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Go, go away. Please. I can't stand your "don't say that" "your not right" comments. It's annoying. I would say you should check your sources but no, you just choose to close your eyes and shout "no, no, no...your wrong" and don't supply a source. You believe what you want and I will continue to learn.....and I doubt this will change. I said want to debate but not with you who actually called me "pro-arabic" (what?? Annoying!!) as well as "anti-semitic" again........ Infact, don't really want you to go. I just get really pissed at such oppertunism. I call an anti-semitism name called ban.

No, no you can't close this thread....I'm not harshly insulting people. I'm trying to inform/debate the current situation and what led up to this staged war but others seem to want to argue about religion and hide behind anti-semitism everytime a comment is made against the Isreali (US/UK) government. People seem to be just ignoring the stacks of evidence that shows the initial 'trigger pull' for this conflict.

Ok. Don't say you haven't been warned.

"half of that article is lies" , "you don't know what is going on" "ceasefire is playing into the hands of the terrorists" What rubbish, utter horse shit. 1) You can't just SAY that all the news reports of the Isreali soldiers getting taken while in Lebanon isn't true without showing me otherwise. And I don't mean all the bullshit articles from lying corporate media that say it started with Hezbollah. 2) All these 'terrorists' are creations of the globalist western governments....be it from funding or actually taking over part of a country and then calling the resistance to it "terrorist groups". I'm sure Al-CIA-da will have something to say on the matter.....when they recieve the script from the US. 3) All this talk of "typical lefty" is nonsense. I'm not "right wing", I'm not "left wing".....I am for the truth... 4) and anybody talking about anti-semitism in regards to me is an idiot - not even worth the effort.

Israeli forces Slaughter U.N. Observers Kurt Nimmo | July 25, 2006 After Israel bombed a U.N. shelter near Khiam, Lebanon, killing four observers, Daniel Ayalon, Israeli ambassador to the United States, had the audacity to tell Wolf Blizter of CNN he expects an apology from U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan for complaining. Of course, this is nothing new, as the Israelis routinely attack the United Nations and little if anything comes of such murderous crimes against humanity. For instance, on April 18, 1996, in the Lebanese village of Qana, during Israel’s “Operation Grapes of Wrath” invasion, the IOF killed 106 Lebanese refugees seeking protection at a Fijian UNIFIL compound. As usual, the Israeli government expressed regret, but words are cheap, especially considering the fact the IOF consistently issues such meaningless apologies after slaughtering innocents. The Zionist state added insult to injury, or rather mass murder, by not paying compensation to the victims. A few days earlier, on April 12, an IOF attack helicopter fired a missile at an ambulance in the village of al-Mansuri, killing two women and four young girls. On the same day the Israelis killed refugees at Qana, a “helicopter gunship attack on a house in the village of Upper Nabatiyeh on April 18, 1996 … killed nine civilians, including a newborn baby, six children under thirteen years old, and their mother,” according to Human Rights Watch. No word if Daniel Ayalon or his counterpart at the time expected an apology from the families of the victims. Israel’s IOF has engaged in numerous massacres in Bint Jbeil, Khan Yunis, Maaraka, Jibaa, Qibya, Saida, Trqumia, Homeen al-Tahta, Seer al-Garbiah, Yohmor, Sabra and Shatila, on and on, ad nauseam, killing thousands of Arabs, massacres so common we rarely hear about them here in America, what with our “fair and balanced” corporate media. The numbers of United Nations personnel killed by the IOF pales in comparison. However, on 3 December 2002, sixty-four U.N. workers issued a petition demanding the Israeli military stop “beating and killing” them, according to the Memory Hole, an appropriate venue, as the corporate media ignored the petition. “You might think that such a strongly-worded statement sent by more than five-dozen United Nations workers to the ‘Middle East’s only democracy’ would be highly newsworthy. Apparently not. Among the very few media outlets to cover it were Reuters, the BBC, the Independent (London), Ha’aretz (Jerusalem), and the Jerusalem Post. Notice that all these sources are British or Israeli. Not one American media outlet has covered the story.” “[F]or two years United Nations staff have been subject to escalating harassment and violence by Israel’s military, so that the protection supposed to be afforded by the blue letters of the UN is being steadily eroded,” the petition explains. “UN staff—international and Palestinian alike—have been verbally abused, stripped, beaten, shot at, and killed by Israeli soldiers.” Tragically Iain Hook was not the first person working with the UN to die at the hands of the IDF this year. In March, Kamal Hamdan was shot and killed while travelling in a clearly marked UNRWA ambulance in the West Bank. In April, Husni Amer died in Israeli military custody in Jenin after, according to witnesses, receiving a brutal beating by the soldiers at the time of his arrest. From its silence, we presume the Israeli authorities have ignored UN requests for an investigation and report of these two incidents, and have not seen fit to take any disciplinary action against the soldiers involved. To us, this seems to confirm a pattern of utter contempt on the part of the Israeli army for the lost lives of these men, the safety of UN staff or the minimum standards imposed by international law which should protect UN staff and other humanitarian workers. Again, no word if Daniel Ayalon demanded an apology. Addendum It appears the IOF targeted UNIFIL for a very specific reason, namely to send the message the Zionist state doesn’t need no stinkin’ peacekeepers, especially peacekeepers who mostly evacuate citizens from Israel’s killing fields. More specifically, it was a message sent in regard to the prospect of yet another multinational peacekeeping force sent to Lebanon. As Bush, or rather the neocons, tell us, Israel must be left alone to go after Hezbollah, that is to say Lebanese resisting invasion and occupation. It didn’t take long for the corporate media to shellack the murder of the UN observers with sickening excuses. In addition to excuses, the Chicago Tribune felt compelled, as a standard lickspittle for Israeli crimes, to powder puff the invasion: “The experience for the U.N. Interim Force in Lebanon, or UNIFIL, has not been a good one. In place since 1978 and comprising soldiers from France, Poland, India, Italy and a few other countries, UNIFIL was unable to stop the July 12 Hezbollah border raid that resulted in the kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers. It was also unable to block retaliating Israeli troops from entering Lebanon a few days later.” As we know, the Israeli soldiers were captured in Lebanon, as reported by Forbes, the Associated Press, ABC News, the Boston Herald, the Hindustan Times, the Bahrain News Agency, Deutsche Presse-Agentur, AFP, Asia Times, and others. For more on the ever-morphing story, see this blog entry. But then, naturally, the Chicago Tribune would be bucking the pro-Israel corporate media stampede if it told the truth. Imagine Winston Smith rewriting historical documents so that they match the current party line, which changes on a daily basis, over at the Ministry of Truth, and you’ll get a good idea of what’s going on here. One wonders what the response would be if the Palestinians and Lebanese “retaliated” against Israel for kidnapping their citizens, numbering in the hundreds. Finally, according to the Washington Post, the IOF continued firing on the targeted shelter, even as rescue workers attempted to clear the rubble. But then this should not be surprising, as the surviving members of the USS Liberty, the intelligence ship attacked by Israel on June 8, 1967, will likely tell you. In that instance, our “friends” attacked lifeboats with torpedoes and machine gun fire, a war crime. It seems the Israeli government are mighty fond of war crimes.

NAFTA Superhighway RFID Card For US Citizens Trusted traveler toll road system means government will decide if, where you travel Paul Joseph Watson | July 26 2006 US citizens will be forced to adopt a de-facto national identification card and have their freedom of mobility defined by behavioural fielty to the government under proposals set to derive from NAFTA superhighway toll road systems and the implementation of the American Union. Existing toll road systems operational at US borders such as SENTRI/NEXUS and the FAST program mandate that passing vehicles are enrolled in RFID passive tracking and identification programs linked to central databases. The open plan to merge the US with Mexico and Canada and create a Pan American Union networked by a NAFTA Super Highway has long been a Globalist brainchild but its very real and prescient implementation on behalf of the Council on Foreign Relations has recently come under bright spotlight. According to author Jerome Corsi, "Across the NAFTA Super-Highways will flow millions more Mexicans, now armed with North American border passes and biometric identification, as defined by the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America working groups organized within the Department of Commerce." Similar toll systems snaking their way from the southern and northern borders cutting through major American cities will force American citizens to submit to having RFID enabled identification cards which contain an ever-increasing array of information about their personal lives. Illegal aliens with cloned RFID transponders will enjoy streamlined access to the US while Americans labor under the financial burden of tolls that go directly to foreign corporations and restrictions that take the right of free travel out of their hands. To even be allowed to use major roads and highways, US citizens will be subject to a criminal background check and the government will have the ability to pinpoint their particular RFID signal and remotely block it from central computer mainframes - effectively abolishing freedom of mobility in America. Political dissidents attending protests or hurricane victims attempting to flee could find their journeys cut short at the whim of beaureacrats under the guise of 'protecting national security'. A May 2006 Homeland Security audit predicts that increasing amounts of traveller's personal information will be stored on central computer databases and readable via passive RFID tracking. It forecasts an expansion of the 'trusted traveler' system being introduced in airports to all major roads and highways. The Bush administration has embraked on a policy of selling off key US infrastructure to the highest bidder - in most cases foreign owned corporations. The Indiana Toll Road, Virginia's Pocahontas Parkway, a Texas toll road from Austin to Sequin and The Chicago Skyway have all been siphoned off to foreign companies who will all enjoy billions in profits from American citizens forced to pay the tolls. The New Jersey Turnpike and the Ohio Turnpike are also under the hammer with foreign interests at the forefront of the negotiations. The framework on which the American Union is being pegged is the NAFTA Super Highway (pictured) , a four football-fields-wide leviathan that stretches from southern Mexico through the US up to Montreal Canada. An earlier Corsi article cites government websites which carry full planning details of the Super Highway and its construction has already begun in Texas with no congressional oversight whatsoever. The Trans-Texas Corridor is being overseen by The Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) and the contract is owned by the Cintra corporation which in turn is owned by the King of Spain Juan Carlos. The project is being financed by the implementation of a toll that will be collected by means of GPS tracking devices installed in all vehicles and also envelops many connecting roads to the highway. The NAFTA Super Highway will allow vehicles, people and goods to travel from Mexico, into the heart of America and up to Canada with little impediment, effectively erasing America's borders wholesale. Coupled with Bush's blanket amnesty program, the Pan American Union and the NAFTA Superhighway are the final hammer blows for the wholesale dismantling of American sovereignty.

Stop telling me to "come and live there" or "come and live life here" rubbish....what a silly comment. Do you think that all the main government leaders from around the world live there?? no - yet they get to make all the decisions. What you write is "bullshit" as you make so many badly but together arguments in your last posts that it seems it is really you that has no grasp on what really is happening in the world. You just ignore most of my post to make your point....which is not really a point at all. I'm sorry but you've been led to believe lies.....and probably not for the first or last time. Your Government (as well as mine and the US) are commiting themselves to a horrible, bloody staged war. It's tough but true.

I will... Good article: WWIII and the New Status Quo Ante Agenda Long term three world war agenda unfolding in the here and now Steve Watson / Infowars | July 26 2006 Condoleeza Rice's statement today that a return to the 'political Status Quo Ante' is not an option is very revealing in terms of what we are to expect in the coming weeks months and years. Despite the fact that every nation on the planet, barring the two globalist control centres of the US and the UK wants an immediate ceasefire and an end to the killing, a ceasefire is not what we are going to get. What does this reveal about who is in control of modern political events? The elite few and not the many are running the entire show and what they say goes because they have the international bankers and their long established financial systems of enslavement onside to ply them with endless wealth to fund the killing and reap back the profits. The political world is going to be changed for ever by a totally staged managed escalation of violence that will foment a pre-scripted third world war. The US media is for the most part hideously spewing out what will inevitably be written in the history books. Today's Chicago Times editorial succinctly sums up the total falsehood that may become known as the catalytic event after 9/11 that started World War Three: Hezbollah started this conflict by invading Israel and killing and kidnapping soldiers... In reality it is the exact opposite that is the case. Israel sent troops over the Lebanese border into the South of the country and then claimed the captured invaders were "kidnap victims" and launched their attacks. The Associated press reported this, The AFP reported this, the Hindustan Times reported this, the Bahrain News Agency reported this, The Deutsche Presse-Agentur reported this, The Asia Times reported this, voltairenet reported this. in fact every foreign media outlet reported this, yet the US media reports that the exact opposite happened. It has also now been revealed that Israeli spy networks, long in operation in Lebanon, were on alert, scoping out targets to be destroyed four days before the two Israeli soldiers were captured in Lebanon. The Jeruslaem post reported on the 12th of July that only weeks ago, an entire reserve division was drafted in order to train for the operation along the northern border. In the same report a very high ranking military officer said that if the captured soldiers were not returned in good condition, Israel would turn Lebanon back 20 years by striking its vital infrastructure. Clearly whether the vital infrastructure of Lebanon was under the control of Hezbollah or not was not an issue for Israel. "The IDF holds the Lebanese government responsible for any act of terror launched from Lebanon at Israel," a statement released by the IDF spokesperson read. More from the Chicago Times: If Hezbollah wants a cease-fire--and there's little evidence of that--it would be simple to accomplish... Little evidence? What about the fact there was an immediate offer by Hezbollah to release the soldiers, as well as long term hostage and IDF soldier Gilad Shalit, in exchange for thousands of security prisoners? The offer of an immediate truce and talks has again been seemingly snubbed today by Israel. Simple to accomplish? So what about the indiscriminate wiping out by Israel of Lebanese civilians, the airport and even United Nations outposts, killing UN observers ON PURPOSE despite repeated warnings. What about the repeated statements, from the Prime Minister of Israel Ehud Olmert, that the bombing will not stop. Is all that a side issue? The activities of Israel are a fuse that has been lit to ignite the order out of chaos agenda in the middle east that will eventually lead to all out war, the systematic destruction of sovereignty throughout the region and endless globalist occupation and plundering. No one can now deny that the level the violence has been taken to is totally out of all proportion to the events used to justify it. Anyone can see that this has gone beyond a matter of destroying a loosely organized foreign movement. Even State leaders admit the leadership of Israel is pursuing wider agendas. The globalist agenda for a third world war focused on the middle east has been long spoken of and written about. In 1826; Captain William Morgan published an exposure of the powerful masonic movement that had been long infiltrated at the highest levels by the European Illuminati movement. Morgan decided it was his duty to inform all Masons and the general public what the full proof was regarding the Illuminati, their secret plans, intended objectives, and to reveal the identities of the masterminds of the conspiracy. Morgan wrote: World War III is to be fomented, using the so-called controversies; by the agents of the Illuminati operating under whatever new name; that are now being stored up between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Moslem world. That war is to be directed in such a manner that all of Islam and political Zionism will destroy each other while at the same time; the remaining nations, once more divided on this issue, will be forced to fight themselves into a state of complete exhaustion; physically, mentally, spiritually, and economically. Zionism at this time was not an established term or movement, it was unheard of yet here we have a Mason writing openly about it as a future force in the world. The writing of Albert Pike, the Grand Commander of American Freemasonry, later in 1871 also reveals the same Masonic/Illuminati agenda. Predicting both the first and second world wars would lead to the break up of Germany, the expansion of Communist Russia and the establishment of the State of Israel. The next 75 years and beyond unfolded exactly as Pike described. Pike wrote: The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World, The [third] war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. The rest of the world will be drawn in. "Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion... Pike stated that after World War III is ended; those who will aspire to undisputed world-domination will provoke the greatest social-cataclysm the world has ever known, an all powerful malevolent unipolar world order. He stated that the agenda was to "unleash the nihilists and the atheists" and bring this about via "a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time." Essentially Pike foresaw that in order to bring about the Illuminati vision of an all conquering world government, the previously established strong hold religions must be pitted against each other AND against Atheist Communism, exhausting all beliefs and political systems to the point where the world cannot look back to the former Status Quo Ante and must await a new beginning. The turmoil in the Middle East is the start of this new beginning. The centre of power amongst the globalists, or "those who will aspire to undisputed world-domination" as Pike put it, may have shifted, evolved, grown and changed over the last century, but it seems that the overall order out of chaos agenda is still as it was.

Israeli Bombardment Of Lebanon Escalation For World War Three Hyped incursions, kidnappings designed to trap Syria and Iran Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | July 24 2006 The Israeli bombardment of Lebanon is the next escalation of a conflict that is being orchestrated according to a set roadmap that leads directly to World War Three. Israel, the United States and Great Britain have been caught red-handed on numerous occasions staging terror attacks and false flag provocations in the Middle East for over 50 years. How can we any longer believe anything our governments tell us about their actions in the Middle East? Immediately after Bush's ultimatum to Iran which was rebuffed, conventional and normal captures and military incursions on both sides, when measured against the bellwether of the usual temperature of chaos in the region, are suddenly hyped beyond all proportion by the world media. Israel's bombardment of the length and breadth of Lebanon has been characterized by its targeting of innocent civilians - including two incidents in Marwaheen and Taire where civilians were ordered to leave an area whereupon their escape vehicles were deliberately pulverized by Israeli Hellfire missiles. At their root these are the very characteristics of a terrorist state engaging in terrorist attacks upon innocent populations. Meanwhile, Hezbollah's limited response has impacted mainly military targets - with many suggesting that the often recycled pictures of damage from Hezbollah rockets betrays the notion that thousands have been fired as the Israelis claim. Some would go further and finger the Israelis for attacking their own interests to maintain a false scapegoat and justification for further evisceration in Lebanon. Israel's documented history of manufacturing phony Al-Qaeda groups to demonize the Palestinians is without question. Israel's insistence that a ground war and an advance into northern Lebanon is not out of the question could bring the Syrians and their Iranian allies into the conflict which would in turn would present the saliva-drenched Neo-Cons with their long-awaited pretext to take Assad and Ahmadinejad out of the game. This is nothing less than a cooked escalation for war. As reported by New Yorker magazine, US troops and special operations forces have been active inside Iran for over a year waiting for the right opportunity to enact destabilization tactics once the green light is given. This is simply another fuse that has been lit to ignite the order out of chaos agenda that has already turned Iraq into a hellhole only stable enough for one foundational precedent - a limitless occupation and an endless slush fund of no-bid contracts for US government affiliated corporations. In addition, tight control of oil flow and jacked-up prices to promote artificial scarcity worldwide continue to benefit blueprints laid out by oil companies many years before. Whether it stops in Lebanon or rolls into Syria - this is the orchestration of World War 3, World War 4 to Neo-Cons - if only on the level of a trial balloon to judge how events will play out when a similar hand is dealt.

Hmmm...Yeah, I know it's Op-Ed.......but....I thought if there is any truth to these quotes then we will all have to find out the hard way, unfortunatley. I have always thought that Iran will be "brought" into this one way or another.....it was just a matter of "how" I think. Scary.

UK Govt Sources Confirm War With Iran Is On Op-Ed News | July 24, 2006 by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed UK Govt Sources Confirm War With Iran Is On In the last few days, I learned from a credible and informed source that a former senior Labour government Minister, who continues to be well-connected to British military and security officials, confirms that Britain and the United States "... will go to war with Iran before the end of the year." As we now know from similar reporting prior to the invasion of Iraq, it's quite possible that the war planning may indeed change repeatedly, and the war may again be postponed. In any case, it's worth noting that the information from a former Labour Minister corroborates expert analyses suggesting that Israel, with US and British support, is deliberately escalating the cycle of retaliation to legitimize the imminent targeting of Iran before year's end. Let us remind ourselves, for instance, of US Vice President Cheney's assertions recorded on MSNBC over a year ago. He described Iran as being "right at the top of the list" of "rogue states". He continued: "One of the concerns people have is that Israel might do it without being asked... Given the fact that Iran has a stated policy that their objective is the destruction of Israel, the Israelis might well decide to act first, and let the rest of the world worry about cleaning up the diplomatic mess afterwards." But the emphasis on Israel's pre-eminent role in a prospective assault on Iran is not accurate. Israel would rather play the role of a regional proxy force in a US-led campaign. "Despite the deteriorating security situation in Iraq, the Bush Administration has not reconsidered its basic long-range policy goal in the Middle East..." reports Seymour Hersh. He quotes a former high-level US intelligence official as follows: "This is a war against terrorism, and Iraq is just one campaign. The Bush Administration is looking at this as a huge war zone. Next, we're going to have the Iranian campaign. We've declared war and the bad guys, wherever they are, are the enemy. This is the last hurrah-we've got four years, and want to come out of this saying we won the war on terrorism." Are these just the fanatical pipedreams of the neoconservative faction currently occupying (literally) the White House? Unfortunately, no. The Iraq War was one such fanatical pipedream in the late 1990s, one that Bush administration officials were eagerly ruminating over when they were actively and directly involved in the Project for a New American Century. But that particular pipedream is now a terrible, gruelling reality for the Iraqi people. Despite the glaring failures of US efforts in that country, there appears to be a serious inability to recognize the futility of attempting the same in Iran. The Monterey Institute for International Studies already showed nearly two years ago in a detailed analysis that the likely consequences of a strike on Iran by the US, Israel, or both, would be a regional conflagaration that could quickly turn nuclear, and spiral out of control. US and Israeli planners are no doubt aware of what could happen. Such a catastrophe would have irreversible ramifications for the global political economy. Energy security would be in tatters, precipitating the activation of long-standing contingency plans to invade and occupy all the major resource-rich areas of the Middle East and elsewhere (see my book published by Clairview, Behind the War on Terror for references and discussion). Such action could itself trigger responses from other major powers with fundamental interests in maintaining their own access to regional energy supplies, such as Russia and particularly China, which has huge interests in Iran. Simultaneously, the dollar-economy would be seriously undermined, most likely facing imminent collapse in the context of such crises. Which raises pertinent questions about why Britain, the US and Israel are contemplating such a scenario as a viable way of securing their interests. A glimpse of an answer lies in the fact that the post-9/11 military geostrategy of the "War on Terror" does not spring from a position of power, but rather from entirely the opposite. The global system has been crumbling under the weight of its own unsustainability for many years now, and we are fast approaching the convergence of multiple crises that are already interacting fatally as I write. The peak of world oil production, of which the Bush administration is well aware, either has already just happened, or is very close to happening. It is a pivotal event that signals the end of the Oil Age, for all intents and purposes, with escalating demand placing increasing pressure on dwindling supplies. Half the world's oil reserves are, more or less, depleted, which means that it will be technologically, geophysically, increasingly difficult to extract conventional oil. I had a chat last week with some scientists from the Omega Institute in Brighton, directed by my colleague and friend Graham Ennis, who told me eloquently and powerfully what I already knew, that while a number of climate "tipping-points" may or may not have yet been passed, we have about 10-15 years before the "tipping-point" is breached certainly and irreversibly. Breaching that point means plunging head-first into full-scale "climate catastrophe". Amidst this looming Armageddon of Nature, the dollar-denominated economy itself has been teetering on the edge of spiralling collapse for the last seven years or more. This is not idle speculation. A financial analyst as senior as Paul Volcker, Alan Greenspan's immediate predecessor as chairman of the Federal Reserve, recently confessed "that he thought there was a 75% chance of a currency crisis in the United States within five years." There appears to have been a cold calculation made at senior levels within the Anglo-American policymaking establishment: that the system is dying, but the last remaining viable means of sustaining it remains a fundamentally military solution designed to reconfigure and rehabilitate the system to continue to meet the requirements of the interlocking circuits of military-corporate power and profit. The highly respected US whistleblower, former RAND strategic analyst Daniel Ellsberg, who was Special Assistant to Assistant Secretary of Defense during the Vietnam conflict and became famous after leaking the Pentagon Papers, has already warned of his fears that in the event of "another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country, detention camps for middle-easterners and their quote 'sympathizers', critics of the President's policy and essentially the wiping-out of the Bill of Rights." So is that what all the "emergency preparedness" legislation, here in the UK as well as in the USA and in Europea, is all about? The US plans are bad enough, as Ellsberg notes, but the plans UK scene is hardly better, prompting The Guardian to describe the Civil Contingencies Bill (passed as an Act in 2004) as "the greatest threat to civil liberty that any parliament is ever likely to consider." As global crises converge over the next few years, we the people are faced with an unprecedented opportunity to use the growing awareness of the inherent inhumanity and comprehensive destructiveness of the global imperial system to establish new, viable, sustainable and humane ways of living. It was always going to happen.

It's getting pointless now......all this 'Christ' talk is getting us nowhere. Why talk about things which no answer? it's wasting time. An it's really no on topic. Although I feel this topic is going nowhere fast.

Well, I can see that I might be seen in this light but trust me I only want what is best and I don't see things like alot of people - I do so much reading of news and government documents...it would melt my brain to try and write it all down here..... I just get really frustrated & tired with people not understanding the bigger picture......we are fighting amongst ourselves and it's all going around in circles really. This is very useful (in the wider sense) to those who are fueling this "war" as it takes the heat away from them. I really don't want to be seen as the "wanker" but I really can't help it sometimes....it's like people are just ignoring some pretty important evidence.... anyway.... I'm going to have a wash....I'm all sweaty & dirty from playing footabll. ;)

Oh be quiet..... arrogant? me? How has knowing the truth and not just lapping up the propaganda become arrogance? Your exactly the same as the Americans who don't believe what your governments are doing and how the agenda was written years ago. And this "easy for u to speak when you're all the way in the UK"......really shut up. That's a not sensible comment. I'm getting sick of this. Stupid people in large numbers. I'm not like this normally (as people will tell you) but it's getting ridiculous.

Don't tell me to grow up, just because I think your views are a result of being easily convinced by wrong information. Everyone here knows I don't need to grow up and you just use this do get away from actually looking at what I said to you and doing something about it.

no - I really wasn't. I think you are a fool. That's it.

I'm not just randomly insulting you......I'm making what I think is an accurate statement. Really I am.... Definitions of fool. FOOL: a person who lacks good judgment .........a person who is gullible It's not like I'm just using foul language at you.....I was stating a point.

Come on, it's not that insulting is it? Really??

As I suspected. What a fool. I'm sorry but it's true. My your poor 'god' help you.

Please move away from "the bible".......it's a dangerous book. It's gets us nowhere.

US Rushing More Bombs To Israel Nick Miles / BBC | July 23 2006 Reports from the US suggest Washington has been asked to speed up a shipment of precision bombs sold as part of a deal with Israel last year. According to a report in the New York Times, Israel made the request after it began its air assault on Hezbollah targets in Lebanon 12 days ago. The weapons, including five-tonne laser-guided bombs, are part of a sale signed last year. Unnamed US officials say the request to speed up delivery is unusual. The disclosure is likely to anger Arab governments because of the appearance that the United States is actively aiding Israel at such a sensitive time. Precision-guided missiles are playing a key part in Israel's military strategy, which has included attempts to destroy bunkers it says are used by Hezbollah. Israel is one of the largest customers for US armaments. It also receives several billion dollars a year in direct and indirect aid from Washington.

Oh dear, I see we have trouble.

Yep, a point to whcih many people have asked me too.

All the major U.S news companies are ran by Jews.....so in the USA the Isrealis generally can do no wrong....and lots of the brain-dead TV audience there have been gradually told of the anti-semitism when people speak out....which is a LOAD OF CRAP. YOU GUYS CAN'T HIDE BEHIND "ANTI-SEMITISM" FOREVER!! Just because Isreal is RIGHTFULLY criticised for what is has done and is doing DOES NOT make it anti-semitic. GET IT? I highly doubt it you will. Anybody can look back through the news and work out that this 'war' is cleverly thought out plan by Isreal and the US. ISREAL ACTUALLY ATTACKED FIRST!! and this plan was made more than a year ago That's something which is ALWAYS left out of these news reports. I think even the corporate mainstream news today here in the UK was even realising the terrible way in which this 'war' has waged. Which supirsed me a little....well they will probably change their tune tomorrow. And it's not about being against the Isreali people who do feel bad for what is going on.....it's about the CRIMINALS in government who are leading the globalists agenda to blame Iran and any other country they can get away with blaming - so that another 'war' can be started and another middle-eastern nation can be turned to rubble. And all in the name of money and power: their documented policies, not mine. So stop winging about anti-semitism (those who are) and show some real intellect for a change.