September 17, 200619 yr And there's a project here to legalize some rights for the gay couples, but no marrige... So people what's the situation in your countries? in Portugal: some people say they have no prejudice against gay people but they do have and some other say in your face that being gay means your ideas are completly messed up! it's very very rare to see gay couples showing their love in the street...there are some gay parades now and then but nothing too big i think...the marriage between people of the same genre is not legalized....and it won't be for some years i think...i don't feel people here are ready for that yet!
September 17, 200619 yr Author square_1...do you prefer a gender more than the other? what's the gender? :P EDIT: true Nicole...but gay people are still afraid...i don't blame them...lots of people still have prejudices about gay people hej LILI (:P) yes.. I know.. maybe in one time in the future that could be different and all ppl can be tolerant! maybe its just a dream of me... in Portugal: some people say they have no prejudice against gay people but they do have and some other say in your face that being gay means your ideas are completly messed up! it's very very rare to see gay couples showing their love in the street...there are some gay parades now and then but nothing too big i think...the marriage between people of the same genre is not legalized....and it won't be for some years i think...i don't feel people here are ready for that yet! yes, I know that well that ppl say something other than they mean... well same genre marriages are just in a few lands legalized... but they are many were gays can make a copartnership. I see that in portugal they are also allowed: I dunno that in some lands you can get the death penalty for being homosexual... I'm really shocked :stunned: explain to the colors: light green: homosexual marriages allowed dark green: homosexual copartnerships allowed gray: no homosexual copartnerships Homosexuality actionable: yellow: little sentence orange: big sentence light red: determinate life sentence dark red: death penalty
September 17, 200619 yr Yeah tolerance is nice and all, but what about this: BC Parents Will Have to Lie to Keep Kids out of Gay Advocacy Curriculum by Hilary White VANCOUVER, September 13, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – BC’s Province newspaper, reports that parents in BC may not be allowed to opt their children out of school programmes promoting the homosexual lifestyle under the rubric of “respecting diversity”. Surrey School Board Trustee, Heather Stillwell, predicted that the result of the legislation, denounced as coercive by activists, will be parents coming up with creative ways to keep their children out of the classes. “Every year,” Stillwell told the Province, “there are lots of personal arrangements made between teachers and parents to let kids opt out of certain parts of classes that might not be helpful to those students," Stilwell said. “This ... is going to take away that freedom. Parents are going to be forced to make a lot of daytime dental appointments to free their kids.” “What it will force them to do is lie,” Stilwell told reporters. “There’ll be a loss of confidence in the community.” As a result of a Human Rights Commission case brought by two homosexual men, a “married” gay couple called Murray and Peter Corren, the two men have been granted an extraordinary say in all school curricula from kindergarten to grade 12 in British Columbia schools. Their role is to ensure that all courses are inclusive and gay-friendly. Although even government spokesmen were unable to say clearly what role the men will play, they two activists are likely to be in an exclusive position to decide what material and whose “experts” are consulted in the government’s curriculum review process. The Education Ministry has ordered schools to comply with the Alternative Delivery Policy that outlines the reasons parents may withdraw children from school lessons. The restriction of those reasons to exclude any homosexual advocacy was part of the deal worked out between the government and the two men. Stillwell is warning government that the requirements will put parents into an untenable conflict over their duty to protect their children. “A strict application would say the teacher can’t (allow children to opt out), and we know that’s not right,” Stilwell said. “All of this time, we have made accommodations for parents and students. (The ministry’s) not looking at the wider ramifications.” Murray Corren called for the new K-12 curriculum to include, “Queer history and historical figures, the presence of positive queer role models -- past and present -- the contributions made by queers to various epochs, societies and civilizations and legal issues relating to (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered) people, same-sex marriage and adoption.” The development imposes yet another extraordinary exception from normal rules because it has been insisted upon by gay activists. Homosexual activists have won special exceptions from laws regarding public nudity, sexual solicitation, public sex acts, group sex in their so-called "bath houses", normal medical safeguards to contain the transmission of dangerous communicable diseases, the posting of sexually explicit billboards and much more. B.C. children are certain to be gradually desensitized by the across the board school curricula changes to become accepting of these practices and other aspects of the highly sexualized gay culture. Corren objected that allowing parents to remove their children from the classes will defeat the whole object of the exercise. "There's no point in us making the curriculum more queer-positive if people can take their kids out," Peter Corren told the Province yesterday. “This is the public education system. The School Act is quite clear ... religion does not play a role in what is taught. We just want the policy to be followed.”
September 17, 200619 yr ivri lider, the singer i like, is gay and before he came out of the closet he wrote this song called "Mary Forever" and it's soooo freaky. It's in female verbs- like a woman is saying it... and it's about a woman who hits on a guy and they end up sleeping together, and by the next day he realises the girl is actually a dude.... and no one knew or even thought back then that he's gay... but i love that song, it's so cool
September 17, 200619 yr yea... it's a freaky song :stunned: he has a couple of songs he sings in english... in a new english site... here: http://www.ivrilider.com/english
September 18, 200619 yr hej LILI (:P) yes.. I know.. maybe in one time in the future that could be different and all ppl can be tolerant! maybe its just a dream of me...: you remembered my name!! did you had a tattoo??? :laugh4: that's a good dream!! ;) it's just bad that is just a dream and not reality already!!! yes, I know that well that ppl say something other than they mean... well same genre marriages are just in a few lands legalized... but they are many were gays can make a copartnership. I see that in portugal they are also allowed: what exactly is meant by compartnerships? people of the same gender living together?
September 18, 200619 yr Balding finally steps out with lesbian lover When former Cambridge Union president and the BBC's face of racing, Clare Balding, arrived at a star-studded film premiere with a filly all of her own, it was to the surprise of the racing world. But after living in a £1 million Victorian house in west London with her lesbian lover, Radio 4 newsreader Alice Arnold, for three years, the pair have decided to formalise their relationship. Clare and Alice 'married' at the weekend in a civil partnership ceremony which was followed by a reception for 120 guests at Chiswick House, an 18th century Palladian villa a few minutes' walk from their home. The couple happily agreed to pose up on the steps of Chiswick House before welcoming guests on Friday evening. Invitations asked guests to dress 'glamorous but fun'. And by the look of this photograph, Alice came 'glamorous' while Clare chose 'fun'. A close inspection of this picture shows a sparkling silver band on Alice's wedding finger. The reception was attended by friends from the BBC and family members including Clare's father Ian, the ex-racing trainer of the Queen and her uncle Toby, also a prominent trainer. Ian and his wife, Lady Emma, interrupted a golfing holiday in Ireland to attend the nuptials. Former public school headgirl Clare, 35, went public with her relationship with Alice when they stepped out at the London premiere of racing film Seabiscuit in 2003. Alice, 42, is the former partner of comedienne and radio presenter Sandi Toksvig. When Alice and Clare 'came out' about their relationship, it caused ripples of surprise, not in the broadcasting world where the couple both work but in the tight-knit, conservative racing circles from which Clare comes. Of the weekend's nuptial, a family friend said: 'The Baldings are a close family and have backed Clare to the hilt in terms of her coming out as a lesbian, but it has not been the easiest of roads for them. It's not what they would have chosen for their daughter and it has taken a little time to come to terms with, but they like Alice enormously. 'Clare has told her parents that the reason she is anxious to formalise the relationship is to ensure that Alice is provided for if anything were to happen to her. 'Alice doesn't have much money of her own, while Clare has made a lot from her TV presenting, plus after-dinner speaking and journalism, and has some family money too. It's also important to her that those close to her witness her making a private declaration of her commitment.'
September 19, 200619 yr Author you remembered my name!! did you had a tattoo??? :laugh4: that's a good dream!! ;) it's just bad that is just a dream and not reality already!!! yes I've got a small one on my arm :P well how did Martin Luther King said? "I have a dream..." :wink3: what exactly is meant by compartnerships? people of the same gender living together? Homosexual couples can register their relationship. That should make that homosexual couples have the same right than the other couples..... but it isn't so... :angry: the adoption isn't allowed for us... well it's juridical forbidden... and they can't take the same name.. just apprend after the own name. In switzerland this law is going to be aktiv on 1 January 2007 so is the law in Switzerland. I dunno if it is different in other lands with compartnerships
September 19, 200619 yr yes I've got a small one on my arm :P well how did Martin Luther King said? "I have a dream..." :wink3: Homosexual couples can register their relationship. That should make that homosexual couples have the same right than the other couples..... but it isn't so... :angry: the adoption isn't allowed for us... well it's juridical forbidden... and they can't take the same name.. just apprend after the own name. In switzerland this law is going to be aktiv on 1 January 2007 so is the law in Switzerland. I dunno if it is different in other lands with compartnerships hey nicole!! :) :lol: it's good you have the dream! maybe one day it will become reality!!!;) i have no idea how compartnerships are allowed here....i don't think they can register their relationship...and how can a relationship be registered not by marriage?? i thought that was the only way! :confused: :huh:
September 19, 200619 yr Author hey nicole!! :) :lol: it's good you have the dream! maybe one day it will become reality!!!;) i have no idea how compartnerships are allowed here....i don't think they can register their relationship...and how can a relationship be registered not by marriage?? i thought that was the only way! :confused: :huh: it's called "partnership law" and here in switzerland its very new.. the poll was last Juni and how I said It will be activ on 1 January 2007
September 19, 200619 yr it's called "partnership law" and here in switzerland its very new.. the poll was last Juni and how I said It will be activ on 1 January 2007 oh ok :)...i don't think there is nothing similar here...
September 19, 200619 yr I dunno... well I think our "partnership law" is discriminated... well yeah...because it's not like heterosexual people...it's a compartnership not a marriage...
September 19, 200619 yr Author yes... I heard that some homosexual ppl prefer to do not a compartnership
September 19, 200619 yr I dunno... well I think our "partnership law" is discriminated... Why so?Would you prefer to live in Saudi Arabia? I don't think it's discriminatory, because marriage is a union between man and a woman for a reason, and that reason is procreation.And no matter how much we try to be politicly correct, but a child needs maternal and paternal figure in his life, even scientists agree about that.
September 19, 200619 yr Why so?Would you prefer to live in Saudi Arabia? I don't think it's discriminatory, because marriage is a union between man and a woman for a reason, and that reason is procreation.And no matter how much we try to be politicly correct, but a child needs maternal and paternal figure in his life, even scientists agree about that. yeah i'm sure Nicole doesn't prefer that... i disagree: i think marriage doesn't mean children...it's an union between two people that want to spend their lifes together (if i think you need to marry someone to spend your life with the person you love?? no, i don't...marriage is a paper)...i kinda agree about a child needing those two figures in life... so: i still think is discrimination that two people of the same gender can't get married (tottaly respect your opinion of course :))
September 20, 200619 yr Well It doesn't have to mean children, but in most cases it does.Because without procreation, you aren't contributing to society, with less kids there'll be less people to spend money, less people to get a job, needless to say your nation will shrink in size, and in the worst-case scenario without kids humans would extinct. Don't think I'm attacking homo people here, but this is just common sense.
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