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Wow, you just beat me to this post. I bet this is milked for all it's worth in the US.....after all it's 2 and a half weeks until the midterm elections.

People use the word "Biased" here when they really don't know how to. You don't even know what 'biased' is becuase it's always used wrongly.

Most Compelling TV Comment Since Murrow......... ...That's a pretty strong statement, I realize, but Wednesday night's "Special Comment" by MSNBC's Keith Olbermann on the loss of habeas corpus protections lives up to the billing. On his "Countdown" show last night (Oct. 18, 2006), Olbermann delivered an eloquent explanation of why George Bush's signing of the Military Commission Act on Tuesday is such a betrayal of American values. Olbermann's "Special Comment" was well-researched, grounded in more than 200 years of American experiments-gone-bad with restricting rights of people under suspicion in times of alleged foreign dangers, dating back to John Adams' Alien and Sedition Acts. Rather than boring the audience, Olbermann's forays into history added power and depth to his denunciation of Bush's signing of the latest atrocity. Although Olbermann pulled no punches in his attack on Bush, his was not a partisan diatribe. He was not criticizing Bush and praising Democrats. Several of his historical examples -- Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt -- were Democrats who disregarded the sanctity of habeas corpus. No, Olbermann was not speaking as a closet Democrat, as a Fox News commentator would speak as a closet Bush backer while claiming to be fair and balanced. Olbermann was not speaking as someone who coddles terrorists and wants them to "win." Olbermann was speaking as an American who values the freedoms and protections guaranteed by the Constitution and respected -- for the most part -- by previous presidents. And he did it with passion. His most important salvo came at the end when he delivered a warning to Bush: When Bush leaves office in a little over two years and some other person is president, perhaps someone Bush doesn't trust as much as he trusts himself, what will prevent that future president from having Bush himself arrested? Who -- and what -- will protect Bush? And that's what's scary about the measure. Not what Bush will do with it, but some other president whose name and character we don't yet know years hence. Olbermann put his finger on the greatest threat of the measure. And he's just a sports guy at heart. Incredible. Night after night. Watch it and tell your friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ao0RrXHZEk

No, no....go find out it's true. It's all happening and you can find out for yourself.

Stole from Twistedlogics thread. Which is here Good people are exposing the truth about North American Union and the NAFTA Superhighway... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=983780539250313904&q=stan+jones

Oh, shut up...it is news. The news is "Finally, a politician has the balls to stand up to the secret organizations and tell the bloody truth" and there's a video. Anyway, everybody should care about the North American Union. The effects will be felt across the whole globe. PS: twistedlogic I am stealing this video for my North American Union thread ;)

No, no, no.... You've wrote that a few times and now, more than ever, is it completely untrue. And there's no point us going on about it.....we disagree, leave it there.

What? No, if we don't start paying attention we are screwed. Do lots of "cool stuff".....what like go to Alton Towers or something? I know what you mean but it's not what I was addressing.... The whole, overall process that the world society is going through at the moment is absolutely terrifying. There's such a huge pychological effort by the global elilte to mould us into braindead slaves that it's going to be very difficult to wake people up. It's so dark and complexed that we can do without people accepting massive lies from the people who say they are trying to protect us.

It's a fact of life...... ....no wonder we are so screwed.

Hmmm, no comment....;)

And just because they always hide things doesn't make it acceptable or right. That's the problem with alot of people these days....they simple accept that Governments and leaders are lying criminals all the time but are so used to it that they don't even care anymore.....AND IT'S SICK. This is way we are in the terrible state we are in now.

Well, at least you agree on them hiding something.

Well, it's coming out on 9/11. Carry on believing and stating that there's a lack of evidence, think whatever you want. Go on pretending, I really don't care. Saying that there's no evidence or facts is plain dumb. Really, it is absolutely laughable. I hear neo-cons saying the exact same line ALL the time. It's because they can't debate the full issue and simply repeat "there's no evidence".....I'm too clever to be made a fool of. So....here are the side-by-side results of the poll for 2002, 2004 and 2006 (the 2004 poll actually gives results for 3 different polling periods, in late March and early April 2004; for simplicity, I will just use the early April figures, which were taken right around the time of Richard Clarke's testimony to the 9/11 Commission): ____________May 2002___May 2004___Oct 2006 Telling the truth------21%----------24%-----------16% Hiding something----65%----------56%-----------53% Mostly lying-----------8%-----------16%-----------28% Not Sure---------------6%------------4%------------3% So what do these results tell us? Clearly, many Americans - 65% - believed right off the bat in spring 2002 that the government was hiding something. By spring 2004, that figure was reduced almost 10 percent by the 9/11 Commission's dog-and-pony show. The Americans who were only peripherally paying attention to the Commission's work believed that all questions about the attacks were being answered, and so the percentage of Americans who believed the government was telling the truth increased slightly, from 21% to 24%. Interestingly, however, the percentage of people thinking the government was "mostly lying" doubled during that same period. So those paying attention to the facts and the actual substance of the testimony understood that the government was lying and whitewashing the 9/11 attacks. Then by October 2006, the number of Americans who believe the government is mainly lying almost doubled again, to 28%. This is significant for a number of reasons. First, the 9/11 Commission Report has already been out for a long time. Second, the mainstream media has been defending that fairy tell for many years, calling anyone who questioned it a conspiracy nut case and -- as evidenced by Bill O'Reilly's attack on Jim Fetzer -- attempting to intimidate and harass 9/11 truthers. And third, the boys have spent untold amounts of money on psyops operations, likely including paying a bunch of desk-jockies to troll 9/11 truth discussions (such as those held at this site). But still, the poll results show that the truth is winning out against the propaganda. Those who realize the government is lying about 9/11 has steadily risen, despite all of the bullying, disinformation, and "questioning 9/11 is unpatriotic" b.s. that has been spewed from every Orweillian talking box in the land. The polls show that - if we re-double our efforts - we will win.

No, I wasn't. I am mearly saying that the truth always comes out and 9/11 is something that alot of people have a hard time dealing with - but these sort of figures are an indication that the days of the lying scum bags who orchestrated it are over. People have realised that there's so much deception, the criminals have already lost.

I didn't say that. It's it's not a popularity contest, people died.

I know, I was saying 81% + aren't happy with the Governments story on the issue......hiding something is an understatement...:).

Well, actually when 81% + aren't happy with the governments story I think it should be bigger news. (oh and quit with the straw man stuff)

Keep dreaming guys. I don't even need to argue anymore. People have and are finding the truth - and I've already watched that video ages ago on 9.11.2006. People think that popular mechanics did well? They just our right lie. Anyway. "Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying? Telling the truth 16% Hiding something 53% Mostly lying 28% Not sure 3%" Angus Reid Scienific Poll for NY Times/CBS News. Hmmm what a media blackout on this fact.

No, no...he's no Christian. Haha. George Bush a Christian? Give me a break.

More Religious tension.....great isn't it? It's so stupid, like it's all on purpose. Idiots.

I've been saying Bush is using Christians for years. He's a massive phony.

I do, I've talked about it at length with many people. So your not alone.

North Korea Nuke Test Derails Iran Invasion? Has Rummy's madcap dictator arming resulted in a blowback that undermines the Neo-Con war machine? Paul J. Watson | October 9 2006 North Korea's underground atomic weapon test is a wild card that could potentially derail the Neo-Con battle plan to carry out air strikes on Iran. Will the myopic hubris of the Bushists make them blind to the incompatability of selling a war on a nation years away from nukes while another openly proliferates, or could it just make the likelihood of a false flag terror attack more likely? Russia is now saying that the test was far greater than first reported, in the region of 5,000 tons to 15,000 tons of TNT, an upper limit which would put it on a par with the bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945. Reports concerning developments in North Korea's nuclear program are routinely absent the "memory-holed" fact that it was Donald Rumsfeld, former non-executive director of ABB, that signed off on a $200 million dollar contract to sell nuclear reactors to the Stalinist state in November 2000. Has Rumsfeld's wanton act of chaos-mongering resulted in a form of blowback that could eviserate the entire roadmap of his administration? How does the test affect the global and domestic propaganda campaign to justify air strikes on Iran? Mike Rivero over at What Really Happened reckons North Korea has "put the screws," to any US-led invasion. "It will be hard for Bush to sell an invasion of Iran because it might someday make nuclear weapons when North Korea definitely has them now. Bush has to attack North Korea before Iran, and who will support an attack on a nation that actually HAS nuclear weapons of mass destruction." This makes a lone Israeli attack the more likely scenario, but there is no doubt it will be backed by covert US support and a huge domestic distraction. Fox News seemingly welcomed the nuke test as beneficial for the Bush administration in that it was the only story capable of knocking Foleygate off the air. "Never mind the tremendous implications of this -- it's all about GOP politics, all the time, on Fox "News," write News Hounds. The world has been made infinitely more dangerous, due not to the significantly increased danger posed by Kim Jong-il, but because the Bush regime has to go to even greater lengths to sell an attack on a nation ten to fifteen years away from producing the bomb. The Neo-Fascists are more desperate than ever to manufacture a false flag event that can propel Iran back above North Korea in the fear stakes. Watch for the Rovian rhetoric to be shifted from Iran's pursuit of nuclear technology to their alleged support of terrorists in Lebanon and Iraq. Kim-Jong-il may be a mentally unstable lunatic but he's not short of geopolitical nous. He knows that the Bush war machine only targets defenseless tinpot dictators and leaves real members of the nuclear club alone. But his actions have greased the skids for a desperate lunge on the part of the Straussians - the most likely outcome being a huge attack on Jerusalem or Tel Aviv blamed on Iranian backed Hezbollah, providing the Israelis with a UN mandate to retaliate that would stifle the voices of enough critics to ractchet up the armageddon meter one more notch.

Unfortunately that my be ture......but it's not right.