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Make Peace,no war?!

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Hmmmmmm.............well........I hope you'll all get what I want to say now:

 

Is it possible to solve world problems without war?

 

Yeah....I mean.....seriously........today in ouzr religion lesson in school.....we talked about things which have to be made sure iof you want to start a war.....yeah really true........I mean which "justify" a war.......those points were:

 

1.You have to be sure that NO innocent people will die!

2.You have to be sure that you can have peace after the war in the country you want to attack.......I mean that you reach your aims there

(not like america who attacked Iraq and after while realised that they can't make it alone and needed help from europe etc....)

3.You have to be sure that you have all the resources to make fight in a war.....

4.You have to be sure that the resources of the other country are the same in relation to your resources!

5.The war has to be the last way out of the problem.....we called it:Ultime ratio>>>War as the last chance!or something like that..............

 

 

Well.............after we talked about this topic in religious education.........i was a bit shocked..............but then we came to the solution.........that a war can never be justified even if those condition are fulfilled........

that's because surely you are not allowed to kill others.....even if they are guilty..........................

somehow all this confused me........and I came to the question:

 

Is it possible to solve world problems without war?

 

I mean if we even talk in religious education about how to start a war........or which conditions have to be fulfilled to justify it....................

Of course.Spread pacifism around

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Well.................somehow I feel a bit erm......joshed now......but it's ok....I thought maybe an interesting thread in this lounge would be good.......... :snore:

i got the point...if you want to start a war,you should have x or y...

 

but why our World couldn't exist without wars?

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Well......................maybe this question sounds dumb first......but erm..........we talked about it even in religious education....don't know.....for me it seemed as if the world couldn't exist without war........or maybe to say it better.

You can't solve problems without war!

 

Maybe that's the better question:

 

Can you solve the world problems without war?

Of course we can...Wtf....Do you really think that killing ppl is the solve of all problems? :sad2:

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I do not really think so......I'm torn now somehow........that's why I asked the question, man!

what about revolutions? we have a lot of them in the history...

nowadays people have bigger problems than all these "religious wars",the number of our natural sources (oil,water...) is decreasing with every day... we should care about these problems...and not like GWB does...

,mhhh ... that's a diffult topic ...

 

well, i kinda agree with you,julia

 

what if there was no 2nd world war? i mean. what happened if that hitler thing didn't come to an end??

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Well......................and what if iran do not want to talk anymore?And build their atomic bomb?And so on..................shall we not care about this?

exactly ...

of course ... some wars are just ridiculous but some of them ... you know ... some countries don't get it and don't want to cooperate!

Well......................and what if iran do not want to talk anymore?And build their atomic bomb?And so on..................shall we not care about this?

 

and why do you ask : how could our world exist without wars then?

 

THEY do care,but in diplomatical way

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Well.................if we really take iran as an example now:

 

let's say they wouldn't want to talk anymore..........what would be the best solution?

Sarting a war?Risking an atomic bomb attack?But where are the alternatives?

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I edited the question.......I noticed that I asked it in a wrong way.......

and who would start this war? NATO?

 

we are living in 21st century and not in 14th...

Is it possible to solve world problems without war?

 

it is possible

 

the reason why people started wars is "you have power,but you want to have more"...it's not really a problem,we can solve the real problems in other ways,but not with wars

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Yeah....well.....we talked about this power thing aswell..............haha....and the thing with the sarting war.........oh man.....we also talked about this and came to the solution that it is of course not as easy as in 14th century.............I wanted to say ermmmmmmmm........................if some country starts a war..............well...there are many wars started today...........it is not as if there were no wars in this world.........so if a war will be started!

revolutions...see Ukraine 2005,people did a revolution without war,blood,guns and they reached their aims< but it's only possible inside of country

and i still think that the war isn't the solution for the global problems,we are smart enough to use the diplomacy

Of course its possible, but only in theory, in practice, looking at our world leaders today, are they really prepared to give up military action and risk the appearance of their entire country looking weak and vulnerable?

 

Military, brute force, is what country's base their entire power to. It's like being a better fighter then someone, it doesn't make you a better guy, it doesnt make you cooler, sexier, smarter, but at the end of the day, you can knock him on his ass, and therefore all the attributes he has have faded because you beat him down.

 

Thats what the military is all about, and although countries may be able to sort things out without force, it will always come down to the bottom line, which is violence.

 

I think as we make surgers forward with such things as communicating without being there, satellites, internet, we are becoming a more intelligent race. This wont make life any less complicated for us as beings, as instead of fighting wars with fists, guns or nuclear weapons, we will be fighting with hacking and screwing up world economies that would be just as painful as dropping an A Bomb.

^I agree with Reilly completely. Took the words out of my mouth.

Really?! Haha, I thought nobody thought like that.

 

Wicked.

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