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Yes, but you can't really rely on the bible for sense. There's a talking snake in there ;) :laugh2: Noah and his 'Ark' is a strange story.

Continued turmoil has given Israel the opportunity to began to physically move troops into southern Lebanon in addition to their persistant artillery strikes. Israel is reporting that Iran and Syria are the manufacturers of weapons used by Hezbollah and Hamas in strikes on Israeli targets furthering Israel's case for a war on those two countries.

Transcript: Bush's candid comments Updated: 9:43 a.m. ET July 17, 2006 Not realizing his remarks were being picked up by a microphone, President Bush bluntly expressed his frustration with Hezbollah, and his preference for diet Coke during the G-8 summit in St. Petersburg. Read a transcript of his comments: Bush to Putin: I gotta leave by 2:15. They want me out of town so they can free up your security forces. No, just going to make it up. I'm not going to talk too long like the rest of them. Some of these guys talk too long. Gotta go home. Got something to do tonight. How about you? Where are you going home? This is your neighborhood doesn't take you long to get home. You eight hours? Me too. Russia’s a big country and you’re a big country. Takes him eight hours to fly home. Not Coke, diet Coke. Russia’s big and so is China. Yo, Blair. What are you doing? Are you leaving? Blair: No, not yet. On this trade thing… Bush: Yeah, I told that to (inaudible). If you want me to. I just want some movement. Yesterday I didn't see much movement. The desire to move. Blair: It may be that it’s impossible. Bush: I'll be glad to say. Who's introducing me? Blair: Angela Bush: Well tell her to call on it. Well, tell her to put me on the spot. Thanks for the sweater; it was awfully thoughtful of you. I know you picked it out yourself. Blair: Oh, absolutely! What about Kofi Annan? I don't like the sequence of it. His attitude is basically cease-fire and everything else happens. I think the thing that is really difficult is you can’t stop this unless you get this international presence agreed. Bush: She's going. I think Condi's going to go pretty soon. Blair: Well that's all that matters. If you see, it will take some time to get out of there. But at least it gives people… Bush: It's a process I agree. I told her your offer too. Blair: Well it's only…or if she's gonna or if she needs the ground prepared as it were. See if she goes out, she's got to succeed as it were, where as I can just go out and talk. Bush: See the irony is what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit and it's over. Blair: Because I think this is all part of the same thing. What does he think? He thinks if Lebanon turns out fine, if he gets a solution in Israel and Palestine, Iraq goes in the right way, he's done it. That's what this whole things about. It's the same with Iran. Bush: I felt like telling Kofi to get on the phone with Assad and make something happen. We're not blaming Israel and we're not blaming the Lebanese government.

Mideast crisis drives Bush to 'colourful' language Mon 17 Jul 2006 7:21 AM ET (Adds quotes, details; Eds note strong language in paragraphs 1, 6) ST PETERSBURG, Russia, July 17 (Reuters) - A microphone picked up an unaware U.S. President George W. Bush saying on Monday Syria should press Hizbollah to "stop doing this shit" and that his secretary of state may go to the Middle East soon. Bush was talking privately to British Prime Minister Tony Blair during a lunch at the Group of Eight summit in St Petersburg about an upsurge of violence in the Middle East, not realising a microphone was transmitting what he said. "I think Condi (Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice) is going to go pretty soon," Bush said. Blair replied: "Right, that's all that matters, it will take some time to get that together." Rice said on Sunday she was thinking of going to the Middle East if it would help. Blair said Rice has "got to succeed" if she goes to the region. Bush replied: "What they need to do is to get Syria to get Hizbollah to stop doing this shit." The U.S. president blames Syria and Iran for supporting Hizbollah guerrillas operating in southern Lebanon. Bush also seemed to complain about U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan wanting an immediate ceasefire to stop the violence between Israel and Hizbollah. "I don't like the sequence of it," Bush said. "His attitude is basically ceasefire and everything else happens." Blair said: "I think the thing that is really difficult is you can't stop this unless you get this international presence agreed." G8 leaders, in a statement on Sunday, suggested the U.N. Security Council should consider an international security and monitoring presence along the Lebanese-Israeli border. Later, Bush said he felt like telling Annan to telephone Syrian President Bashir Assad "and make something happen". "We're not blaming Israel and we're not blaming the Lebanese government," he said. The two leaders also appeared to chat about the Doha Round of world trade talks, stalled by lack of common ground among governments on farm subsidies and intellectual property rights. "I just want some movement. Yesterday I didn't see much movement, the desire to move," said Bush. "It may be that it's impossible," Blair replied. Ultimately Blair noticed the microphone and hastily switched it off, but not before the recording had reached news media. In the chummy conversation between long-time allies, Bush teased the British leader about a sweater Blair had apparently given him. "Thanks for the sweater, it was awfully thoughtful of you. I know you picked it out yourself," Bush said. "Oh, absolutely," said Blair. :sick: Makes me want to puke... WATCH A CLIP FROM MSNBC HERE http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13901209/

haha.....lol all I can say is North American Union......Open Borders......lots of fighting.......enjoy. :)

Haha, it actually makes me want to break things when I hear people with such home-grown, fox news moulded views say things like "you're too far gone". Damn culture of no-nothing, think you know it all's.

To actually publically take political sides these days is a bad thing.....considering they both are one and the same at the moment. I don't have a political leaning.

You go on about 'europes poltical views are messed up because of their anti semetism against jews' too much man...... What do you call an anti-european???

I never ever have implied that I don't know history. I just know it's relevance when making topic comments. You actually use it really badly I'm afraid.

Keep in mind that there is more to suggest otherwise and we will win....and I can't wait to see the day. :) :) :) Plus, you say that Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen....correct, it was. This is a well known fact. So, in History...the government has knowingly killed it's own people as a pretext for war..... and with 9/11 it happened all over again.....

No, no.....Bayer take the blame - everyone else is to blame equally. The US knew about it, just as much as the other countries did.....and never told anyone.

No, it's about talking over the world. Stealing resources and killing as many people in the process it seems. What you are saying about Iran is exactly what the mainstream media (who is owned by people who benefit from wars) is spouting out. It's sad that so mant people get lied to in such a way, Just like last time with Iraq.

Yeah, some French Government Officals went to prison for it. Shame the US Government looked the other way.

no, no, no way.....you don't get to give me a 'history lesson'. The facts are that the US is hell bent on attacking Iran and taking over another part of that region. The US carries out more outragous terrorism than Iran. What do you call destroying Iraq and killing thousands upon thousnads of people - all this on a big lie. LEARN FROM THAT BIG MISTAKE!!! A LEARN IT WAS ALL FOR MONEY AND POWER!! Iran has no where near been proved a massive threat......and all these 'terrorists cells' that are currently operating were either (a) created by the US or (b) formed in response to US or Isreali aggression.....i.e Hezbollah formed after Isreal went into southern Lebanon. Whenever the US or the UK or Isreal carry out major attacks with lots of needless deaths it's called a good old war.........but when anyone else acts in the style of war it's labelled 'terrorism'. We are not going to stand for this blatent attempt by the global superpowers to take over another part of the world.

This terrible issue falls victim of smoke-screen bickering. Back to topic.

This stuff isn't being ignored exactly like you seem to think.

Wildly disproportionate attack on Lebanon seems like pretext to confront Iran Toronto Star | July 16, 2006 by Linda McQuaig As Israeli firepower rained down on Lebanon last week, pundits here in the West wasted no time pinning the blame on — Iran. "Iran and its radical allies are pushing toward war," wrote Washington Post columnist David Ignatius. Washington defence commentator Edward Luttwak weighed in: "Iran's leaders have apparently decided to reject the Western offer to peacefully settle the dispute over its weapons-grade uranium-enrichment program." In fact, Iran's leaders haven't rejected the "Western offer;" they've said publicly they will respond to it by Aug. 22. This isn't fast enough however to satisfy Washington, which considers the "offer" more of an ultimatum. Is it really Iran that is pushing for war? Think about it. Why would Iran want to provoke a war with Israel and the U.S. — both heavily armed nuclear powers — when it has no nuclear weapons itself? The U.S. and Israel, on the other hand, are very keen to attack Iran. In a recent series of articles in New Yorker magazine, Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has detailed Washington's plans to attack Iran. Israel has called Iran a "major threat" that "must be stopped" from developing nuclear weapons. But the U.S. and Israel don't want to look like aggressors. They insist their intentions are purely defensive. Recall that Washington also claimed its invasion of Iraq was purely defensive — to protect itself from Iraq's arsenal of deadly weapons, which, it turned out, didn't exist. So when Hezbollah militants in southern Lebanon seized two Israeli soldiers last week, a perfect opportunity arose. Since Hezbollah has links to Iran, presto, here was a prima facie case that Iran was gunning for confrontation. Did the Western pundits who quickly embraced this theory ever consider that the Hezbollah militants, as well as the Palestinian militants in Gaza who captured a single Israeli soldier last month, might have had their own motives for striking Israel? Certainly the Palestinians have endless grievances against Israel. In addition to four decades of Israeli military occupation of their land, Israel has attempted to destroy the Hamas government, which was democratically elected by Palestinians last January. Hezbollah's seizure of the two Israeli soldiers was probably an act of support for the Palestinians in Gaza, who have been under Israeli military siege since the capture of the first soldier. Hezbollah also said it seized the soldiers because it wanted to trade them for Lebanese prisoners held in Israeli jails. A similar Israeli-Hezbollah prisoner exchange took place in 2004. Abandoning Canada's traditional role as an honest broker in the Middle East, Prime Minister Stephen Harper unabashedly supported Israel last week, calling its devastating attacks on Gaza and Lebanon "measured." If Israel is simply trying to "defend" itself, its actions are wildly disproportionate. On the other hand, if Israel and the U.S. are looking for an excuse to attack Iran, the capture of the Israeli soldiers is as good as any. I'm not suprised Canada has gotten into bed with the US on this one.......PM Stephen Harper is bad news for Canadians.

Yeah, I 100% agree that this is the case....... Alternative news reports are far less restricted with big ex-government names now lending their support. However - this again is ignored by the corporate owned mainstream news.

That is NOT going to be the reason why a huge war will happen. Europe looking the other way? show me this time.

Well, just take into consideration that the mainstream media is owned by the same people who help fund the Government (Republican and Democrat)

Yes, it is amazing.....I love it. He's so good that he doesn't even need to look like him..........yet he somehow does.....genius.

Keep believing, but at a terrible price.