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In the sub forum where all the other bands mp3`s go. :rolleyes: Awesome album by the way :D

Oh yeah, cos they haven`t had any hits since then :rolleyes: apart from 3 number one albums, 4 number 1 singles and 6 top 5 singles. Yeah, can really see your point. :rolleyes:

Haven`t seen Pirates, but I understand that whereas Pirates is rip roaring family fun, Superman Returns is more of an intelligent blockbuster, with plenty plenty of moments that provide emotion rather than ooohs and aaahs (although there are a few of them too) much like the story of Superman is supposed to be. Oh, and Kevin Spacy is the best on screen villian bar none, nothing in any Pirates film can compare to Spaceys Luthor, fact!. Can you tell I like this film? :D

Totally disagree with that, I can name at least 4 more action sequences, so it`s full of shit for a start, and seems to not recognise the things that made the original Superman great are in this one too.

I posted it in the other bands MP3 links for anyone that wants it

Pants, too repetitive Why Not? I hope they are, they deserve to be, far to underrated in my opinion.

New album is loads better than Out Of Nothing, I`m loving:- No Use Crying Natures Law Target Sainted I Can`t Come Down The End Is Near This New Day Whereas on Out Of Nothing, the only good ones were really Ashes, Gravity and Glorious Day.

Exactly,the only thing threads like this do is encourage people to argue in the long run, you don`t like some shit, other people do, swings and round-a-bouts, I mean, at the moment, I can`t stand Coldplay, stupid of me to say on a Coldplay forum, especially as I used to be a great fan, but you guys still love them, that doesn`t me right does it? No.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yeah, whatever, it`ll be out this year, one final song has been leaked, along with 2 demo`s, and Slash (who I know isn`t with the band anymore) says it`ll be done this year and it`s great, and that`s a man who can no longer stand Axl, so laugh all ya want :lol:

Guns N Roses - Chinese Democracy

Arctic Monkeys - Mardy Bum

Hell Yeah!

I think you all know what I voted for :lol:

Yep The arctic monkey's album when it is released will prob become the fatest selling debut of all time. Nah, Definatley Maybe will keep that, simply cos the albums already all over the net, records won`t shift that many legally ever again, but it`s a top album, and I`ve got me missus into em too, :) Erm sure about that are we?....Hehe i lerve Arctic monkeys!!!!!!! Dont belive the hype hehe Yes, I hold my hands up to that one, I was utterly wrong :embarrased: but I don`t mind, it`s passed on to a worthy band :lol:

I guess they`re just not everyone`s cup of tea :) , but I think they are seriously the best band since Oasis, and if you`ve seen my previous posts on here, you`ll see that`s high praise indeed coming from me.

Heh, same thing could be said for X & Y :lol: , Anyway, they`ve smashed the record all the way to number 1 this week, so they now hold the record for fastest selling debut album ever in the UK, good on em I say, bout time someone with talent knocked Hear`say from that top spot. As for being the same all the way through, couldn`t disagree with you more, how are tracks like "Riot Van", "Mardy Bum" and "Sun Goes Down" in any way the same as "Ritz To The Rubble" and "Fake Tales Of San Fransisco"? Easily the best album of the year so far, although We Are Scientists album really is the bollocks! :lol:

Erm....you do realise how much it would have to sell in order to be the top selling album in the world don`t you? That has to be the most ridiculous statement I`ve ever heard. Sargeant Peppers by the Beatles is around 4.5 million sales with Morning Glory by Oasis catching it up at 4.2, so you really think with Coldplay selling just over a million of X&Y that they are anywhere near that, no, they are not even top 20 of all time, and the album sales won`t get much better now. Makes a nice change for Coldplay to be snubbed for a change at an awards ceremony, because the general concensus outside of the Coldplay fanbase is that their latest was pants, even though I don`t belive they are the worst band, I voted for the Darkness :lol: At the end of the day, the awards mean naff all anyway, If you like the album and the band, what`s the problem?

To be honest, I`d usually be pissed at something like this, but, Oasis have had this record for what? 12 years, and now that a band has come along that truly deserve it, for the first time since Oasis IMO, I suppose it could be the right time for them to pass down the torch so to speak, and we all know Oasis (or at least Noel) like the band or they wouldn`t have them supporting them in Toronto. Good luck to them I say, I`ll be out buying their album on Monday, but the`ve got a long long way to go before they can be considered anywhere near as good as Oasis in my book, but they are on the right tracks.

The new Oasis album is amazing, and as for rehasing old songs, do you mean theirs or someone else`s, cos if you mean theirs, no two Oasis songs sound the same, and you certainly can`t level that praise at Coldplay, and if you mean someone else`s songs then so what? They give credit where it`s due, usually making whatever riff they`ve takesn sound better in the new song anyway. Why should a best band have to get airplay in the US, it`s not the center of the earth, as much as many of you would like to think it is, and as far saying a band isn`t big unless they are all other american tv is just so arrogant, and would be okay if it was true, they are all over the radio in the UK and TV, and I believe it`s the same in other countries judging by the amount of bootlegs sourced from radio stations in other countries this year. The US as a music scene really has no credibilty with music lovers in this country anyway, so why on earth would a band like Oasis, who apitomise everything British want to "crack" America, and no matter what you believe, breaking the US is all down to who you say yes to and agree with and suck up to, it`s always been that way, Chris Martin played the humble game with the US, that`s how Coldplay cracked it. "Oh, we are not worthy" is something the Gallagher brothers would never lower themselves to in order to sell a few more records, lets face it, they hardly need it. Oh, and Coldplays tour has been nowhere the scale of Oasis, with many nights not filled, and smaller venues. Well, I guess this is a losing battle, I really should know better than to dispute anything Coldplay on a Coldplay forum :rolleyes:

you are an idiot. Cracking the american market is all about sucking some industry wanks dick. It means nothing. Its all about choice. yeah sure whatever. everything that coldplay does that oasis hasn't means nothing. grammys mean nothing. #1 albums in u.s mean nothing. radio/tv play now also mean nothing? it's how an artist gets bigger and gets known! how can it possibly mean nothing! but okay bud! i'm the idiot! :lol: Yes sir, if you believe all that then yes, you are, Like I said beofre, awards are just for the music industry to salp each other on the back, they have no true meaning, you suck dick enough and play the game, ooo here, a Grammy. Why do you think the Gorillaz said they didn`t want to be nomited for a Grammy ever and made the organisers pull them from the shortlists? Like I said before, having an album at number at number is nice, yeah, but it`s not the major be and end all factor, the tour is, that`s what all the hard work boils down to, if your tour doesn`t do well, all the albums sold in the world isn`t going to help, the band see marginal returns from an album, then again Oasis I should imagine see quite a bit more in the UK seeing as Noel has his own record labal :lol: See, as I need to keep repeating myself on the tour issue to people like you, you judge yourself on wether or not your an idiot. :D

The thread was "who is the best", to come to any kind of conclusion you have to take in worldwide status, not just one bit of it. Plus, it was hardly an essay, I was replying in turn to each of your points, I just my explainations across better. I don`t care if Oasis ever crack the US, and to be honest, I`d rather they didn`t, their popularity in UK, Europe and the Far East is very much alive, even more so after this year. Next time you want to make a statement such as "Nobody even remembers them anymore", check your facts, cos that`s why all this started in the first place, you don`t like them, fine, but don`t discount their popularity as a passing fad, that`s what I said at the start when you got on the defensive, I`ve got nothing to deal with, I can take facts at face value without feeling the need to make up excuses as to why that could be. Winning a Grammy really means nothing at the end of the day, just another pointless award from another pointless award ceremony, and yes, I include awards Oasis have won in that. Awards are lumps of metal won by either the band sucking up to record industry insiders to get the award, or by the bands loyal fan base pumping websites or phone lines full of votes. They have no bearing on the quality of the music, nice to win em now and again but..... They mean nothing. So go on not caring, to anything I say, that you don`t want to hear, but because you simply don`t care does not make it wrong.

It's not what I've decided in my mind, it's what I see. There were bad reviews, yet X&Y is still selling magnificently. By the way, If you're the biggest selling artist, most people would say you're on top right now. I don't understand what's so hard to grasp about that. Tour and Singles sales aren't very accounted for, Coldplay isn't a "singles" band and they've said that themselves many times. They're an albums band. That means a lot more (to me) than singles any day of the week. "When did I say sales weren`t important?" You said you didn`t care about ticket sales, and how fast what sold out, which to me, tells me you don`t care about sales. You say tour sales are not accounted for, but they don`t have to be accounted for to tell who has had a better tour, and just because they add venues, doesn`t mean that another venue had a good turnout, all that means is they are adding different venues, nothing more, nothing less, if they had been adding extra nights at the same venues to sold out nights, I`d be impressed. Tell me in your greatest confidince Oasis haven`t beat Coldplay hands down on their respective tours. You seem too be hung up about the US, you tried saying that the rest of the world was the same but they are not, give me the sales figures and I`ll bow to your superior knowledge, Coldplay are big in the US in the UK, so? that`s two countries, what about the rest? Okay, James blunt`s the biggest selling artist in the UK right now.....does that mean he is on top, No, it means he had one good song and ridden the waves onto album success, it was the same for Coldplay this year with their album, people bought it based on their last albums, which I`ll agree, they were good attempts, but as soon as people had had this album a while, they soon realised it was a let down. Again, next year Coldplay`s story will be different. So Coldplay are not a singles band....right, so you don`t think that to be the best and biggest, you`ve got to be all these things, Albums, Tours, Singles etc, that what best and biggest means to me, everything the band do is recognised, anfd again, I can`t speak for the US, I don`t live there, but here in the rest of the world, that`s what matters, and by god Oasis have had an amazing worldwide tour (including massive sold out venues in the states) number 1 albums over the world and number 1 singles over the world. How do you think a band survives, it certainly isn`t through album sales, they get very little of that, it all comes through tours, that`s how they get all the money they need to carry on, where nearly all of their profit comes from, if you look at like this, they release albums to promote tours, not the other way round. The only band who can compete on tour with Oasis are U2, wich is why they will, no matter how poorly U2 singles sell, will always be joint top best with Oasis. So if all Coldplay are is an albums band, then they certainly can`t be the best and biggest. Albums are not the be all and end all of bands, get your head round that, join a band and you tell me what is most important in the end. Oh, and let me tell you this, Arctic Monkeys will be considered the best next year, the music mags are all over them, their debut will sell shitloads, does that mean they are the best, no, it will be the tour that sorts the men from the boys, and I seriously hpoe the do well, if not just to show Coldplay how i`ts done.

It`s no secret Coldplay have had trouble filling many of the venues on this tour, sure, a few, such as the Bolton gig used to film the video to Fix You were sold out, but when compared to Oasis`s tour this year, Coldplay cannot compare. that`s not to say they couldn`t excite the crowd, I don`t mean that at all, I`m sure that, if the end of the Fix You vid is anything to go by, they give a good performance, but when people don`t give Oasis their dues and try to dismiss them as has beens, I feel the need to explain a few things.

Now your a hypocrite, it was YOU that said you didn`t care about sales and concerts etc, you want to make your mind up, you say it doesn`t matter then you come back with the same thing to try and prove your point, you can`t have it both ways, either they matter or they don`t. No, Oasis are in front of Greenday this year in terms of album sales in the UK, and are also in front of U2. Ahhh, but your still on about the US again eh? What are the world sales, post them, cos I`d like to know them if you have them. Also, do you want to look at the overall sales for each band? Look at Oasis`s third album for comparison, sold over 7 million in total, and over 650k in the UK within 3 days, so Coldplay don`t come close to that, and don`t come close to record sales, I mean WTSMG is the second biggest selling album in the world, and is steadily closing on the top spot, I mean, it sold over 900k in the UK alone this year. Coldplay have got a long way to go before they even come close in terms of sales. Coldplay are only up there this year cos of the hype of this album, something that will change with the release of their next one, I think the fact that they haven`t had a number one single yet in the world has alot to say as well. Oh, and you still ahven`t told me why you think Coldplay are the biggest, I`m sorry but "cos the world says" doesn`t cut it, not a reason, I could say that, "cos my dog says" means naff all. Oasis have lost nothing, but seeing as your arguments are all over place, I`m having a hard time trying to put these facts across to you. As of now, Coldplay are the biggest selling artist of albums, but not of singles or tours (which they have trouble selling one gig out, let alone full tours) of which are all included, even the reviews (other than Q and NME) of their new album have been midling, but then again, you probably don`t care about that either when it goes against what you`ve decided in your mind.

Oh Christ On A Bike, were back to this again are we? Your the one lying to yourself you don`t seem to realise that, while your telling us to put our fanboyism aside, you are the one most guilty of it, If ticket sales have nothing to do with it, expain to me how Coldplay are on top? Have they played an equivilent of Knebworth so far in their career? Have they even played the equivilent of Man City stadium this year? Have they had a single this year, that even people who hate them, sit up and listen to whenever it comes on like "The Importance Of Being Idle"? (And don`t say Fix You is that kind of song, because the people I know and work with can`t stand listening to it when it`s played). Even Coldplay`s new album has been met with critiscm by the people who buy music. At work, I`m the oldest person in the stockroom (I`m 27) the others are around 17,18 or in their early 20`s, and we have a CD player, we have never played a Coldplay album yet, but the Oasis albums are getting played quite regular, what does that tell you? Also, the fact that when people who aren`t in their little fan base speak of Coldplay, they always say, "They`ll never write another Yellow" when people talk about Oasis who aren`t in the fan base, they say "They`ll never write another album as good as their first two" say the difference between one song and 2 albums? So please, explain to me how you think Coldplay are on top, seeing how anything we give to you as to why Oasis are best is just met with the great objective argument line "well....I don`t care about that".