Matter-Eater Lad Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pdmNynEwYA]YouTube - The Empirical Evidence Against Big Government[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 inb4 4872 people start attacking you without even watching the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 lmao the "Rahn Curve"? If only the monopoly were smaller! Then it would provide better services! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 SHUT THE FUCK UP JAY. JK Like I said we have to do this slowly, show people how smaller government leads to more freedoms and more prosperity and then they'll want to keep reducing government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 lol well I agree with his slide about all the necessary things that drive economic growth (like a stable currency, security, law enforcement, etc). The question for me is how to install these things in a society via market mechanisms. In order for an anarchy to work these services should all "appear" at nearly the same time, which makes the odds unlikely. A privatization of government is the most likely route to anarchism, I would think. But I'm only guessing, I might be wrong... maybe anarchy could rise from the ashes of a collapsed first-world democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 lol well I agree with his slide about all the necessary things that drive economic growth (like a stable currency, security, law enforcement, etc). The question for me is how to install these things in a society via market mechanisms. In order for an anarchy to work these services should all "appear" at nearly the same time, which makes the odds unlikely. A privatization of government is the most likely route to anarchism, I would think. But I'm only guessing, I might be wrong... maybe anarchy could rise from the ashes of a collapsed first-world democracy. I'm afraid that "vacuum effect" would occur in which the new government just comes right in and takes the place of the old one. (With promises of ruling better of course :rolleyes:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 I'm gonna agree with Josh, it has to be a slow movement. A collapse would just cause people to say "we need government to protect us more". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 The question is whether it could establish legitimacy. Governments, in order to gain trust, must have the "letterhead", the "brand", the "Charisma" thang going on. It's why you get a bunch of elites like Jefferson, Washington, etc starting governments in their spare time, while they're not inventing things and growing tobacco/weed on their plantations and chilling with the French aristocracy. If you establish brands for the services, people trust them, and use them. I should write a book on how to start an anarchy, this could make for a good movie/series. I'll need some hot teen love triangles to really make it fly off shelves, though. Robert Pattinson could be the CEO of the garbage collection company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I'm gonna agree with Josh, it has to be a slow movement. A collapse would just cause people to say "we need government to protect us more". A bowel movement, if you will. You don't want explosive diarrhea, but at the same time you can't have it too slow or you'll get constipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 A bowel movement, if you will. You don't want explosive diarrhea, but at the same time you can't have it too slow or you'll get constipated. Ummm ok? Jay do you want to subsidize my trip to SC for the Mises lecture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Shit I forgot about that. When is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 October 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 It's October 3rd I think... Nick, I MIGHT be able to do that, I'll let you know for sure in a week. Josh: Tell your mom to subsidize Nick and Jay's trip to the Mises lecture, please. We'll give her foot massages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Josh: Tell your mom to subsidize Nick and Jay's trip to the Mises lecture, please. I give her foot massages. I like the way you think! I really want to go, its on a saturday, but I have to buy a suit for my campaign, pay 70 dollars on the 28th to my credit card. I'm only getting about 500 a month from work and I need to buy more dress clothes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Same night as the Caps season opener (which I have tickets to). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVfvYiWcA-E]YouTube - Whoops Apocalypse - UK Answer To Unemployment[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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