pretty clever stuff! I guess coldplay likes to challenge our intelligence (a good thing)

i got it now. had to read it twice.

well as we all see the big story on the home page, I would just like to say this was truly a team effort. I think 2 or 3 people here really made key contributions into the cracking of the code, and I just want to say well done everyone! I think we really shocked them by doing it so fast.

congrats, damn, at first it was complicated, but now it all makes sense.

 

in the words of samuel jackson "you're one smart mother******"

Wooooow. Amazing. Simply amazing. How did you guys find out Coldplay was using baudot code?

Well done ! So amazing :o

Wooooow. Amazing. Simply amazing. How did you guys find out Coldplay was using baudot code?

 

Yeah Wayne, how did you ever think, "Ooooh, maybe its written in Baudot Code! EUREKA!!!!" :cool:

Not to be a party pooper

 

I think they messed up the &...

 

Shouldn't there be another block in the second column from the top in the third row for X & Y???

 

like:

 

1 1 0 1

0 1 1 0

1 0 0 1

1 1 1 0

1 1 1 1

 

Feel free to call me a nerd:)

yes, it should if they followed the version of the baudot code that i posted a link to. i think that people have said another version of the code doesn't even allow for an '&', so it's likely that they are just using a variant of the baudot code.

 

(or they messed up :stunned: )

there are two versions of the code, and in one the middle composes a 9 and in the other it composes a - so there are two versions of the code, one newer and one older.

Wooooow. Amazing. Simply amazing. How did you guys find out Coldplay was using baudot code?

 

Yeah Wayne, how did you ever think, "Ooooh, maybe its written in Baudot Code! EUREKA!!!!" :cool:

 

not really - i'd not heard of baudot code before :lol: to cut a long story short, i started working out ascii codes using 10-bits but quickly changed to five bits (pairs of colours, e.g. black and grey, representing a single bit rather than two). This gave D = 9 , E = 1, F = 13 and so on. having three letters (D, E, F) that were next to each other in the alphabet was a great help because it looked likely (from the above numbers) that there was no obvious logical pattern to the numbers that the letters represented. So, i thought, it must've been some specific 5-bit encoding scheme. The good old internet gave me some stuff to sift through on various 5-bit encoding schemes, eventually turning up Baudot. A quick run through all 10 letters we currently have matched up and therefore baudot was probably the one. The deciphering of the secret gig wrist band to discover LIVE was ultimate proof. I felt well smug :smug: :lol:

 

Props to owenrees though for spotting the dashes matching up to letters !

 

As regards the & in X&Y, it takes up two columns (the first being the figure shift, the second the character), it's been pointed out that it's not an ampersand. It is actually a hypen, giving X-Y. I suppose that's either as they intended or they're using some slight variation on baudot encoding that gives a different bit pattern for &.

 

Good stuff though innit ? :)

ya, but dont you kinda have the feeling of.....could it be that easy? or whats next? you know it was a challenge and we figured it out, but now im just sitting here thinking how brilliant the covers are now! But now what? lol I thought this was going to be a global puzzle to send everyone into a craze? well it took wayne and I a portion of a day! Anyway, it is great, and a great idea by Coldplay to use this!

Wooooow. Amazing. Simply amazing. How did you guys find out Coldplay was using baudot code?

 

Yeah Wayne, how did you ever think, "Ooooh, maybe its written in Baudot Code! EUREKA!!!!" :cool:

 

not really - i'd not heard of baudot code before :lol: to cut a long story short, i started working out ascii codes using 10-bits but quickly changed to five bits (pairs of colours, e.g. black and grey, representing a single bit rather than two). This gave D = 9 , E = 1, F = 13 and so on. having three letters (D, E, F) that were next to each other in the alphabet was a great help because it looked likely (from the above numbers) that there was no obvious logical pattern to the numbers that the letters represented. So, i thought, it must've been some specific 5-bit encoding scheme. The good old internet gave me some stuff to sift through on various 5-bit encoding schemes, eventually turning up Baudot. A quick run through all 10 letters we currently have matched up and therefore baudot was probably the one. The deciphering of the secret gig wrist band to discover LIVE was ultimate proof. I felt well smug :smug: :lol:

 

Props to owenrees though for spotting the dashes matching up to letters !

 

As regards the & in X&Y, it takes up two columns (the first being the figure shift, the second the character), it's been pointed out that it's not an ampersand. It is actually a hypen, giving X-Y. I suppose that's either as they intended or they're using some slight variation on baudot encoding that gives a different bit pattern for &.

 

Good stuff though innit ? :)

 

Very smart! :D

I think there is jus but some sites list the bits backwards... I noticed this when I was trying to figure out the &.

i'm an idiot - i've been reading the - bit pattern back to front and based on baudot, coldplay's & does actually (as others have said,map to a 9 and not a hypen - :dozey: )

and well correct me if i'm wrong, but you said the colors were of no significance. like i realice the baudot code is based on 1's and 0's. and if thats true and then if the colors don't relate to the baudot code portion, then maybe since they do also hold true to being the same for same letters and such, maybe it's possible for them to hold within themselves their own unique code, but then thats going a way bit too far with this :rolleyes: i should just stop i guess i just like the colors and wanted them to be a part too...

i;m not convinced a mistake has been made with regards to the & - i suspect we've just not got the right variation of the original Baudot.

 

Another thing to mention is that everything sussed out so far is not the original Baudot code but later variation developed by Donald Murray in 1901 and is also the same as ITA2. Both of these tables do still give a 9 for 00011 though :/

and well correct me if i'm wrong' date=' but you said the colors were of no significance. like i realice the baudot code is based on 1's and 0's. and if thats true and then if the colors don't relate to the baudot code portion, then maybe since they do also hold true to being the same for same letters and such, maybe it's possible for them to hold within themselves their own unique code, but then thats going a way bit too far with this :rolleyes: i should just stop i guess i just like the colors and wanted them to be a part too...[/quote']

 

i like the colours they've chosen myself - think it looks well good :) maybe there is something secret held in theree - after all they've worked the make trade fair logo into it :cool:

well get crackin wayne :P it's yet another code for ya! :lol:

Cool, so cool! :)

 

Before the artwork was released someone wrote on the forum that they hoped it wasn't just a big "X&Y" on the front.

 

Well it turns out it is, but not in the way we expected!

 

Seeing as the colours are unrelated to the actual code, maybe the put the MTF logo in there just for fun? :D

well get crackin wayne :P it's yet another code for ya! :lol:

 

i'm working on it, i'm working on it :lol:

this is great!!! cheers guys!

Cool, so cool! :)

 

Before the artwork was released someone wrote on the forum that they hoped it wasn't just a big "X&Y" on the front.

 

Well it turns out it is, but not in the way we expected!

 

Seeing as the colours are unrelated to the actual code, maybe the put the MTF logo in there just for fun? :D

 

that was me!

and well correct me if i'm wrong' date=' but you said the colors were of no significance. like i realice the baudot code is based on 1's and 0's. and if thats true and then if the colors don't relate to the baudot code portion, then maybe since they do also hold true to being the same for same letters and such, maybe it's possible for them to hold within themselves their own unique code, but then thats going a way bit too far with this :rolleyes: i should just stop i guess i just like the colors and wanted them to be a part too...[/quote']

 

well the colours certainly look great, but I mean it has been mentioned before that they show a definite transition from the top to the bottom. This is also another pattern, but also gives more of a visual effect. Really this cover that at first looked so simple (like apple could have drawn it) turns out to be a true work of art, so complex with so many meanings!

yea if it wasn't for the blasted purple and blue being in that order purple above blue and then having gray in there at all i would say it has somethign to so with like the whole wavelength spectrum, cause it goes in that order of how you split light up and how the colors go in a rainbow. but blast that purple and blue :smash: i just dunno :/