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The fact remains, theres so many logical reasons why America could not be behind this.

The fact remains under Bush you are trillions in debt. Thats quite a precarious state of affairs to be in.

Who is Ann Coulter?what bit did he quote?

Why stay when you know you stand a chance of being killed? Weve all seen refugees on the telly, should they all stay and defend their homes and risk dying or flee and live? Just seems very hypocritical to me - "My government kills its own citizens yet i'll stay in the country and keep giving them money"

So you believe your government are bloodthirsty bastards who'd kill thousands of their citizens just so they can have an excuse to invade another country? And yet you still live there. Normally when people live in countries where their government are bloodthirsty bastards they tend to flee to another country. And yet your still in America.

No you havent caught them out so many times. theres more theories on 9/11 then stars in the sky. Your theories have been proved wrong by many sources and yet you claim its the government controlling the media - except when it supports what you say. Hypocrite.

Its called Logic Gareth, try using it sometime! Think why arent Americas enemies using this knowledge? They would have a field day to end all field days! Why would America go to all this trouble and then let a few conspirsy nuts on the internet unravel their secret? Surely someone whos killed 3,000 people wont hesitite to kill a few more. The paper trail left behind, the emails, the the memos, everything else gets leaked, but nope nothing to indicate that the government planned it. All youve got is the buildings fell funny, and a possible motive.

To be honest, alot of people are still outraged by the iraq invasion and i think people are only 'outraged' because its cool to be antiwar. You see alot of celebs against it, and naturally like sheep they follow. 9/11 was way to risky for a government to pull off - think of the all the people involved and the potential for something to go wrong. Conspirists mistake government incompetence as proof of wrong doing - Look at americas response to Katrina - they knew it was coming and they till fucked it up. Every scrap of evidence thats proves them wrong is dismissed because 'the government pays them - except when it supports their views. This Alex Jones bloke who predicted 9/11 - he said in June 2001 there would be an immient attack - 3-4 months is not immient. They claim the US needed it to happen to invade Iraq - When the US couldve had an easier time claiming a breech of UN rules and invading anyway. They claim this is all done so america could have the oil fields -They forget America had access to it anyway - UN food for oil, then theres loads and loads of countries in the world that have oil. They nelgect the fact that Bush had an agenda against Iraq going way back into the 90's, they forget the fact that he wasnt doing very well in the polls either - There have been loads of cases where a quick victory has boasted a leaders popularity - Hitler did in 1936, Maggie in 1982 spring to mind.

"Conspiracists don't arrive at their conclusions based on a skeptical and dispassionate evaluation of forensic evidence or expert analysis. Instead, they avidly embrace and utilize any circumstantial evidence that appears to support their favorite theory. They ignore logic." Mmmmm...

Since your too lazy to click a link Irving was arrested by the Austrian police in the southern state of Styria on 11 November 2005, under a warrant issued in 1989. Irving knew that he was banned from Austria, in the words of his partner, Bente Hogh: "He was not jailed just for his views but because he's banned from Austria and still went. David doesn't take advice from anyone. He thought it was a bit of fun, to provoke a little bit."[19]

If you stopped hating Jews, youd realise your wrong.

Its all in that link i gave you. read it

Dont mention that please, I was in London with Gal and i was saying how great it is the people are nicer then you think and theres this bloke having a piss in the middle of Oxford Street. It was disgusting.

She agreed to this How could anyone claim with a straight face that the Holocaust never happened? It makes about as much sense as claiming that the Rape of Nanking never happened, or defending Creationism.

We'd be too drunk to drive. thats if we ever leave the pub.

WHAT??? I never said Hitler didnt know, thats what David Irving said.

Those others are?

We were talking about Jews, # 5.1–6.0 million Jews, including 3.0–3.5 million Polish Jews[8] # 1.8 –1.9 million non-Jewish Poles (includes all those killed in executions or those that died in prisons, labor, and concentration camps, as well as civilians killed in the 1939 invasion and the 1944 Warsaw Uprising)[9] # 500,000–1.2 million Serbs killed by Croat Nazis # 200,000–800,000 Roma & Sinti # 200,000–300,000 people with disabilities # 80,000–200,000 Freemasons [10] # 100,000 communists # 10,000–25,000 homosexual men # 2,500-5,000 Jehovah's Witnesses http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/holocaust Please read it. -How could anyone claim with a straight face that the Holocaust never happened? It makes about as much sense as claiming that the Rape of Nanking never happened, or defending Creationism.

Around six million is the accepted figure.

See if you can guess.

11 million?? where did you get that from? Please, please, please go and read what Wiki says about the holocaust. Then come back.

Just be thankful you dont live in England. Were screwed no matter what. When America sneezes.... Sod your foreign policy, sort your economy out!

Lol, actually he never said the holocaust never happened but that Hitler didnt know about it. In 1977, Irving published Hitler's War, the first of his two-part biography on Adolf Hitler. In it, Irving tried to describe the war from "Hitler's point of view". He portrayed Hitler as a rational, intelligent politician, whose only goal was to increase Germany's prosperity and influence on the continent. For instance, Irving's book faulted the Allied leaders, most notably Winston Churchill, for the eventual escalation of war, and claimed that the German invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941 was a "preventative war" forced on Hitler to avert an impending Soviet attack (supported by some, notably Soviet GRU defector Victor Suvorov, and others, see Icebreaker). He also claimed that Hitler had no knowledge of the Holocaust; while not denying its occurrence, Irving claimed that Heinrich Himmler and his deputy Reinhard Heydrich were its originators and architects. Irving made much of the lack of any written order from Hitler ordering the Holocaust, and for decades afterward as a publicity stunt offered to pay £1000 to anyone who could find such an order. In addition, citing the work of such historians as Harry Elmer Barnes, David Hoggan, and Frederick J.P. Veale, Irving argued that it was primarily Britain that was responsible for the outbreak of war in 1939. http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/david+irving Please, please, please go and read an encylpedia.

http://www.aliensthetruth.com/ The prisonplanet.com of UFO's sightings!

David Irving was never made to confess by force, he changed his mind years ago. And that evidence "in a 1944 communique to Heinrich Himmler, Eichmann estimated that the SS had killed about six million Jews" was a memo written by him in 1944.