if you McSay so :laugh3:

 

As Kenneth Williams might have said: "Ooh - stop Mcing about................ ":rolleyes:

Maybe most people want the government to control every aspect of our lives.

Maybe most people want the government to control every aspect of our lives.

 

We do. Exercising executive decisions in our own lives is too complex for mere mortals. We need our health insurance plans picked for us by our employers, we need our medications paid for by the government, we need a regressive tax to finance our retirements.

 

Budgeting is far too difficult. After all, we were never taught how to wisely spend our own money... that's not a subject they teach in the public schools. ;)

They should teach people how to eat healthy cause every time I go to US I'm surprised by the amount of food you get.Maybe I'm used to smaller portion because I'm European but I was stuck for 10 hours in Atlanta once, in the airport and couldn't find ANYTHING healthy to eat.Just stupid fast-food that looked really disgusting.

Most (not all) fast-food is disgusting processed rubbish.

 

Noting beats a proper baguette made in front of you

McDonalds is pretty nasty. The USA isn't the only country guilty of this though. As I recall, Scotland (as beautiful and wonderful a country as it is) makes deep fried candy bars. England (the place I want to visit above all others) has fish and chips. Its not like everyone else does the food thing right.

 

Sorry to bring everyone else into it. I'm certainly not the most patriotic person in the country but we are all on the same plain here.

Nothing wrong with Fish and Chips

 

 

Proper food

i'm sure its delicious but you cannot deny the obvious oil and fat content. just like our burgers and fries.

i think it's good that la's doing this.

 

i really think we should ban fast food restaurants through the whole country. forever.

 

it's not good for you, and the food can be made in the most horrible conditions.

We can also ban cars...they kill a lot of people.

I think LA's going a little too far with this. You shouldn't blame the restaurants, blame the people who can't control themselves.

We can also ban cars...they kill a lot of people.

 

Don't give the idiots any ideas MrCool.

i'm sure its delicious but you cannot deny the obvious oil and fat content. just like our burgers and fries.

 

True, but have you seen what goes into burgers these days?

Don't give the idiots any ideas MrCool.

 

Wait, you don't support that?

True, but have you seen what goes into burgers these days?

 

i know. they're bad. but until you people quit eating crap i wouldn't talk. we're not the only ones. why must i remind everyone that we, in america, are also people and therefore worthy of equal respect.

Wait, you don't support that?

 

I need my car.

I need my car.

 

Well you might die or get hurt....I might die or get hurt....its the governments jobs to protect us from any and everything even if you don't like it?

 

The way you feel about your car, someone may feel about their choice in fast food or things like that.

 

It may make sense to ban fast food and not cars, but whats to say the person in power thinks its a good idea to ban both? If that were to happen by supporting smaller issue's like fast food banning, you'd lost your chance to speak out against it.

But what's to stop governments after banning cars, banning people from wrapping everybody up in cotton-wool and not allowing them out of a safe room?

 

Or maybe they will ban life, as life kills people

I think he's saying the government shouldn't rule our lives, whether its fast food or cars people can make their own decisions. And if they pick the wrong ones, thats their own fault

exactly. Somehow the argument was tranformed from 'should the government prevent us from eating fast-food?' to 'should we eat fast food?'. Anyway, unless someone confidently answers "yes" to the first one, I don't see the point in arguing.

I think he's saying the government shouldn't rule our lives, whether its fast food or cars people can make their own decisions. And if they pick the wrong ones, thats their own fault

 

Yes, you are correct my friend.

^ That's why I wish libertarian candidates stood a chance in the U.S. elections. I'd be glad to have a smaller government.

^ That's why I wish libertarian candidates stood a chance in the U.S. elections. I'd be glad to have a smaller government.

 

I think it boils down to Americans' fundamental misunderstanding of economics, for which the public school system is responsible.

 

Then there's the prevalence of Christianity in America, a religion which the politicians expertly pander to by limiting personal freedoms of minorities and spending taxpayer dollars on anything they can paint as being an act of benevolence (ending poverty or Saddam's reign over Iraq).

 

Finally there's the collectivist aspect. Americans pride themselves on being anti-Communist but they exhibit much of the same attitudes - you'll notice McCain and Obama making the plea for individuals to sacrifice their own wellbeing for the "greater good". So Obama is a friend to everyone - he can just as easily convince lumberjacks to vote for him as treehuggers. A libertarian, on the otherhand, would be considered an enemy to all groups. Except the individual.

Ever notice how their campaign ads seem to mirror each other? energy independence, lower taxes etc.

I'm gonna be 18 a month before the election and things look bleak. It's trivial how mccain ended with the nomination, and I don't see anything reassuring or particularly encouraging about either candidate.

Then please don't give either of them your vote.

 

Remember that men fought and died so you could cast that vote. Don't just toss it at someone who's the lesser of two evils. Make the candidate EARN your vote.