stupidity of "undecided" voters. Americans want bigger government, and they will have bigger government. We're in for a wild ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I don't see how you can support McCain either. First of all they're both the same, they'll do the same things, just talk differently. Secondly the only real choice is 3rd party. I really don't care who gets elected out of the 2 because nothing will be that different, just age and the way they speak. It really doesn't matter who won the debate, were all losers in the end because of them.(except corrupt politicians and businessmen.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Well I don't support McCain at all, in fact I'd be pretty happy to see Obama win if for nothing more than to see the Republican party reconsider Ron Paul's message. Objectively speaking though, McCain's STATED policies would probably slow the growth of government somewhat. But I have to remind myself that he's a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 One thing that really pisses me off is people calling Barack a terrorist. I think he's a enemy of our nation, but so is McCain. But they're only calling him a terrorist because his father is a non white muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck kottke Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Well, it's just a ploy to create fear and doubt and anger in the minds of certain voters. Personally they should just ban any ads that are misleading and cause defamation of any candidate. But I was disappointed that neither of them brought that up - they refused to address the underlying problem of misleading messages, and the money that gets used to try those tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A RUSH OF VIDA Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Im watching right now!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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