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Oh what is it you heard then Indycindy

 

I heard from Emma, my wittle mosiemoo, that Mark has fallen in love with Lore.

 

 

See, Mark hasn't even responded to my blatantly obvious sarcastic comments

on how much I LOVE him. What a disgrace indeed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But, no matter what Mark... No matter how far you push me away, I will always love you. We've been through so much together... you can't run away from our love. Don't even try, Mark. :beadyeyes:

Fair enough, this post warrants a serious response, so I'll give it one. The point is that Ren (and one or two others) only ever responds to a post of mine or makes a comment referring to me when he wants to score points/take the p*ss/make negative or prejudicial remarks. This has been going on for years.

Some of these comments have actually even been slanderous, and were dealt with through the proper channels.

As I have no reason whatsoever to believe his attitude has changed, I don't see why any loaded "questions" he puts to me in public deserve a response, particularly as he is in no position whatsoever to take the "moral high-ground" based on previous exchanges.

If at any point he decides to interact with me for a prolonged period in a "fair" manner, then maybe I'll look at things a bit differently, but that's about as likely to happen as Chris Martin inviting me to his next birthday party.;)

Therefore I feel it would be better for him not to engage me in any conversation at all and everything will be fine, as it had been for several weeks until this point.;)

 

And none of this has anything to do with this thread by the way, which Shane only ever intended to be a "laugh".

 

Sara wasn't being unreasonable on this occasion, which is why she got a reply.;)

Are you serious? "Fair enough, this post warrants a serious response, so I'll give it one." Would you please exlain why you replied to Sara and not to me? Don't get me wrong Sara, i'm glad he replied to you but last time i checked he disliked you too for being one of the "doomers" I'm only mentioning this to show he actually hates me with a passion and that he'll avoid replying to me no matter how nice, logic or civilised my post will ever be (i can tell because he even avoids talking to me directly and quotes others and says what he should say to me indirectly). This behaviour contradicts anything he ever said about not taking internet fighs seriously otherwise he'd try to respond in a normal way to any point i made in my previous posts in this thread. That's what i call hypocrisy. Btw, how was i being unreasonable by asking you one question?

 

Oh dear god, how did i "score points/take the p*ss/make negative or prejudicial remarks" by asking you if you liked the fights threads? First of all, this isn't a popularity contest. You're delusional if you think i asked you a simple question just to " score points" or take the piss or whatever you might think. I asked you that question because i genuinely wonder why is that, that was all. I've been around the last 3 weeks for your information and if you didn't see me it's because you haven't been in the lounge lately, oh my bad you have been here too but not posting that much because it was quiet and there were no fight threads around. It's easy for anyone to see that you love the attention or the fights and this thread proves it.( yes, i know you posted in other threads too but not as much as this one or any other fight thread for the matter and yes i'm aware you post in the news section but you're pretty much under the radar til a fight thread or whatever is created even if it has nothing to do with you.)

 

I wasn't around the time this happened but i was told that there was a fight thread a few weeks or months ago in which i had nothing to do with and yet you were calling out my name and other user's name ( tonsu i believe? i'm not quite sure)to join you and fight you? That to me is very disrespectful and immature if you take into account that i wasn't even around and had nothing to do with that fight. Then you try to be the victim here and turn people against me for asking you one single question?

 

My attempt was just to discuss with you and see your point of view about the whole fighting situation because like i mentioned in my previous posts, you appear out of no where to reply to anyone who slighly disagrees with you and you seem to enjoy it.

 

Please stop trying to say i'm the evil one here telling everyone i said nasty things about you because you did the very same to me. Just because you insulted me using "*" instead, doesn't make it less offensive ( sh*t stirring,w*nker,c*nt,etc) so you really have no moral authority to lecture anyone. Btw,i've re-read your previous posts and i just noticed you tried to mock me for some typos.I'm sorry for the typos but i write too fast sometimes and english isn't my first language but thanks for being so mature about it and for trying to make my posts look less valid. Kudos for that.

 

Now i'm the one who could deal with you using "the proper channels" because you've been attacking me in all of your posts in this thread but i'm not a whiner so i want to settle this with a proper debate but i think that's very unlikely to happen if you continue with that attitude.

 

You wonder why i'm not insulting you or attacking you even though you are provoking me? Because i just want to see if this is the way you really are or is just an online persona. In the 6 years i've been here ,i've never seen you being serious about anything but deep down ( and considering you're a grown up) i thought we could talk on a public thread in a civilised manner and hopefully solve any differences that have lasted for way too long. In case you forgot, i used to dislike reilly and we had fights all the time but unlike you , he was mature enough to talk to me in a good way when i approached to him with random topics in different public threads and i got to know him and see he was a really cool guy. A similar experience happened to me with Nathan, unfortunately that happened when he had already decided to leave but i'm just bringing this up to show that those 2 guys (that you probably hate/dislike even more than me)were nice and mature enough to talk to me when i was trying to debate with them, why can't you? Like i said, i'm not even trying to be your friend but there's always a posibility we can tolerate each other or anyone for the matter and have a proper debate once in a while without being labelled as "biased" , "doomer", "usual suspect", etc. And i'm sure most people on this board would appreciate a change in your attitude especially if you showed some humility.

 

By the way, that last comment ,and let me quote it, "I feel it would be better for him not to engage me in any conversation at all and everything will be fine" is just ridiculous to say the least. Are you saying you're untouchable so i can't even talk to you? Even though you quote million of people ( me included) when you want to mock them or make a pun or whatever? Please report any of the posts i made in this thread if you want if i offended you because i don't really think i have. And I don't think i committed a crime by asking you a question or that i insulted you ( it's probably the other way around) and dear lord, you really know how to make a huge deal out of it.

 

I know you're gonna multi-quote me because you love having the last word and you're gonna find many ways to try to prove me wrong but i said what i had to say without being abusive like you were towards me in this thread. I know this might be a shocker for many people who have only see me as a jester and had no idea i could be serious but i can be serious when i have to, i just prefer to joke around and chill most of the time, that's all. I really wanted something positive to come out of this and i hope you at least consider some of the points i made.

 

Please to those spammers or people who scream out to stop the fight, i'm not even fighting, i'm just expressing my point of view and i hope you can respect that.

 

Cheers.

 

Ps. Mark, i said all i had to say here so i'd appreciate it if stopped quoting others and saying things to me indirectly. If you wanna discuss something do it directly to me in the same public thread if you wish.

hiiii ren! :D

Are you serious? "Fair enough, this post warrants a serious response, so I'll give it one." Would you please exlain why you replied to Sara and not to me?

 

Maybe because Sara made a concerted effort a few weeks ago to "bury the hatchet", something you've never done?:rolleyes:

 

I'm only mentioning this to show he actually hates me with a passion and that he'll avoid replying to me no matter how nice, logic or civilised my post will ever be (i can tell because he even avoids talking to me directly and quotes others and says what he should say to me indirectly).

 

As I've already said, I have no respect for you whatsoever based on your previous behaviour. I can only conclude you are having a big problem reading.

 

;)

 

This behaviour contradicts anything he ever said about not taking internet fighs seriously otherwise he'd try to respond in a normal way to any point i made in my previous posts in this thread. That's what i call hypocrisy.

 

Same old bullsh*t. What you call anything has no relevance at all as far as I'm concerned.:smug:

 

Btw, how was i being unreasonable by asking you one question?

 

You can ask any question you like. I can also choose not to answer any question I like.:rolleyes:

 

Oh dear god, how did i "score points/take the p*ss/make negative or prejudicial remarks" by asking you if you liked the fights threads?

 

Again, it appears you need reading glasses, as I was clearly referring to past events, of which there have been many.;)

 

First of all, this isn't a popularity contest.

 

Well you certainly seem to think it's one.:lol:

 

You're delusional if you think i asked you a simple question just to " score points" or take the piss or whatever you might think. I asked you that question because i genuinely wonder why is that, that was all. I've been around the last 3 weeks for your information and if you didn't see me it's because you haven't been in the lounge lately, oh my bad you have been here too but not posting that much because it was quiet and there were no fight threads around. It's easy for anyone to see that you love the attention or the fights and this thread proves it.( yes, i know you posted in other threads too but not as much as this one or any other fight thread for the matter and yes i'm aware you post in the news section but you're pretty much under the radar til a fight thread or whatever is created even if it has nothing to do with you.)

 

If you bother to check, I think you'll find I post in far more threads than you ever do, so that's your blinkered theory blown out of the water straight away.:laugh3:

 

 

I wasn't around the time this happened but i was told that there was a fight thread a few weeks or months ago in which i had nothing to do with and yet you were calling out my name and other user's name ( tonsu i believe? i'm not quite sure)to join you and fight you? That to me is very disrespectful and immature if you take into account that i wasn't even around and had nothing to do with that fight. Then you try to be the victim here and turn people against me for asking you one single question?

My attempt was just to discuss with you and see your point of view about the whole fighting situation because like i mentioned in my previous posts, you appear out of no where to reply to anyone who slighly disagrees with you and you seem to enjoy it.

Please stop trying to say i'm the evil one here telling everyone i said nasty things about you because you did the very same to me. Just because you insulted me using "*" instead, doesn't make it less offensive ( sh*t stirring,w*nker,c*nt,etc) so you really have no moral authority to lecture anyone. Btw,i've re-read your previous posts and i just noticed you tried to mock me for some typos.I'm sorry for the typos but i write too fast sometimes and english isn't my first language but thanks for being so mature about it and for trying to make my posts look less valid. Kudos for that.

 

All of this is your usual tired, biased bullsh*t which we've been over countless times before. All of this is your own opinion which I don't care about.;)

 

 

Now i'm the one who could deal with you using "the proper channels" because you've been attacking me in all of your posts in this thread but i'm not a whiner so i want to settle this with a proper debate but i think that's very unlikely to happen if you continue with that attitude.

 

Ditto above comment.

 

 

You wonder why i'm not insulting you or attacking you even though you are provoking me? Because i just want to see if this is the way you really are or is just an online persona. In the 6 years i've been here ,i've never seen you being serious about anything but deep down ( and considering you're a grown up) i thought we could talk on a public thread in a civilised manner and hopefully solve any differences that have lasted for way too long. In case you forgot, i used to dislike reilly and we had fights all the time but unlike you , he was mature enough to talk to me in a good way when i approached to him with random topics in different public threads and i got to know him and see he was a really cool guy. A similar experience happened to me with Nathan, unfortunately that happened when he had already decided to leave but i'm just bringing this up to show that those 2 guys (that you probably hate/dislike even more than me)were nice and mature enough to talk to me when i was trying to debate with them, why can't you? Like i said, i'm not even trying to be your friend but there's always a posibility we can tolerate each other or anyone for the matter and have a proper debate once in a while without being labelled as "biased" , "doomer", "usual suspect", etc. And i'm sure most people on this board would appreciate a change in your attitude especially if you showed some humility.

 

Ditto above comments. You are in no position to lecture anyone about anything.:smug:

 

 

By the way, that last comment ,and let me quote it, "I feel it would be better for him not to engage me in any conversation at all and everything will be fine" is just ridiculous to say the least. Are you saying you're untouchable so i can't even talk to you? Even though you quote million of people ( me included) when you want to mock them or make a pun or whatever? Please report any of the posts i made in this thread if you want if i offended you because i don't really think i have. And I don't think i committed a crime by asking you a question or that i insulted you ( it's probably the other way around) and dear lord, you really know how to make a huge deal out of it.

 

Unlike you with all the drivel you've posted here once again, you mean? That's hilarious!:laugh3:

 

 

I know you're gonna multi-quote me because you love having the last word and you're gonna find many ways to try to prove me wrong but i said what i had to say without being abusive like you were towards me in this thread. I know this might be a shocker for many people who have only see me as a jester and had no idea i could be serious but i can be serious when i have to, i just prefer to joke around and chill most of the time, that's all. I really wanted something positive to come out of this and i hope you at least consider some of the points i made.

 

I hope you consider some of the points I've made, but I won't be holding my breath.:lol:

 

 

Please to those spammers or people who scream out to stop the fight, i'm not even fighting, i'm just expressing my point of view

 

As am I.:smug:

 

 

 

Ps. Mark, i said all i had to say here so i'd appreciate it if stopped quoting others and saying things to me indirectly. If you wanna discuss something do it directly to me in the same public thread if you wish.

 

I'd appreciate it if you just didn't communicate with me at all, as was agreed some months ago. Anything else you're just going to have to get over, I'm afraid.;)

hiiii ren! :D

 

He's far too busy "ranting" to notice you, I suspect.:lol:

This is ridiculous. :facepalm:

This is ridiculous. :facepalm:

 

That's true, as it will achieve absolutely nothing, as usual.:rolleyes:

He's far too busy "ranting" to notice you, I suspect.:lol:

I had to go out, i have a life you know.

 

And hi Indy, long time no see!

Ren is being very reasonable... I don't know what happened in the past, but I think you should stop being so stubborn/unforgiving.

I had to go out, i have a life you know.

 

 

Good to hear.;)

Maybe because Sara made a concerted effort a few weeks ago to "bury the hatchet", something you've never done?

 

He just did. Again.

Ren is being very reasonable... I don't know what happened in the past, but I think you should stop being so stubborn/unforgiving.

 

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Btw, i didn't call any of your post bullshit.(still the little " * " doesn't make it less offensive)That's very disrespectful and very immature of you. I really did try to be reasonable here but it's like talking to a wall.

What a load of bullshit, Mark.

He just did. Again.

 

With all that inflammatory stuff he mentioned in his "rant"? I don't think so.;)

Btw, i didn't call any of your post bullshit.(still the little " * " doesn't make it less offensive)That's very disrespectful and very immature of you. I really did try to be reasonable here but it's like talking to a wall.

 

Now you know how it feels, then.;)

Have you finished ranting yet?:rolleyes:

You don't think so. Fine. But the only inflammatory comments I've seen here are your responses to his comment.

You don't think so. Fine. But the only inflammatory comments I've seen here are your responses to his comment.

 

You obviously weren't reading very closely, then.;)

If what he said had been any more one-sided it would have keeled over!!:rolleyes:

Now you know how it feels, then.;)

Have you finished ranting yet?:rolleyes:

I'm not ranting, i'm voicing my opinion.

 

Btw," Now you know how it feels, then ;) "that sentence shows you really hold a grudge on me. I don't even have to say anything else because people can see that. And i'm man enough to say that yes, we had nasty fights and we insulted each other in the past ( you even ruined my Mr. Coldplaying thread last year) so you aren't any better than me in that sense. I'd appreciate it if you'd quit playing the victim here. It's time to move on, don't you think?

You obviously weren't reading very closely, then.;)

If what he said had been any more one-sided it would have keeled over!!:rolleyes:

 

Thank you for questioning my intelligence, but I was reading very closely. Ren was actually telling you how he sees the situation and he didn't just do it with a "witty" comment and a ":rolleyes:" or a ";)".

I'm not ranting, i'm voicing my opinion.

 

Well we'll have to agree to disagree about that too, I suppose.;)

 

Btw," Now you know how it feels, then ;) "that sentence shows you really hold a grudge on me.

 

I'm amazed you even care what I think of you.:dozey:

 

 

I don't even have to say anything else because people can see that. And i'm man enough to say that yes, we had nasty fights and we insulted each other in the past ( you even ruined my Mr. Coldplaying thread last year) so you aren't any better than me in that sense. I'd appreciate it if you'd quit playing the victim here. It's time to move on, don't you think?

 

I agree, and if you stop raking up old, meaningless stuff (it would be quite easy for me to mention threads of mine which you have helped ruin, for example), which could be debated till the cows come home without a reasonable outcome, maybe that will be possible.;)

Thank you for questioning my intelligence, but I was reading very closely. Ren was actually telling you how he sees the situation and he didn't just do it with a "witty" comment and a ":rolleyes:" or a ";)".

 

Maybe, but he still mentioned a lot of stuff that was either untrue, grossly exaggerated, a total misrepresentation of what happened, or ignoring certain contributory factors/circumstances.;)

Maybe, but he still mentioned a lot of stuff that was either untrue, grossly exaggerated, a total misrepresentation of what happened, or ignoring certain contributory factors/circumstances.;)

 

What he was saying is completely true though, and you're just failing to accept that you did something wrong. Come on, not everyone is perfect, including YOU.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree about that too, I suppose.;)

 

 

 

I'm amazed you even care what I think of you.:dozey:

 

 

 

 

I agree, and if you stop raking up old, meaningless stuff (it would be quite easy for me to mention threads of mine which you have helped ruin, for example), which could be debated till the cows come home without a reasonable outcome, maybe that will be possible.;)

I don't care that much but i'm tired to see the same old fights again and with you in the middle of it fighting half board. I'm honestly saying that if you changed your attitude and wouldn't call everyone biased for disagreeing with you then more people would actually like you.

 

Well, last time you reported me for posting in a thread you made and i didn't even say anything offensive that time .

I admit i caused trouble too because you got on my nerves many times in the past but you did the same in some threads too. Like i said, you're no better than me but unlike you i do admit i made a mistake.

 

I'm still hoping you think about it and consider to change your attitude in the near future because your online persona is affecting others and not always in a positive way.