Hello

I'm new to this forum

 

My subject and I suppose Question is simple:

 

Why does Chris Martin consider Achtung Baby to be a dead album:

 

At Glastonbury Bono was looking for a dedication similar to what Bono did for Coldplay, singing Yellow, but why did Chris decide to write Enter Sandman for their five opening tracks? Does it have any relation to the songs of Achtung Baby or does it have another meaning?

 

Discuss

Didn't quite follow that

ask Chris Martin :blank:

 

 

ps: wrong section

1st paragraph should tell us something:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achtung_Baby

I thought "Enter Sandman" was a Metallica song...? :wtf:

Who's Chris Martin again?

1st paragraph should tell us something:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achtung_Baby

off-topic is to try in place of zookeeper boy and Apocalypso. (Until the End of the World) Easy Zoo station in last paragraph here :thinking:

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um3aQ8UB9HM]Mew - The Zookeeper's Boy - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5fZAKM-Yu8&feature=related]Mew - Apocalypso & Saviours Of Jazz Ballet (Fear Me,December) Live from Copenhagen - YouTube[/ame]

 

 

Bono is credited as the sole lyricist.[49] In contrast to U2's previous records, which frequently made political and social statements, Achtung Baby is more personal and introspective, examining love, sexuality, spirituality, faith, and betrayal.[70][71][72] The lyrics are darker in tone, describing troubled personal relationships and exuding feelings of confusion, loneliness, and inadequacy.[5][73][74] Central to these themes was The Edge's separation from his wife and mother of his three children, which occurred halfway through the album's recording. The pain not only focused him on the record and led him to advocate more personal themes, but it also affected Bono's lyrical contributions.[2][16][75] Bono found inspiration from his own personal life, citing the births of his two daughters in 1989 and 1991 as major influences.[15] This is reflected in "Zoo Station", which opens the album as a statement of intent with lyrics suggesting new anticipations and appetites.[35][56]

 

Of the album's personal nature, Bono said that there were a lot of "blood and guts" in it.[55] His lyrics to the ballad "One" were inspired by the band members' struggling relationships and the German reunification.[76][77] The Edge described the song on one level as a "bitter, twisted, vitriolic conversation between two people who've been through some nasty, heavy stuff".[27] Similarly, "Ultraviolet (Light My Way)" describes a strained relationship and unease over obligations,[78] and on "Acrobat", Bono sings about weakness, hypocrisy, and inadequacy.[79] The torch songs of Roy Orbison, Scott Walker, and Jacques Brel were major influences,[79] demonstrated on tracks such as "Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses", a description of a couple's argument; "So Cruel", about unrequited love, obsession, and possessiveness;[68] and the closing track, "Love Is Blindness", a bleak account of a failing romance.[43][80]

 

U2 biographer Bill Flanagan credits Bono's habit of keeping his lyrics "in flux until the last minute" with providing a narrative coherence to the album.[81] Flanagan interpreted Achtung Baby as using the moon as a metaphor for a dark woman seducing the singer away from his virtuous love, the sun; he is tempted away from domestic life by an exciting nightlife and tests how far he can go before returning home.[82] For Flanagan, "Tryin' to Throw Your Arms Around the World" on the album's latter third describes the character stumbling home in a drunken state, and the final three songs—"Ultraviolet" (Light My Way), "Acrobat", and "Love Is Blindness"—are about how the couple deal with the suffering they have forced on each other.[81]

 

Despite the record's darker themes, many lyrics are more flippant and sexual than those from the band's previous work.[37][65] This reflects the group's revisiting some of the Dadaist characters and stage antics they dabbled with in the late 1970s as teenagers but abandoned for more literal themes in the 1980s.[83] While the band had previously been opposed to materialism, they examined and flirted with this value on the album and the Zoo TV Tour.[70] The title and lyrics of "Even Better Than the Real Thing" are "reflective of the times [the band] were living in, when people were no longer looking for the truth, [they] were all looking for instant gratification".[34] "Trashy" and "throwaway" were among the band's buzzwords during recording, leading to many tracks in this vein. The chorus of "Ultraviolet (Light My Way)" features the pop lyrical cliché "baby, baby, baby",[84] juxtaposed against the dark lyrics in the verses.[78] Bono wrote the lyrics to "The Fly" as the song's eponymous character by composing a sequence of "single-line aphorisms".[63] He called the song "like a crank call from Hell... but [the caller] likes it there".[34]

 

Religious imagery is present throughout the record. "Until the End of the World" is an imagined conversation between Jesus Christ and his betrayer, Judas Iscariot.[34] On "Acrobat", Bono sings about feelings of spiritual alienation in the line "I'd break bread and wine / If there was a church I could receive in".[85] In many tracks, Bono's lyrics about women carry religious connotations, describing them as spirits, life or light,[86] and idols to be worshipped.[87] Religious interpretations of the album are the subject of the book Meditations on Love in the Shadow of the Fall.[88]

Basically; Bono asked Chris Martin for a shout out; so to speak, and Chris Martin likened U2's first five songs from their setlist at glastonbury to Metallics Enter Sandman

 

And if that is so that disproves religion does it not? Especially when Until the End of the World is an imagined conversation between Jesus and Judas, right?

I try to stay away from religion because of the effects but as far as I'm concerned Chris doesnt disapprove any religion. The whole album of Viva la Vida was centered towards religion and the 15th century, a time of monarchy and power, as well as the fall of nations.

If Chris Martin is to be believed of course. He could just be a pyschopath.

Define psychopath :thinking:

Interesting question... something to think about

 

but yet in coldplay's latest video 'Every Teardrop is a Waterfall'

the bassist clearly symbolises UFO.

 

But yet Chris Martin wrote a song called Til Kingdom Come does that render all work up til this latest album nonsense?

 

Or is he playing a Fly like character; basically a Martyr?

....what the frick is this discussion about?

I dont know :confused: I think it's religion related

Interesting question... something to think about

 

but yet in coldplay's latest video 'Every Teardrop is a Waterfall'

the bassist clearly symbolises UFO.

 

But yet Chris Martin wrote a song called Til Kingdom Come does that render all work up til this latest album nonsense?

 

Or is he playing a Fly like character; basically a Martyr?

 

 

sure he does not believe in Jesus, but the joy of Jesus, know maybe by chain

 

In a 2005 Rolling Stone magazine interview, Martin said of his religious views: "I definitely believe in God. How can you look at anything and not be overwhelmed by the miraculousness of it?"[32] In the same interview he spoke of going through a period of spiritual confusion, stating "I went through a weird patch, starting when I was about sixteen to twenty-two, of getting God, religion, superstition, judgement all confused".[32] However, in a 2008 interview he stated

 

"I'm always trying to work out what 'He' or 'She' is. I don't know if it's Allah or Jesus or Mohammed or Zeus. But I'd go for Zeus"[33]

Following the said interview, he released a text message declaring himself an "Alltheist", a word of his invention meaning that he believes in "everything".[3

 

 

but Til Kingdom Come is as Viva la Vida / Gloria & celebration ;)

 

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GyTdo1nGO0]U2 - Gloria - YouTube[/ame]

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBP64ZssRNY&feature=related]U2 - A Celebration - YouTube[/ame]

 

So much fail.

so basically all of his words and his work is nonsense?

Who's Chris Martin again?

 

Norwich City striker. He's good but he's no Luis Suarez.

:stunned:

Say whaaaaaaaaaat?

 

I think the answer you're looking for is 42.

so basically all of his words and his work is nonsense?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFvyTDX3OoM#t=5m46s

 

 

off thread

 

 

everyone wants

 

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe0vfITgZpE&feature=related]It's only Chris Martin from Coldplay... - YouTube[/ame]

Does anyone else thinks it smells like troll in here?

is a question troll here ?

 

Hello

I'm new to this forum

 

My subject and I suppose Question is simple:

 

Why does Chris Martin consider Achtung Baby to be a dead album:

 

At Glastonbury Bono was looking for a dedication similar to what Bono did for Coldplay, singing Yellow, but why did Chris decide to write Enter Sandman for their five opening tracks? Does it have any relation to the songs of Achtung Baby or does it have another meaning?

 

Discuss

Yes, and the following replies in this thread of that person. I'm sorry if I am wrong, but the posts are so incoherent that this is not just a problem of a translator.

theparadox made a question of troll