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Bin Laden never admitted it. The video tape is an admitted fraud. Plus you can tell that it's not him in the video. The FBI have even said that they do not have enough evidence to even arrest him over the attacks (he's dead anyway) but on the official 'most wanted' list he isn't even wanted for 9/11. Plus he works for the CIA anyway. A Plausible motive??? The US had the BIGGEST motive and gain the most from the attacks. Since 9/11 the US constitution is being ripped into shreds. The US government has illegally managed to pass "The Patriot Act" and it is taking away basic freedoms from the American people every day. The timing of 9/11 was just too politically convenient. the day before 9/11, Rumsfeld had just confessed that $2.3 trillion was missing from the Department of Defense. Donald Rumsfeld also stated that 9/11 created "the kind of opportunities that World War II offered, to refashion the world." Condoleeza Rice had said the same thing in mind, telling senior members of the National Security Council to "think about 'how do you capitalize on these opportunities' to fundamentally change...the shape of the world." Even the National Security Strategy of the United States of America, issued by the Bush administration in September 2002, said: "The events of September 11, 2001, opened vast, new opportunities." AND a year before 9/11, a document entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses was published by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) - formed by individuals who were members or at least supporters of the Reagan and Bush I administration, some of whom would go on to be central figures in the Bush II administration. These include Richard Armitage, John Bolton, Dick Cheney, Zalmay Khalilzad (closely associated with Paul Wolfowitz), Lewis Libby, Richard Perle, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and James Woolsey. Libby (now Cheney's chief of staff) and Wolfowitz (now Rumsfeld's deputy) are listed as having participated directly in the project to produce Rebuilding America's Defenses. This PNAC document, after bemoaning the fact that spending for military purposes no longer captured as much of the US budget as it once did, argues that it is necessary for defense spending to be greatly increased if the "American peace is to be maintained, and expanded," because this Pax Americana "must have a secure foundation on unquestioned U.S. military preeminence." The way to acquire and retain such military preeminence is to take full advantage of the "revolution in military affairs" made possible by technological advances. Bring about this transformation of US military forces will, however, probably be a long, slow process, partly because it will be very expensive. However, the document suggests, the process could occur more quickly if America suffered "some catastrophic and catalyzing event ? like a new Pearl Harbor." This statement, you would think, should have gotten the attention of some members of the 9/11 Commission. Another motive on the part of the Bush administration was its desire to attack Afghanistan so as to replace the Taliban with a US-friendly government in order to further US economic and geopolitical aims. At the center of these motives was the desire to enable the building of a multibillion dollar pipeline route by a consortium known as CentGas (Central Asia Gas Pipeline), which was formed by US oil giant Unocal. The planned route would bring oil and gas from the land-locked Caspian region, with its enormous reserves, to the sea through Afghanistan and Pakistan. By 2001, the Taliban had come to be perceived as an obstacle to this project. They even had troops around the Afgan border BEFORE 9/11. I mean it's endless. Really....I could go on for ever. Bush's ratings in the polls shot way up. It eventually lead to Republicans getting control of both houses. Please check all this stuff out, they did it, YOU know they did.......you just haven't realised you know.

Hmmm. Well. You don't come off well on that rant. SPAMMING?? Never said that "people rushed in straight after and set the charges up" They Demolished building 7......that must have been done weeks before then.....yet the official report says 'fire' brought it down...ha...I mean look at how it fell.....they must think we are ALL idiots. They are even still saying that fires brought it down - EVEN AFTER IT'S BEEN ADMITTED BY THE OWNER THAT IT WAS DEMOLISHED. AND you can SEE that the twin towers were blasted outwards in a different sort of demolition. Just watch it, up close. MASSIVE bits of steal flying UPWARDS into the sky, other bits of the steal are UTTERLY shredded in tiny bits and you can actually SEE it all happening. Am I the only one here who can't believe the complete lies we have been told? Watching the towers fall from a wide shot now makes me feel sort of stupid for ever believing the official lie. Watch them fall......every single bit below the plane impact area just crumbles like a biscuit.....ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, EVERY INCH - 1,368 feet, 8.6 million sq ft -.......it's insulting our intelligence!! They fall at freefall speed....NO AIR RESISTANCE AT ALL!! So the fact we were told about the 'pancake' theory - that is every floor impacting the next (with seemingly perfect weight distribution) - proves their (the criminal government elements) arogance....it's all lie. (Check out the "911 EyeWitness" DVD/Video) This is only mentioning 1% of the monumental crap the world has been told. Trust me, get up to speed. I'd hate to be someone who hasn't realised the way we all have been screwed when the truth finally is globally seen. The worm is turning on 9/11: EVERYONE KNOWS !! Oh and "Anti-American"??? You really said that.......EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NEVER EVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ME HATING AMERICAN CITIZENS!!! Yet purely Anti-American is good enough of an insult for you to give me.... Some people. "First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

Yes, and it wasn't Isreal. REMEMBER THAT. This notion that Isreal had soldiers taken and this started the whole thing is a BIG FAT LIE. Those soldiers were taken within Lebanon while illegally crossing the border. THIS WAS IN THE NEWS BEFORE THIS CONFLICT STARTED These attcks on innocent people is on purpose.....it's all about creating so much hate by killing SO many innocent people and waiting for some other regional country to get involved (IRAN) - then they can call more people "Terrorists" - thus 'justiying' this bloody action.

I know......it had become a decent thread again too.

It is....GENERAL SMUT......that really is fallacy, it's just a flippant argument.

You can watch a section of the 9/11 + The Neo-Con Agenda 'Panel Discussion' on C-SPAN's website at any time here.... Realplayer link http://rtsp://video.c-span.org/60days/ap072906_theories.rm?mode=compact AND because of the huge response it's also being re-shown on CSPAN-1: September 11th Terrorist Attacks Tuesday 1st August 06:10 PM EDT 1:45 (est.)

The Qana Massacre You Tube | July 31 2006 Another ADE video. Please note: the video contains disturbing images of dead children. Here are the victims of a war we are told was started by Hezbollah, despite the fact that it was Israeli soldiers who entered Lebanon illegally before they were captured. Israel's policy of deliberately targeting the weakest and most innocent members of humanity proves that they are desperately trying to provoke a major terrorist attack within Israel to justify their agenda to completely subjegate the middle east.

That's the sad thing....people have to realise that it should not be an attack on the people. It's political agenda that is driving this. I was at a big-ish (well, bigger than expected) S.T.W.C public demonstration outside Downing Street on friday afternoon where an Immediate Cease Fire petition was being handed to Government heads. Within the crowd I saw a few "Olmert does not speak for us" banners and some T-Shirts too.....people should understand that there are peace lovers on both sides......but it's just some people are pretty stupid and can't quite grasp this. There were some Hizbollah flags that appeared after everyone had turned up and the chants were in full flow.....it was a bit suspicious as half the people with those flags (there were only about 6 of them) didn't seem to understand who Hizbollah were. And we think we saw someone (agent provocateurs) sneak down the front and hand them to people who obviously had no clue and started waving them about. Everyone else just over powered them with "cease fire now!" shouting, which actually was started by my friend and I as it WAS a cease fire demo after all. Also, we wanted to get the crowd to move away from the "DOWN, DOWN, ISREAL!!" chants beacuse although it wasn't being said in an 'anti-Isreali' tone, it did sometimes feel as if the thousands of people passing by might be getting the wrong idea. The "down. down, Isreal" chant was really a stab at Olmert so many people chose to focus on that aspect, rather than simply rubbing more dirt into the 'Isreali Peoples' name.

It's awful - but they did. And why would I have "I don't belive the U.S. gov. is completely truthful, but I don't belive they are behind the 9/11" as an option? This is asking about 9/11 and the governments involvement and whether they have told the truth - it's not about if they are truthful or not on other matters (which they aren't).

Hey, I'm sorry that my government is supporting Isreal.....your sorry about what Isreal has done today........I'm sure the Isreali people are mostly upset about this situation....but the fact is Olmert, Bush and Blair are not interested in making all out peace. They need fighting and destruction so that they have an excuse to go into these countries and take control - as well as eventually pulling Iran into this, one way or another. The Isreali army have been far more guiltly of acts of "terrorism". And as I say it's the army and government....not the people of Isreal. By simply called Hizbollah "terrorists" that you need to kill isn't looking at the situation correctly.

Yes! He makes me feel as if my brain is being twisted about with a fork.

Yeah, I posted that on the last page. Olmert said he needs another 16 days of attacks. Terrorist.

Dozens killed in Lebanon air raid More than 54 civilians, at least 34 of them children, have been killed in a town in south Lebanon in the deadliest Israeli strike of the conflict so far. Displaced families had been sheltering in the basement of a house in Qana, which was crushed after a direct hit. Lebanon's prime minister denounced "Israeli war criminals" and cancelled talks with the US secretary of state. ......the story contimues here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5228224.stm

^ indeed!

Well, the full weekend is going to have a DVD release.

fantastic ;) I've saw the full thing before - including the Full Visual Presentations about every aspect. But this is just the panel discussion.....still it's vital viewing for people who are new to this.

Yes... Anyway.. It's on now C-SPAN 1 8PM EST (7PM CST) and then air again for the West Coast at 11pm EST (10pm CST). You can watch the program online at the times stated above by clicking here. or here! WATCH IT!!!! Everyone!!

Blair to attend Bohemian Grove This Weekend? Others including Schwarzenegger, Clinton, Murdoch, Shultz, Peres, Gore, Gingrich, Beane, Summers, Bono all in San Francisco this weekend Steve Watson / Prisonplanet | July 29 2006 This weekend sees the finale of the annual gathering of the Bohemian Club in the secluded redwoods about 75 miles north of San Francisco. It just so happens that Tony Blair will be in San Francisco all weekend along with a whole host of other powerful elite luminaries. Whilst the world seems to be on the brink of major war, Blair is, as reported today by the London Independent, on a flying tour of California to meet and do private business with Rupert Murdoch. The San Francisco Chronicle reports: The tony, private event, a five-day management retreat for 250 executives of Rupert Murdoch's News Corp., is set to bring together a VIP guest list for the ages to chat about issues like volunteerism, technology and politics. Among them: Blair, Israeli Vice Premier Shimon Peres, former President Bill Clinton, former Vice President Al Gore, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Oakland A's general manager Billy Beane, former Harvard University President Lawrence Summers and even U2 lead singer and international do-gooder Bono. Introducing Blair to the crowd on Sunday evening will be California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. The Republican governor will be celebrating his birthday and is expected to be on hand with first lady Maria Shriver at the event sponsored by Murdoch, a generous donor to the GOP whose mega-corporation owns Fox News, 20th Century Fox, DirecTV and 175 newspapers worldwide -- including the New York Post -- with a total circulation of 40 million. Whilst in San Francisco Blair will also dine with George and Charlotte Shultz, the former secretary of state and current state protocol chief, respectively, and he's also expected to meet with Democratic gubernatorial nominee Phil Angelides. Clinton, Shultz, Gore and Gingrich have all reportedly visited Bohemian Grove on previous occasions. The SF Chronicle also reported that Schwarzenegger was hand picked to become California Governor in 2003 at the Grove. Could Blair and his friends be popping by the Redwoods for a visit this year? The timing of the gathering with Murdoch is very convenient. The Grove hosts the Bohemian Club every year, members include George H.W. Bush, Charles Schwab and Walter Cronkite. It has been reported by major publications in the past that world policy is discussed at the Grove in between frolicking naked, urinating on trees and engaging in bizarre Paganistic rituals. In 2000 Alex Jones infiltrated the gathering and caught exclusive video footage of a bizarre mock human sacrifice ritual, known as "the cremation of care", under a 40 foot stone owl that the members refer to as Molech. Former President Richard Nixon is on record discussing homosexual activity at the Grove, whilst it is also documented that male and female porn stars and prostitutes are shipped in for the annual retreat. We have previously reported that Tony Blair and his wife are "obsessed" with new age practices and ceremonies and have in the past according to the London Guardian, attended Aztec Re-birthing rituals. Furthermore, according to the London Times, Blair has made major political decisions based on new age readings of a hidden force called 'The Light'. Read more on the Bohemian Grove here Related: Blair revelations reiterate elite occult obsession

Well, it's happening faster then ever.....people are realising the truth at an enormous rate. There are millions of people who have found out the real story. Anyway....I'm positive that the human spirit knows when something is not right.....and we will fight.

I really believe that we can make a difference... I just hope people watch the program on C-SPAN 1 and get infromed..

Global Oil Scam: War, Disaster, Lower Living Standards Mean Mega Profits Bilderberg's big oil boys come up trumps again while we pay through the nose Steve Watson / Infowars | July 29 2006 This week has seen every major player in the oil industry announce record profits despite prices being at all time highs and production levels decreasing. Surging oil prices helped drive quarterly profits for US energy giant ExxonMobil to 10.36 billion dollars, revenues have exceed $1bn a day, the first time in history for a US company. The second-quarter profit was up 36 percent from a year ago and approached the company's all-time record profit of 10.71 billion dollars that was believed to be one of the biggest for any company. At $6.3bn, Royal Dutch Shell's underlying profits for the three months to the end of June were 36 per cent higher than over the same period last year, despite serious disruption to production in Nigeria. Shell's earnings were equivalent to about $3m an hour. ConocoPhillips announced yet another record profit, a 65 percent increase in profit over this time last year. BP Plc, Europe’s biggest oil company, said second-quarter profit climbed 30% to a record as crude prices surged and refining earnings increased. Chevron Corp. said Friday its second-quarter profit surged 18 percent to set a new three-month high. The record profits have been attributed to the rise in prices caused by the hurricanes in the gulf of Mexico and the escalating violence in the middle east. Gas prices have hit all time highs. "Americans are paying near-record gas prices, oil companies are reaping billions in profits, but the response from the Oil Men in the White House and the Republicans in Congress has been billions for Big Oil and a backhand to the American people," Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid said Thursday. US Representative Ed Markey added, "While American families get tipped upside down and have their savings shaken out of their pockets at the gas pump, the Bush-Cheney team devises even more ways to line Big Oil's pockets." The three largest oil and gas producers in the world generated profits of nearly 23 billion dollars in the second quarter. The oil industry's boom comes a year after the policy to artificially jack up prices was formulated and announced by the Bilderberg group in 2005 at their annual gathering. Long term Bilderberg investigators Jim Tucker, of American Free Press, and Daniel Estulin have many of the same sources and both stated one year ago that Henry Kissinger told Bilderberg attendees during last year's conference in Rottach-Egernthat oil prices would double over the next year. A year ago oil stood at $40 a barrel - now it's close to $75. Oil hit a record high of $78.40 a barrel earlier this month. The oil industry is regularly represented at the Bilderberg conference by John Browne, BP´s chief executive officer; John Kerr, director Royal Dutch Shell; Peter D. Sutherland, BP chairman and Jeroen van der Veer, chairman of the Committee of Managing Directors of Royal Dutch Shell. Queen Beatrix of Holland, Royal Dutch Shell´s principal shareholder is a full-fledged member of the Bilderbergers. Her father, prince Bernhard was one of the founders of the group back in 1954. According to Daniel Estulin's inside sources, at the 2005 Bilderberg conference it was announced that the general public does not realize that the price for cheap oil can be the bursting of the debt bubble. Cheap oil slows economic growth because it depresses commodity prices and reduces world liquidity. There is a strong indication, based on the information reported from the Bilderberg 2005 meeting in Rottach-Egern, that the Federal Reserve is extremely concerned about the debt bubble. An American Bilderberger reported that if the price of oil is to go down to its previous low of $25 a barrel, the debt-driven asset bubble will explode. Economic experts have stated that oil prices are not going to fall, rather they are going to rise further: Analysts do not rule out the possibility of oil crossing the $100 a barrel mark, given the escalation of violence in the Middle East and the imminent peak of the U.S. hurricane season. There are more bets placed on an $80-a-barrel oil, as oil has climbed by about $10 a year in the past. The supply side of the equation remains vulnerable due to the surrounding geopolitical uncertainties especially in oil producing nations in the Middle East, Nigeria and Venezuela. The demand growth is likely to stay elevated due to the scorching pace of growth in developing economies like India and China. - http://www.tradingmarkets.com/tm.site/news/TOP%20STORY/321705/]RealTimeTraders.com The key for big oil to make massive profit is not to produce more but to limit and strictly control the supply of oil. Thus an artificial scarcity is created whereby the demand increases and the price skyrockets. When lefty critics vomit out the cliche "its all about getting the oil' when referring to the Iraq war, what they fail to realise is that it's not about hoarding the oil and selling more and more, it is about taking control of it and stemming the flow. For this very reason the continued violence in the middle east and the fallout of disasters such as hurricane Katrina will not harm big oil, it will allow the industry to reap massive profits. Furthermore, higher energy prices do not take money out of the economy, they merely shift profit allocation from one business sector to another. In this sense expensive oil means reduced consumption in other sectors, unless higher income can be generated from the increased cash flow. Higher income translates into longer working hours, which often results in lower standard of living. So while Bilderberg's big oil boys get richer and fatter by producing less, the rest of the world gets poorer and has to work longer and harder to produce more. This is how the elite system works. Publicly available CFR and Club of Rome strategy manuals from 30 years ago say that a global government needs to control the world population through neo-feudalism by creating artificial scarcity. Now that the social architects have de-industrialized the United States, they are going to blame our economic disintegration on lack of energy supplies. Globalization is all about consolidation. Now that the world economy has become so centralized through the Globalists operations, they are going to continue to consolidate and blame it on the West's "evil" over consumption of fossil fuels, while at the same time blocking the development and integration of renewable clean technologies. This brings us to Peak oil. Peak oil is the theory that we have hit the peak of the world's oil supply and we are fast running out, therefore we must limit production. Peak oil is a theory advanced by the elite, by the oil industry, by the very people that you would think peak oil would harm, unless it was a cover for another agenda. Which from the evidence of artificial scarcity being deliberately created, the reasons for doing so and who benefits, it’s clear that peak oil is a myth and it should be exposed for what it is. Another excuse for the Globalists to seize more control over our lives and sacrifice more American sovereignty in the meantime. The crux of the issue is that if oil was plentiful in areas in which we are being told by the government and the oil companies that it is not, then we have clear evidence that artificial scarcity is being simulated in order to drive forward a myriad of other agendas. And we have concrete examples of where this has happened. Three separate internal confidential memos from Mobil, Chevron and Texaco have been obtained by The Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights. These memos outline a deliberate agenda to gouge prices and create artificial scarcity by limiting capacities of and outright closing oil refineries. This was a nationwide lobbying effort led by the American Petroleum Institute to encourage refineries to do this. Read more about Peak Oil here. While the big oil companies protest their innocence at making massive massive profits, suggesting the profit margins are lower than many other sectors, and that much of the earnings are reinvested in new production, they are perpetrating the biggest elitist economic scam on the planet.

Yep, it's always the case, arming countries - then making them the enemy and then demanding that they be disarmed by force.....which in turn destroys the country and has all of it's money assets (oil etc..) stolen. At the same time making the Bush/Bin Laden family millions on construction contracts through the Carlyle Group (from building of bases etc)

Don't forget to watch the 9/11 + The Neo-Con Agenda Panel Discussion on C-SPAN 1 today The program will air on C-SPAN 1 at 8PM EST (7PM CST) on Saturday, July 29th and then air again for the West Coast at 11pm EST (10pm CST). You can watch the program online at the times stated above by clicking here. or here!

Lebanese Die as Condi Plays Piano in Malaysia Kurt Nimmo | July 28 2006 It is certainly a myth that Nero played a fiddle while Rome burned—since the violin was not invented for a full fifteen centuries after his rule—but it is true Condi Rice, Bush’s Secretary of State, played the piano in Kuala Lumpur as Lebanese continue to die under a hard rain of Israeli bombs and apparently chemical weapons, a situation allowed to continue after Condi nixed the “false promise” of a cease-fire and thumbed her nose at the Syrians and Hezbollah. “In keeping with her ’serious’ mood the Secretary of State performed two pieces from the brooding repertoire of Johannes Brahms—a solo Intermezzo number two, and Brahms Sonata for violin and piano, opus 108, with a Malaysian guest soloist,” reports the Gulf Times. “She arrived at the Istana hotel in downtown Kuala Lumpur for the annual gala dinner wearing a glamorous red dress and red jacket made of traditional Malaysian batik material…. Regional ministers swooned over the performance as they left the dinner. ‘Oh, beautiful, beautiful. She’s a great pianist. She’s a concert pianist,’ said Philippines Foreign Secretary Alberto Romulo, who insisted that despite the geopolitical realities a good time was had by all.” How utterly disgusting. Of course, the Lebanese, facing “the geopolitical realities” of Israeli aggression and indiscriminate murder, are not having a good time, but then they hardly matter, as became obvious the moment Rice’s plane touched down and she engaged in “discussions” with the Israelis, talks designed to do little more than provide the Israelis with more time to kill Lebanese civilians. Once upon a time, U.S. officials at least put on a somber face when engaging in peace talks during international crises, but Condi simply could not be bothered—she smiled and joked at every turn, even yucked it up during photo ops with Kofi Annan. Meanwhile, over at the New York Times, the terror transformation is in full swing. According to Neil MacFarquhar, so-called analysts believe “by taking on Israel, Hezbollah had instantly eclipsed Al Qaeda,” in other words, the two groups—or one legitimate resistance group, since “al-Qaeda” is a black op designed to scare the pants of weak-kneed and half-witted Americans—are in a race of sorts to see who is the baddest terrorist. Over at Fox, they are involved in race of their own—to blur the lines between Hezbollah and “al-Qaeda,” the terrorist group nobody can demonstrate actually exists. “The latest dispatch from the Al Qaeda killers urges all Islamic fascists to travel to the Middle East and kill Jews. Bin Laden’s second in command, Zawahiri, issued that order on videotape yesterday,” avers Fox News loudmouth Bill O’Reilly, who has “been telling you all along that these jihadists are joined together by hatred of Jews and Americans. The World War III concept is that Islamic fascism has to be confronted in all its forms.” Problem is, though, most Americans are not onboard with this “Islam as fascism” paradigm—more accurately a crude and absurd propaganda device—trotted out like a gaudy frat house float during a homecoming parade now that Hezbollah is kicking IOF tail. “But many Americans do not yet get that, as the CBS poll demonstrated,” continues the arrogant one, puffed up grotesquely with poisonous neocon hubris. “If anybody thinks we can sit out the jihad, they’re wrong. Right now, Israel is doing us a favor by attacking Hezbollah. We Americans are fortunate we have an ocean between us and the Islamic killers. If we didn’t, we’d be facing this in the good old USA…. So bottom line, whoever is fighting the terrorists is our friend. Whoever is helping them is our enemy.” Need he say more?