busybeeburns Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 US 'hate list' DJ to sue Britain [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXejTWxV9mk]YouTube - Michael Savage Banned From The U.K!!![/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwJPQUlkQCw]YouTube - US Radio DJ Michael Savage" Your Banned".[/ame] A US radio talk show host says he will sue the British government for defamation after being placed on a list of people banned from entering the UK. Conservative political commentator Michael Savage, real name Michael Alan Weiner, is one of 22 people barred for fostering extremism or hate. He has described the Islamic holy book the Koran as "a book of hate" and questioned cases of autism. Mr Weiner said he opposed violence and objected to being linked to murderers. He told his radio audience that he was intending to sue British Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, who he described as the "lunatic ... Home Secretary of England". "To link me up with skinheads who are killing people in Russia, to put me in league with Hamas murderers who kill people on buses is defamation," he said. In an article posted on his website, he said he did not advocate violence but "traditional values". He wrote: "What does that say about the government of England? It says more about them than it says about me." Lawyers say it would be difficult for Mr Weiner to bring an action for defamation given that the list was issued with the authority of the British government. They note that English law recognises that there are cases when there is a legitimate and public interest in information being made widely available, and that unless the government acted out of improper motives for placing him on the list, any libel claim is unlikely to get very far. Mr Weiner has offended many in the US with his views on immigration, Islam and rape. He also angered the parents of children with autism by saying most cases were "a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out", the Associated Press reported. The UK has been able to ban people who promote hatred, terrorist violence or serious criminal activity since 2005, but the list was only made public for the first time this week. Hamas MP Yunis Al-Astal and Jewish extremist Mike Guzovsky are among the 16 named people by the Home Office as being excluded. Also excluded are two leaders of a violent Russian skinhead gang, the ex-Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard Stephen 'Don' Black and neo-Nazi Erich Gliebe. The remaining six have not been named, as doing so would not be in the public interest, the government said. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8035114.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Jacqui Smith is a right old idiot at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnspieler1012 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 wtf? how disgusting! They're just kicking out people that they disagree with? incredible. I can understand Fred Phelps, but what the hell has Michael Savage done but give his honest opinion? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a radical attack on free speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I know, as soon as this bunch of clowns are out of power the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Michael Savage is an entertainer with an appropriate surname. Why does the government have to wave a gun around whenever things aren't going good for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnicolorGreenEyes Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I know, as soon as this bunch of clowns are out of power the better. Which "bunch of clowns" are you voting for then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Which "bunch of clowns" are you voting for then? Voting, lol. That only works on Simon Cowell produced TV shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnicolorGreenEyes Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Yeah you're right that last election, y'know where that guy won? He totally didn't win cos people voted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Yeah you're right that last election, y'know where that guy won? He totally didn't win cos people voted for him. So because someone "wins" that gives them the right to head an organization that claims the monopoly right to initiate violence if we don't pay it protection money (aka "taxes")? Of course not. The whole idea that winning a vote bestows some special right is not only archaic, it's amoral and childish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnicolorGreenEyes Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 That was not implied in what I was saying at all now was it? I get your point, fear not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 what's stupid about the uk system is that the people vote for the MPs for the house of commons, but before anything becomes law if has to be based by the unelected house of lords. It's like having the Senate full of people which the current leader picks to be in. Labour out, tories in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Parliamentary and Congressional systems don't work. Period. In fact, democracy is a joke. Look at the US Congress's approval rating, and compare it with the re-election rate of the members for evidence. People think that by voting they are doing their duty as citizens, and they look down on non-voters (the majority) as people who couldn't care less about society. This couldn't be further from the truth. Non-voters just want to be left alone, and they aren't interested in imposing their whims on their fellow man. That is infinitely more noble than standing in line and marking a box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnicolorGreenEyes Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 what's stupid about the uk system is that the people vote for the MPs for the house of commons, but before anything becomes law if has to be based by the unelected house of lords. It's like having the Senate full of people which the current leader picks to be in. Labour out, tories in. So you actually want DAVID CAMERON running the country? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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