Same here! But this is how I remember discussions here on coldplaying when I joined the forum in 2009.

Absolutely loved going through this thread, which for once didn't have an oldplay vs. newplay discussion 🤣

This is very odd looking at this thread with hindsight.

On 3/2/2005 at 2:35 AM, Eagle131 said:

no, but coldplay.com said it is to be released in June which makes me Sad. I loooove Coldplay but I don't want to wait until June until the damn thing is released! Oh well, I have to wait I gess....unless I get my hands on that leaked copy! 😛

This was posted in March. Imagine what they would've made of the MOTS rollout. 

24 minutes ago, Famous Old Painter said:

This was posted in March. Imagine what they would've made of the MOTS rollout. 

What’s this leaked copy they’re talking about?

On 5/29/2024 at 2:18 AM, JPA24 said:

Maybe one day we'll hear all these songs, would've been cool if the Untitled song was Blasphemy tho!

Untitled is one of the 70 demos of X&Y it isnt.

It's funny that people still quote this fake rumor today.

On 5/29/2024 at 11:18 AM, JPA24 said:

Maybe one day we'll hear all these songs, would've been cool if the Untitled song was Blasphemy tho!

I would love to listen to the original ideas they had, and how they changed what the album was going to be towards what it actually was.

14 hours ago, Jonan said:

It's funny that people still quote this fake rumor today.

Zero Theory isnt fake. But if it leaked it was lost after a few years. X&Y wasnt even annouce, when the tracklist leaked. It predicted songs like Fix you & Square 1. We know fix you was track 12 because somewhere else listed Fix you/Lights will guide you home.

1 hour ago, Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy said:

Zero Theory isnt fake. But if it leaked it was lost after a few years. X&Y wasnt even annouce, when the tracklist leaked. It predicted songs like Fix you & Square 1. We know fix you was track 12 because somewhere else listed Fix you/Lights will guide you home.

It didn't predict anything. The only songs that the rumor "got right" were the ones that NME revealed weeks before. Please see this link.

Edited April 17Apr 17 by Jonan

What is the zero theory lmao

3 hours ago, Jonan said:

It didn't predict anything. The only songs that the rumor "got right" were the ones that NME revealed weeks before. Please see this link.

It was archived on 2005 but the Tracklist leaked mid 2004? We know it leaked alongside the alt verison of talk & the speed of sound. Also where TF would zurich (Low demo) & Fix you/Lights will guide you home. Come from?

https://web.archive.org/web/20050526043138/http://www.hipinion.com/leaks_view.php?lid=339 I even digged out the same thing ARCHIVED IN 2005 WHICH SAYS @2004!!!!!

Edited April 17Apr 17 by Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy

1 hour ago, Letritas_deAwa said:

What is the zero theory lmao

A early rendition of X&Y

https://web.archive.org/web/20050526043138/http://www.hipinion.com/leaks_view.php?lid=339 I even digged out the same thing ARCHIVED IN 2005 WHICH SAYS @2004!!!!!

That's the copyright notice of the website, which it's safe to assume it wasn't manually changed by the owner. Every page on that link you sent has it. It has nothing to do with the actual date that page was posted. Ask yourself why it wasn't archived in 2004 like you say, and why the main fansite, Coldplaying, didn't talk about the "leak" until February 2005. Then, see there's proof that NME article is from January. Connect the dots.

We know it leaked alongside the alt verison of talk & the speed of sound

Who's we? Do you have a source for that?

6 hours ago, Jonan said:

That's the copyright notice of the website, which it's safe to assume it wasn't manually changed by the owner. Every page on that link you sent has it. It has nothing to do with the actual date that page was posted. Ask yourself why it wasn't archived in 2004 like you say, and why the main fansite, Coldplaying, didn't talk about the "leak" until February 2005. Then, see there's proof that NME article is from January. Connect the dots.

Who's we? Do you have a source for that?

People talked about a bunch of alterative verisons leaking alongside that alt of talk. We know there not talking about alterative mixes because the speed of sound one just has a different piano, and people were talking about "OH THIS IS BETTER" which its just a small change.

Zero theory was scrapped in early 2004, then onward they made 60+ demos and it became a fuckin mess. Then the setlist leaked in 2004. Why would the copyright say @2004 if its mid 2005?

Edited April 17Apr 17 by Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy

13 hours ago, Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy said:

People talked about a bunch of alterative verisons leaking alongside that alt of talk.

Source?

13 hours ago, Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy said:

We know there not talking about alterative mixes because the speed of sound one just has a different piano, and people were talking about "OH THIS IS BETTER" which its just a small change.

Source?

13 hours ago, Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy said:

Zero theory was scrapped in early 2004, then onward they made 60+ demos and it became a fuckin mess

Source?

13 hours ago, Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy said:

Then the setlist leaked in 2004. Why would the copyright say @2004 if its mid 2005?

You're paying attention to an irrelevant detail. See this link, some leaks posted in 2005 with full dates, for a page archived in 2005 too, but the copyright says 2004. Why are you exclusively relying on an outdated copyright label? https://web.archive.org/web/20050622054509/http://www.hipinion.com/leaks_list.php
There isn't a single archived page from 2004 that mentions Zero Theory. There is no reference to Zero Theory on the internet prior to the NME interview, in which the actual titles of X&Y were revealed – precisely the only song titles that the "leak" got right. And, ultimately, there are no sources to back up any of your claims, so please provide some. I would be delighted to be proven wrong.

24 minutes ago, Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy said:

I fuckin give up your just a idiot

I had already been warned about you, but I wasn't expecting an insult! It's good to know you're just making things up. Stick to your strange nonsense about Guy and leave the serious conversation to the grown-ups.

9 hours ago, Jonan said:

I had already been warned about you, but I wasn't expecting an insult! It's good to know you're just making things up. Stick to your strange nonsense about Guy and leave the serious conversation to the grown-ups.

Warned by who? ColdplayUT? whatever man, not like one of the demos relating to this verison of X&Y leaked.

20 hours ago, Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy said:

I fuckin give up your just a idiot

That is not very believe in love of you...

23 hours ago, Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy said:

I fuckin give up your just a idiot

Buddy take it easy, no need to insult someone when your info is just blatant bs. Just accept your loss and continue with your life.

On 4/18/2026 at 12:46 AM, Jonan said:

Source?

Source?

Source?

You're paying attention to an irrelevant detail. See this link, some leaks posted in 2005 with full dates, for a page archived in 2005 too, but the copyright says 2004. Why are you exclusively relying on an outdated copyright label? https://web.archive.org/web/20050622054509/http://www.hipinion.com/leaks_list.php
There isn't a single archived page from 2004 that mentions Zero Theory. There is no reference to Zero Theory on the internet prior to the NME interview, in which the actual titles of X&Y were revealed – precisely the only song titles that the "leak" got right. And, ultimately, there are no sources to back up any of your claims, so please provide some. I would be delighted to be proven wrong.

I'd like to apologize about my behaviour. I was off my meds and it resulted in my being rude and im sorry for that.

What i think happened, is some dude heard about the annouced album whilst also being a insider. Asking people related to the production of the album and got a few names relating to the album. Zero Theory wasnt even a thing by 2005 it was scrapped early or mid 2004. Someone probably gave said insider the old album name alongside a few demos names (maybe something more)

There are also 2 different pages relating to X&Y When pressing the site's logo taking me to another page another X&Y Page featuring a different tracklist more akin to the final one was shown. HOWEVER it wasnt archived. It wasnt called Zero Theory.

Chris also stated the album restarted 2 time times before we got the X&Y we had.

Songs like Fix You & Til Kingdom come has existed since 2003 its possible Fix you existed in 2002 due to chris possibly making it up on the spot to cheer gwenethy palthrow up. There's too much of a lack of demos & leaked material to even consider Zero Theory fake, A big gap between 2003-2007 of nearly nothing leaked. We only have X&Y Untitled from 2004 during the mass grind in mid to late 2004.

Im not a expert but these songs like fury blashpemy deja vu are piano memos just stated to exist.

We also dont know when the ZT Tracklist was posted it could had been before or after WE DONT KNOW.

We also have people on reddit 7 years ago talking about X&Y demos and how a speed of sound demo sounded better?????? We dont know what thats about


BTW heres the possible real tracklist for Zero theory from late 2003 - early 2004

1. Square/1

2. Talk

3. Something ain't right

4. Fury

5. Til Kingdom come

6. Blasphemy

7. What if

8. Echo my name

9. Deja Vu

10. Speed of sound

11. The Hardest Part

12. Zurich (Low Demo)

13. Gravity 2003

14. Ladder to the sun 2003

15. Lights will guide you home/ Fix you Demo

Edited April 21Apr 21 by Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy

On 4/21/2026 at 3:29 AM, Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy said:

I'd like to apologize about my behaviour. I was off my meds and it resulted in my being rude and im sorry for that.

All good. No hard feelings.

On 4/21/2026 at 3:29 AM, Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy said:

There's too much of a lack of demos & leaked material to even consider Zero Theory fake

Well, you could say the exact same thing about considering it true. If there's no evidence...
I still believe that the rumor is unfounded, but you have every right to look into it.
I guess you are part of this new Discord archive, so all I ask is that you guys back up your research with verifiable facts, and everything will go great.
Best regards.

On 4/18/2026 at 9:57 PM, OKC said:

That is not very believe in love of you...

Believe in wronguy & love

All good. No hard feelings.

23 hours ago, Jonan said:

Well, you could say the exact same thing about considering it true. If there's no evidence...
I still believe that the rumor is unfounded, but you have every right to look into it.
I guess you are part of this new Discord archive, so all I ask is that you guys back up your research with verifiable facts, and everything will go great.
Best regards.

We think X&Y Untitled is blasphemy due to the biblical tones by the drums trumpets, relating to the title.

Anyone want a Cancelled Plants VS. Zombies pilot script.

On 4/21/2026 at 6:40 PM, Jonan said:

All good. No hard feelings.

Well, you could say the exact same thing about considering it true. If there's no evidence...
I still believe that the rumor is unfounded, but you have every right to look into it.
I guess you are part of this new Discord archive, so all I ask is that you guys back up your research with verifiable facts, and everything will go great.
Best regards.

After doing a bit of research ive found snippets from 2003 of them recording 3 of the tracks on the zero theory tracklist. Prooving production didnt start in 2004. Due to the bands apperances matching them after september 2003. Ive found a video prooving they began work on zero theory/X&Y at late 2003. We even have demo snippets relating to What if & Square/1 & Til kingdom come 3/5 tracks on the zero theory tracklists however we think that X&Y untitled was from the zero theory sessions being blasphemy althrough we cant confirm that.

Video: https://youtu.be/28N5vo8Ybwk?si=NQYYYHaybsUU21tS

I will update you if anyone else wants to help research Zero theory and possibly preserve the remnants of this verison of X&Y Please DM on discord im in the car kids discord server.

BTW White shadows is one of the surviving songs from the 2004 sessions

Edited April 26Apr 26 by Pj_The_Creator_Of_Wronguy