They actually say you are too old for having babies when you are 25:thinking:

 

?! what about having a baby if you're 15?

This isn't 14th century anymore. Jesus. :dozey:

So what about the one who recently had one in her seventies?:rolleyes:

 

a woman?:uhoh:

 

:charming: my plan is to let someone else have the baby for me...

 

So you will ask some other guy to make a baby for you?:wacky:

I feel young :charming:

?! what about having a baby if you're 15?

This isn't 14th century anymore. Jesus. :dozey:

 

that's not what I wanted to say...I forgot the question mark which is like really important in that sentence....it wasn't a statement

a woman?:uhoh:

 

 

World's oldest mother gives birth to twins at 70

 

By Mail Foreign Service

Last updated at 4:46 PM on 05th July 2008

 

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Grandmother Omkari Panwar has given birth to twins at the age of 70

 

She was utterly determined to have a son.

 

The fact that to do so would make 70-year-old Omkari Panwar the world's oldest mother didn't even cross her mind.

 

Her resolve was matched by her husband Charan Singh Panwar, 77.

 

To pay for the IVF treatment vital to producing a male heir to the family's smallholdings, the retired farmer sold his buffalos, mortgaged his land, spent his life savings and took out a credit card loan.

And it all paid off when Mrs Panwar gave birth to twins - a boy and girl - by emergency Caesarean section in hospital in Muzaffarnagar, seven hours drive north of the Indian capital New Delhi.

The twins, born a month premature and weighing 2lb each, are healthy, according to doctors.

 

The Panwars already have two adult daughters, and five grandchildren, but the latest arrivals are what they have been waiting for - not least because a son will benefit from a dowry when he marries and will be able to work their land.

Mrs Panwar said: 'For eight months the pregnancy was hectic and painful. But I have given birth before, so I knew what to expect. Sometimes, you have to face the pain if you want something good.'

 

 

 

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Her husband added: 'At last we have a son and heir. We prayed to God, went to saints and visited religious places to pray for an heir.

 

'The treatment cost me a fortune but the birth of a son makes it all worthwhile. I can die a happy man and a proud father.'

 

 

Wonders of science: The twins born to Omkari Panwar

Mrs Panwar, who has no birth certificate, uses the date of India's independence in 1947 to gauge her age. She remembers being nine when the British left India - meaning she is now 70.

 

Romanian Adriana Iliescu, who gave birth to a daughter through IVF aged 66 in 2005, was previously the world's oldest mother.

 

Mrs Panwar was told she had beaten the record as she recuperated on a rusty steel bed in the mudbrick home of one of her daughters.

 

 

Proud parents: Omkari Panwar, 70, with her husband Charan, 77

'I didn't know that,' she said. 'But it is of little benefit to me. I have not even seen my own children yet - they were taken to a specialist hospital while I was still unconscious.

 

'If I am the world's oldest mother it means nothing to me. I just want to see my new babies and care for them while I am still able.'

 

Gynaecologist Nisha Malik, who delivered the twins in Muzaffarnagar, Uttar Pradesh, said: 'I was shocked when this old lady told me she was pregnant. I have been in medicine for 20 years and I have never heard of such a case.'

 

Omraki Panwar recovers in hospital after delivering her twin via Caesarean section

• Britain's oldest mother is child psychologist Patricia Rashbrook, who was 62 when she gave birth to a son in 2006. Dr Rashbrook had paid £10,000 for IVF treatment in Russia.

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1031722/Worlds-oldest-mother-gives-birth-twins-70.html#ixzz0StH9ttEQ

poor kids :(

i'm 20 and i feel like a kid still

 

i need 10 more years to figure out

poor kids :(

 

They look like "alien" babies.:stunned:

they don't look healthy, but the worst thing is that their parents probably will die in the next few years and it's hard to grow up without a proper family.

World's oldest mother dies of cancer just three years after giving birth to twin boys, sparking new ethical debate

 

By Beth Hale and Tom Worden

Last updated at 5:29 PM on 01st September 2009

 

 

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Cradling her twin boys in her arms, the world's oldest mother confidently proclaimed that longevity ran in her family.

But just two and half years on, Maria Carmen del Bousada's boasts have been proved sadly wrong.

The 69-year-old, who admitted lying about her age to receive fertility treatment in the U.S, has died from cancer.

 

 

Record-breaking: Omkari Panwar was 70 when she gave birth last year, overtaking Miss Bousada as the world's oldest mother

 

Her death will reopen the debate about whether older women should be allowed to undergo fertility treatment.

It also means that two boys have lost their mother. Orphaned before reaching school, her sons, Christian and Pau, will have to rely on others to find out about her.

 

They will now be raised by one of her nephews, the son of her brother Ricardo.

 

Miss Bousada died on Saturday in her home town of Cadiz, south-west Spain, after battling cancer for most of their short lives.

She gave birth in Barcelona in December 2006, days before her 67th birthday.

Earlier this month, Britain's oldest mother Elizabeth Adeney, who had a boy in May, was 67. Like Miss Bousada, she too was childless and single when she underwent fertility treatment using a donor egg and donor sperm.

As for Miss Bousada's cancer, it is understood that the former shop worker had been told that the drugs used during her fertility treatment may have hastened the advance of the disease.

It is known that some types of cancer are sensitive to hormones associated with both pregnancy and fertility treatment. Miss Bousada told doctors in Los Angeles that she was 55 when she travelled there to undergo IVF treatment.

 

Critics, including her own family, called the pensioner, who went through the menopause 18 years before her £20,000 treatment, 'selfish and irresponsible'.

After the birth she admitted lying about her age and predicted she would live to 101 as her mother had done.

'I have every reason to believe longevity runs in my family,' she said.

 

 

 

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But in December 2007 she admitted that she had a 'very serious illness', thought to have been breast cancer.

Asked who would look after the children if she died she said: 'I have a nephew, I have their godfather who is very good with the children.

'They are not going to be alone. The love that these children receive, very few children get that amount of love. That's the truth.'

Defying nature: Elizabeth Adeney became Britain's oldest mother after having her son at the age of 66 in May

 

 

Quite what the future holds for her boys was unclear last night. Miss Bousada's brother Ricardo said: 'The twins are doing brilliantly. They are very well.'

He said the twins would be looked after 'in or close to the nucleus of the family'.

Miss Bousada, who has never been married, decided to have children after her mother died in 2005.

Shortly after the birth she said: 'I have wanted to be a mother all my life, but I never had the opportunity, or met the right man.'

But her words did not prevent the criticism that followed. Rafael Bernabeu, of Spain's National Association of Assisted Reproduction Clinics, described the birth as 'outside of all logic'.

 

He said: 'It is illogical not only because of the risk to the mother but also because the children will inevitably lose there mother at a young age.

 

'Those children will become orphans during their adolescence.'

Ultimately death came even more quickly for Miss Bousada.

In Britain, as in Spain, there is no absolute age limit for IVF, but the NHS will not fund it for women over 40. In practice, most private fertility clinics will not treat women over 50 - the average age of the menopause when they stop producing eggs.

Last night Miss Bousada's death led to renewed criticism of the availability of fertility treatment to older women.

Josephine Quintavalle, of the Comment on Reproductive Ethics group, said: 'Our first priority should be our duty to the children and we should have the courage to say no.'

 

Norman Wells, of Family and Youth Concern, said: 'While it is true that even young parents can and do sometimes tragically die and leave their children orphans, there is obviously a far greater risk when a post-menopausal woman deliberately sets out to bring children into the world without a father.

'Nature itself teaches us that there are seasons in a woman's life and that children are meant to have both a mother and a father. When we tamper with the natural order, children will always suffer as a result.'

Adriana Iliescu, a Romanian who gave birth at 66 in 2005, said she was pained to hear of Miss Bousada's death.

'It is a great sadness when kids are orphans but civil society will help these children,' she said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1199866/Worlds-oldest-mother-dies-cancer-just-years-giving-birth-twin-boys.html#ixzz0StJfqZTO

 

Even sadder for these children.:(

they don't look healthy, but the worst thing is that their parents probably will die in the next few years and it's hard to grow up without a proper family.

 

That's why it shouldn't be allowed. It's a disgrace, and very selfish on the part of the parents.:angry:

see, that's why society tells people when to have kids and do certain things, because there are lots of crazy people out there who doesn't care about the kids and decide to have them even if they know they won't be able to take care of them.

 

I can't believe the first family paid lots of money for a treatment to have kids, that's just wrong :facepalm:

see, that's why society tells people when to have kids, because there are lots of crazy people out there who doesn't care about the kids and decide to have them even if they know they won't be able to take care of them.

 

There clearly have to be limits, but there still shouldn't be any pressure on anyone to have children if they don't want them.;)

see, that's why society tells people when to have kids and do certain things, because there are lots of crazy people out there who doesn't care about the kids and decide to have them even if they know they won't be able to take care of them.

 

I can't believe the first family paid lots of money for a treatment to have kids, that's just wrong :facepalm:

 

What's wrong is that there are greedy doctors prepared to take the money when it's clearly immoral.

They are bringing their profession into disrepute.;)

When nature says you should stop having babies, YOU SHOULD STOP HAVING BABIES.

When nature says you should stop having babies, YOU SHOULD STOP HAVING BABIES.

 

I totally agree.;)

I'm feel very young when I'm on here, because I believe I am one of the youngest on the board. :)

I feel very young when I'm on here, because I believe I am one of the youngest on the board. :)

*crowd shouts* "HOW OLD ARE YOU?!!"

 

I feel old even though im only 19. I will be 20 in two weeks though. :(

I'll be 19 in... *counts fingers* 9 days...

Hi! It's been a long time! Did you make it to Wembley?

 

I feel old even though im only 19. I will be 20 in two weeks though. :(

Hi! It's been a long time! Did you make it to Wembley?

 

Hi Mark it has been a long time indeed! Unfortunatley I didn't make it to Wembley as I couldn't afford a ticket but im happy that I at least got to see them last December.

Hi Mark it has been a long time indeed! Unfortunatley I didn't make it to Wembley as I couldn't afford a ticket but im happy that I at least got to see them last December.

 

OK. Then start saving up for the next tour!:D

I'll be 19 in 2 months and 10 days. :disappointed: