i doubt that. you cant have the same goal and reach it by different thought' date=' when u both present the exact same argument, almost identical to one another[/quote']

 

 

No,you totally wrong.Because everyone have different ways to achieve the goal

Now backing to the topic.

 

What you know huntjd about The Promise Land?

This section called NEWS and sport:rolleyes:

 

The question again.

 

What anyone knows about The Promise Land?

 

The promised land is a land full of abduant mako, which just flows from the ground so no need for a costly mako reactor.

 

However Sephiroth and Shinra are after the promised land for there own evil deeds. Its upto Cloud Strife and co to stop them and save the world.

The Zionism Terror History

 

Hebron Massacres

 

1- The Al-Haram Al-Ibrahimi Massacre

 

 

Now it's 12 years ago on this massacre this story began on Feb 1994 in the Purim day [ Jewish feast ] with a man called Baruch Goldstein who killed 29 worshippers and wounded 125 in a shooting attack. Baruch entered Cave of the Patriarchs wearing his army uniform with the insignia of rank. He then opened fire at Muslimskilling 29 and wounding 125. Mosque guard Mohammad Suleiman Abu Saleh said he thought that Goldstein was trying to kill as many peopleas possible and described how there were bodies and blood everywhere. Rioting immediately followed the shooting, leading in the following week to the deaths of another 60 Palestinians and 5 Israelis. It's worth to mention that Baruch trained on the terror action in the terror movement called Kach.

 

 

The Israeli arm helped him: No on can exemption the Israeli army from that because when Baruch started fired the worhippers, they were run to the door of the Mosque but they found it closed in spit of this door never locked before and when the worshippers screamed asked for a help the soldiers from the army prevent the people to enter the Mosque and help the other. Many eyewitnesses said that the number of the soldiers at this night was a few. Also the Jewish people who lived there were always threatened the worshippers by saying [We will kill you and you will see what we will do ] and many eyewitnesses said that was a Israeli soldiers supplied him with guns.

 

He a Saint for the Jewish in Hebron: After he died the Israeli people buried him and in the tombstone you can read that. [Here lies the saint, Dr. Baruch Kappel Goldstein, blessed be the memory of the righteous and holy man, may the Lord avenge his blood, who devoted his soul to the Jews, Jewish religion and Jewish land. His hands are innocent and his heart is pure. He was killed as a martyrof God on the 14th of Adar, Purim in the year 5754 (1994).

 

 

 

2-El-Dawayma Massacre

 

 

29 / 10 / 1948 after the worshippers finished from their pray the Israeli soldiers entered the village and surrounded it and killed hundreds of old people and the youth and children of the village by smashed their heads and shooting them and extortion the women and they forced the people of the village to carry the dead bodies and buried it. In this massacre died almost 580

 

UN observer team: After days from the massacre, observers team from the UN reach to the village and they asked to enter the Mosque but the Israeli soldiers refused it but the team smelled a bad smell from the Mosque [because the Israeli soldiers gathered the people and burned them in the Mosque] but the observer team notice smoke came out from the Mosque and when they get closer from the Mosque the get sure there are a burned bodies inside but the team banned to complete the investigation. But the observer team send a report to the UN said that [We are sure that was a massacre happened here and the smell which we smelled was for a burned bodies]

 

Benny Morris: The Israel historian Benny Morris said that the massacre done by order from the Israeli government

Hakham: There is a Hakham said that the prejudice which we make the Palestinians suffered from it, it's more than the prejudice which we suffered

People who died at this massacre:

First two days: 580

Who tried to get his stuff at night in secret: 110

injure: 8 [because they are make sure that's no one still alive]

Prisoner: 9 died

And of course its always Jews killing Muslims, Muslims never hurt anyone..:uhoh2:

 

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

 

http://clarityandresolve.com/archives/2006/09/while_were_hand.php

 

“Why do we always have to say sorry and they never do?” Aznar told a conference in Washington on “global threats” on Friday. ...

 

Referring to the Moorish conquest of much of the Iberian Peninsula from the eighth to the 15th century, Aznar said: “It is interesting to note that while a lot of people in the world are asking the Pope to apologise for his speech, I have never heard a Muslim say sorry for having conquered Spain and occupying it for eight centuries.”

 

As one comment says:

"how can they blame others, if there hands are themselves in blood?"

And of course its always Jews killing Muslims, Muslims never hurt anyone..:uhoh2:

 

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

 

http://clarityandresolve.com/archives/2006/09/while_were_hand.php

 

“Why do we always have to say sorry and they never do?” Aznar told a conference in Washington on “global threats” on Friday. ...

 

Referring to the Moorish conquest of much of the Iberian Peninsula from the eighth to the 15th century, Aznar said: “It is interesting to note that while a lot of people in the world are asking the Pope to apologise for his speech, I have never heard a Muslim say sorry for having conquered Spain and occupying it for eight centuries.”

 

As one comment says:

"how can they blame others, if there hands are themselves in blood?"

 

 

I'm astonished how the ex- PM of Spain didn't know the history or maybe he know it but he tryuing to change it.

 

If anyone read the history, he will find that the Muslims didn't invaded the Iberian Peninsula but the entered it on the demand from one of it's people called Julian, count of Ceuta after Roderic had impregnated his doughter.

 

He also forgotten how the Muslims changed the Iberian Peninsula society from ignorant society to intellectual society and how the all science and arts got prosperity and this time called the Golden Age, he forgotten to mention that the Jews lived their best times under the Muslims control and got high ranked.The Muslims bulided an astonish buldings still stand to show the prosperity which achieved under the Muslims rule.

 

It's needs a thread to explain the Iberian Peninsula under the Muslims rule

Well Ceuta is in North Africa. Julian changed sides and fought against the Visigoths. It was a war. He needed allies. Like what the Romans did with the Goths in 376AD

 

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Ceuta+

 

In 710, as Muslim armies approached the city, its Visigothic governor Julian (also described as "king of the Ghomara") changed sides and urged them to invade Spain (for personal reasons, according to the Arab chroniclers; the Visigothic King Roderick is said to have mistreated his daughter). Under the leadership of Berber general Tariq ibn Ziyad, Ceuta was used as a prime staging ground for an assault on Visigoth-ruled Iberia soon after.

 

After Julian's death the Arabs took direct control of the city; this was resented by the surrounding indigenous Berber tribes, who destroyed it in a Kharijite rebellion led by Maysara al-Haqir in 740. It lay waste until refounded in the 9th century by Majakas, chief of the Majkasa Berber tribe, who started the short-lived dynasty of the Banu Isam. Under his great-grandson they paid allegiance to the Idrisids (briefly); the dynasty finally ended when he abdicated in favour of the Umayyad Caliph of Cordoba Abd ar-Rahman III an-Nasir in 931. Chaos ensued with the fall of the Umayyad caliphate in 1031, but eventually it was taken over by the Almoravids in 1084, and again used as a base from which to invade Spain.

 

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Julian,+count+of+Ceuta

 

 

The next summer Julian provided the ships to carry Muslim troops across to Europe. Julian also briefed Tariq, their general. Then the latter left Julian behind among the merchants and crossed the Strait of Hercules with a force of some 1,700 men. He landed at Gibraltar on April 30, 711, and thus began the Islamic conquest of Iberia.

 

Later, in the Battle of Guadalete on July 19, Roderic's army of around 25,000 men was defeated by Tariq's force of approxamately 7,000, largely due to a reversal of fortune when the wings commanded by Roderic's relatives Sisbert and Osbert deserted or switched sides—which legend would later attribute to a deliberate plan developed by Julian.

 

Afterwards Julian was apparently granted the lands he was promised by the Muslims but, as the story goes, lived on friendless and full of guilt for having become a traitor to his country.

So you agree with me

 

good

Sabra and Shatila massacre

 

 

 

In brief

 

 

16 September, 5, 30 PM the Israeli soldiers surrounded the Sabra and Shatila camps and 1500 armed men from the Maronite Christian Militias entered the camps.

At first no one listen any fired bullet because the killer killing their victims by axes and knives and they were bury the victims alive after few time the firing bullet began and the Israeli soldiers was stand out the camps to safe their alliance and prevent anyone to enter or out from the camps.

The crime revealed when some injure people succeed to escape from this brutal massacre but no one can stop it. In fact it's hard to describe the massacre. They were killed the pregnant women and the babies they also were raped the victims then they kill them. They were put the bodies in heaps shape. The Israeli soldiers also bombed the camps by tanks. The leader of the operation was Ariel Sharon and in spite of there was Kahan commission and UN accused Ariel Sharon but there is no action taken.

 

In Detail

 

On 6 June 1982, the Israeli army invaded Lebanon in what it described as ‘retaliation’ for the attempted assassination of Israeli Ambassador Argov in London on 4 June. The invasion, soon dubbed “Operation Peace for Galilee,” progressed rapidly. By 18 June 1982, Israel had surrounded the Palestine Liberation Organization’s (PLO) armed forces in the western part of the Lebanese capital. A cease-fire, mediated by United States Envoy Philip Habib, resulted in the PLO evacuation of Beirut on 1 September 1982.

On 11 September 1982, Israeli Defence Minister Ariel Sharon, the architect of the invasion, announced that “2,000 terrorists” had remained inside the Palestinian refugee camps around Beirut. On Wednesday 15 September, the day after the assassination of Israeli-allied Phalangist militia leader and Lebanese President-elect Bashir Gemayel, the Israeli army occupied West Beirut, “encircling and sealing” the camps of Sabra and Shatila, which were inhabited by Lebanese and Palestinian civilians. Israel justified its move into West Beirut by a need to maintain order and stability after Gemayel’s assassination. However, several days later, Ariel Sharon told the Knesset, Israel’s parliament: “Our entry into West Beirut was in order to make war against the infrastructure left by the terrorists”.

The Israeli army then disarmed, as far as they were able, anti-Israeli militias in West Beirut, while leaving the Christian Phalangist militias in East Beirut fully armed. By mid-day on 15 September 1982, the refugee camps were entirely surrounded by Israeli tanks and soldiers, who installed checkpoints at strategic locations and crossroads around the camps in order to monitor the entry or exit of any person. During the late afternoon and evening of that day, the camps were shelled.

Around mid-day on Thursday 16 September 1982, a unit of approximately 150 Israeli-allied-armed Phalangists (or that’s what Israel claim) entered the first camp. For the next 40 hours members of the Phalangist militia raped, killed, and injured a large number of unarmed civilians, mostly children, women and elderly people inside the encircled and sealed camps. The estimate of victims varies between 700 (the official Israeli figure) to 3,500. The victims and survivors of the massacres have never been deemed entitled to a formal investigation of the tragedy, since Israel’s Kahan Commission did not have a judicial mandate and was not backed up by legal force.

 

Watch it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB2j0-8KBSo

 

 

Are you willing to admit Egypt has done bad thing and so have other Arab nations?

Maldini, El Masry - millions of people around the world are suffering in the name of your god Allah - why dont you worry about that instead of pointing fingers at Israel??

 

Your religion is going through a crisis -why not do what you can to help instead of blaming Israel for everything.

Wanna hear a fact finally revealed? Well the Arab population of Palestine was decreasing until the jewish migration, and the majority of palestinian land was swamps or desert with a failing economy. Well after the British Mandate of Palestine did the economy boom, and farm land spring up all over the place BUT the Arab populuation boomed too. Just some history for our Egyptian friends.

Oh and for Maldini Jordan treats palestinians as 2nd class citizens and just as badly as Israel does.

 

http://www.standwithus.com/news_post.asp?NPI=5

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=4454

 

 

In the years that followed, the Israelis made their desert bloom. They built the only industrialized economy in the entire Middle East. They built the only liberal democracy in the Middle East. They treated the Arabs who remained in Israel well. To this day the very large Arab minority, which lives inside the state of Israel, has more rights and privileges than any other Arab population in the entire Middle East.

 

 

This is especially true of the Arabs living under Yasser Arafat’s corrupt dictatorship, the Palestine Authority, which today administers the West Bank and the Gaza strip, and whose Arab subjects have no human rights. In 1997, in a fit of pique against the Oslo Accords, Palestinian spokesman Edward Said himself blurted this out, calling Arafat "our Papa Doc" – after the sadistic dictator of Haiti – and complaining that there was "a total absence of law or the rule of law in the Palestinian autonomy areas."

Zionism and Media

 

1- Britain

 

Who controls The broadcasting?

 

 

 

BBC: The most powerful man at the "British" Broadcasting Corporation is Alan

Yentop , Director of BBC programmes. According to Broadcast magazine (14.6.96)

this "gives him control over all non-news BBC programmes including those for satellite channels and those in English for the World Service." Yentob is a close personal

friend of the immensely powerful independent TV bosses Michael Grade and Michael Green The three have shared holidays in the Caribbean and, together with Charles Saatchi , are referred to by coy insiders as the "St. John's Wood Mafia". The Saatchi and Yentop families have been closely connected since before they moved to Britain from Iraq.Behind the scenes, Jews are well represented among the Governors of the BBC, who include former president of the merchant bank S.G. Warburg Sir David Scholey, Sir Kenneth Bloomfield and Janet Cohen . Holders of important BBC managerial posts include Sara Frank, Chief Executive of BBC Worldwide Americas; Controller of Publicity and Public Relations, Keith Samuel, and David Aronovitch, who is Managing Editor of the BBC's weekly programmes. Anne Solmanis Deputy Head of BBC News Programmes; Ruth Caleb is the Head of Drama, and Louis Markshas been Producer of Drama since 1976. Another key figure in terms of the BBC 's relationship with the rest of the world, Commercial Director at BBC Worldwide TV Tony Kay, is responsible for deals with American networks such as NBC. International Director of US cable operator TCI, Adam Singer- son of former BBC Director-General Aubrey Singer- has also been responsible for a number of recent big deals between the BBC and TCI's British subsidiary Flextech.Head of BBC Comedy Entertainment is Jon Plowman. He is responsible for "alternative comedian"Ben Elton'sThin Blue Line, a person who likes being interviewed in th "respectable" Jewish Chronicle.Jews in prominent positions in BBC regional TV include Rod Natkiel, Head of Network TV at BBC Midlands and East, and Roy Saatchi, Head of Local Programmes at BBC North.The host of lower level functionaries who implement the wishes of the media masters in such stations also includes a vastly disproportionate number of Jews, such as Geoffrey Goodman, who broadcasts on BBC Current Affairs and LBC/IRN- BBC TV's legal correspondent Joshua Rosenberg. Naomi Goldmanis not only Producer on Newsnight, but is also a member of the Jewish Socialist Group. Another militant Zionist in BBC is writer and broadcaster Lisa Jardine.

Coming Next: Channel 4

i don't think it talks about zionists at all in that thing above... it all jewish, clearly showing truly how anti-semitic you are....

 

i suppose al jazeera is also controlled by the jews too...

Zionism and Media

 

1- Britain

 

Who controls The broadcasting?

 

 

 

BBC: The most powerful man at the "British" Broadcasting Corporation is Alan

Yentop , Director of BBC programmes. According to Broadcast magazine (14.6.96)

this "gives him control over all non-news BBC programmes including those for satellite channels and those in English for the World Service." Yentob is a close personal

friend of the immensely powerful independent TV bosses Michael Grade and Michael Green The three have shared holidays in the Caribbean and, together with Charles Saatchi , are referred to by coy insiders as the "St. John's Wood Mafia". The Saatchi and Yentop families have been closely connected since before they moved to Britain from Iraq.Behind the scenes, Jews are well represented among the Governors of the BBC, who include former president of the merchant bank S.G. Warburg Sir David Scholey, Sir Kenneth Bloomfield and Janet Cohen . Holders of important BBC managerial posts include Sara Frank, Chief Executive of BBC Worldwide Americas; Controller of Publicity and Public Relations, Keith Samuel, and David Aronovitch, who is Managing Editor of the BBC's weekly programmes. Anne Solmanis Deputy Head of BBC News Programmes; Ruth Caleb is the Head of Drama, and Louis Markshas been Producer of Drama since 1976. Another key figure in terms of the BBC 's relationship with the rest of the world, Commercial Director at BBC Worldwide TV Tony Kay, is responsible for deals with American networks such as NBC. International Director of US cable operator TCI, Adam Singer- son of former BBC Director-General Aubrey Singer- has also been responsible for a number of recent big deals between the BBC and TCI's British subsidiary Flextech.Head of BBC Comedy Entertainment is Jon Plowman. He is responsible for "alternative comedian"Ben Elton'sThin Blue Line, a person who likes being interviewed in th "respectable" Jewish Chronicle.Jews in prominent positions in BBC regional TV include Rod Natkiel, Head of Network TV at BBC Midlands and East, and Roy Saatchi, Head of Local Programmes at BBC North.The host of lower level functionaries who implement the wishes of the media masters in such stations also includes a vastly disproportionate number of Jews, such as Geoffrey Goodman, who broadcasts on BBC Current Affairs and LBC/IRN- BBC TV's legal correspondent Joshua Rosenberg. Naomi Goldmanis not only Producer on Newsnight, but is also a member of the Jewish Socialist Group. Another militant Zionist in BBC is writer and broadcaster Lisa Jardine.

Coming Next: Channel 4

 

 

Boody hell, what a load of nonsense...so Jews should be banned from reporting news or working for tv stations??

 

Let me guess its ok for Arabs, Muslims, Christians, buddhists, hindu etc but not Jews.

Maldini i love how your ignored my posts. ONce more you cannot stand up to the facts

Channel 4

The Chief Executive of Channel 4 is Michael Grade, who succeeded its creator Jeremy Isaacs. Grade previously controlled LWT and BBC l and 2. He has been a director of First Leisure Entertainment since 1991. This massive company was formerly headed by Grade's uncle, the late Lord Bernard Delfont and includes 300 cinemas, eight theatres, hotels, restaurants and record divisions. Grade's father, semi-retired TV magnate Lew Grade is still Chairman of The Grade Co. and a director of Euro-Disney.The endless diet of filth and perversion which Channel 4 feeds to the public has earned Michael Gradethe sobriquet Britain's "pornographer-in-chief". In March, 1996, he was also widely criticised after his brainchild The Girlie Show ran an episode which clearly encouraged shoplifting. "Why do we allow this millionaire to incite theft?" asked veteran columnist Paul Johnson.

Managing Director of Channel Four International Ltd and Director of Acquisitions at C 4 is Colin Leventhal. This busy man's acquisitions for the channel have included such American shows as Roseanne and The Cosby Show which are produced by Caryan Mandabach'sCarsey Werner company. Leventhal has also developed a close relationship with Nickelodeon, the subsidiary of Summer Redstone'sViacom Inc.The next time you have the misfortune to see the disgusting pieces of decadence which so often pass as "plays" on Channel 4, you should direct your complaint to the channel's Head of Drama, David Aukin, or the Senior Commissioning Editor for Drama, Peter Ansorge, although the latter spoke out strongly in favour of the sympathetic depiction of incest on the soap Brookside at peak family viewing time. Ansorge said that he expected to be attacked for the storyline and condemned the "right-wing lobbies" which express widespread public disquiet about the way in which all the soaps in British broadcasting - with the exception as we go to press of Coronation Street - have been turned into promotional vehicles for sexual deviancy. If, on the other hand, you are offended by the extreme "liberal" tone and content of Channel Four News, reflect on the fact that the News Editor since March 1996 has been Sara Nathan, supported by Elinar Goodman . While Jon Snow, the extremist liberal Channel Four newscaster is not Jewish, he has made his sympathies clear by joining Jewish journalists in addressing a Jewish Chronicle sponsored meeting on ethics in journalism. Channel 4's youth programme production company, Planet 24, has, according to the Jewish Chronicle "an uncanny knack of fronting its popular Channel 4 programmes with blondish Jewish women." These include Dani Behr playing a leading role on The Word and Surf Polatoes and Gabi Roslin of the Big Breakfast and the Gabi Roslin Show. Among the many lesser players involved in the never-ending stream of productions from Channel 4 are Michael and Martin Myers , the distributors who run the First Independent company; Staphanie calman , who is the scriptwriter for the sitcom Dressing for Breakfast; the viciously anti-British comedian Mark Thomas and Alexi Sayle , who says that since he is Jewish, so are all his characters A number of Channel 4 programmes are produced by Philip Clarke's Diverse Production company. These include Diverse Reports, The Hello Girls and Dual Balls, a "comedy" by Dan Zeff.

Clarke has now received funding from the BBC for a new talent project and is currently scouring the UK's universities for new pundits who could appear in a planned BBC 2 heavyweight discussion programme.

 

 

Coming Next: ITV

Maldini i love how your ignored my posts. ONce more you cannot stand up to the facts

 

 

 

Which posts?

I REPEAT

 

i don't think it talks about zionists at all in that thing above... it all jewish, clearly showing truly how anti-semitic you are....

I REPEAT

 

i don't think it talks about zionists at all in that thing above... it all jewish, clearly showing truly how anti-semitic you are....

 

 

Who are the Semitic people?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=4454

 

 

In the years that followed, the Israelis made their desert bloom. They built the only industrialized economy in the entire Middle East. They built the only liberal democracy in the Middle East. They treated the Arabs who remained in Israel well. To this day the very large Arab minority, which lives inside the state of Israel, has more rights and privileges than any other Arab population in the entire Middle East.

 

 

This is especially true of the Arabs living under Yasser Arafat’s corrupt dictatorship, the Palestine Authority, which today administers the West Bank and the Gaza strip, and whose Arab subjects have no human rights. In 1997, in a fit of pique against the Oslo Accords, Palestinian spokesman Edward Said himself blurted this out, calling Arafat "our Papa Doc" – after the sadistic dictator of Haiti – and complaining that there was "a total absence of law or the rule of law in the Palestinian autonomy areas."

 

 

This post

Are you willing to admit Egypt has done bad thing and so have other Arab nations?

 

This post

Wanna hear a fact finally revealed? Well the Arab population of Palestine was decreasing until the jewish migration' date=' and the majority of palestinian land was swamps or desert with a failing economy. Well after the British Mandate of Palestine did the economy boom, and farm land spring up all over the place BUT the Arab populuation boomed too. Just some history for our Egyptian friends.[/quote']

 

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