August 20, 201114 yr It doesn't sound common time to me. Maybe 7/8 or 5/4? I don't know. I can't play anything out of 4/4 or 6/8, but maybe some talented musicians will know...
August 20, 201114 yr Author Well it's definitely not 4/4. It sounds like a bar of 6/4 followed by three bars of 4/4. Which wouldn't be a surprise as Violet Hill's chorus enters 6/4. But as I say, I'm clueless.
August 21, 201114 yr You're probably right, I was thinking of the first part of the guitar solo when i said it's not in 4/4. The part where the notes are Bb, C, D (the second part of the solo) is in 4/4.
August 21, 201114 yr It almost feels like the first part where the song is picking up a bit: (this video is my reference point lol) [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHutHOnfLpY&feature=fvst]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHutHOnfLpY&feature=fvst[/ame] at about :30 would be better described as cut time (essentially a fast 4/4 that is cut in half), before switching to 4/4 for the part where Chris is singing (1:03). . . I play clarinet in a symphonic band so I'm familiar with time signatures, but I feel like the guitar intro is baffling me. . . doesn't quite feel like 6/8 imo but I could be wrong. I'll ask my brother and Violet to double check. :P And finally, and interesting thread in the Mylo Xyloto section!
August 21, 201114 yr Author Yeah there's definitely 4/4 in there, it just carries two extra bars at one point, methinks.
August 22, 201114 yr It's 4/4 most of the time, except in first bar of guitar solo (6/4) and in first bar of verse (6/4). So, in this video: 0.28 - 0.31 is 6/4 and then 4/4. Same thing with 0.42 - 0.44 (6/4), followed by 4/4, until 0.54 - 0.57 (6/4): ............I....sto..le.the....key 1....2....3....4....5....6..|..1....2....3....4....|
August 23, 201114 yr It is not in 4/4 all the time, that's for sure. Most of the time - yes, but there are some moments where it turns into 6/4 (or two bars with 3/4, whatever you prefer). And it's not really anything unusual to do it that way. I wonder is this the first time Coldplay does it...
August 24, 201114 yr Just had a listen to the Rock IM Ring version on YouTube. Sounds awfully like one bar of 4/4, then one bar of 2/4, then two bars of 4/4 again. Awfully similar to Everything in its Right Place (by Radiohead) :)
August 24, 201114 yr Just had a listen to the Rock IM Ring version on YouTube. Sounds awfully like one bar of 4/4, then one bar of 2/4, then two bars of 4/4 again. Awfully similar to Everything in its Right Place (by Radiohead) :) Oh, you're right in the EIIRP thing, they re similar. It's 6/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4; Repeat: 6/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4...
August 24, 201114 yr It's 6/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4; Repeat: 6/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4... Or 4/4, 2/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, depending on how you count.
August 24, 201114 yr The only place where I saw the correct time signature is in the first post. It is: 4 bars 7/8, 4 bars 4/4 and repeat. So: 7/8 | 7/8 | 7/8 | 7/8 4/4 | 4/4 | 4/4 | 4/4 Here is my tab/sheet: http://coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77191
August 25, 201114 yr Sorry, that's just wrong, there is no 7/8 in Charlie Brown. :) I can write sheet music if you want. :) STW is right, Hartroc too.
August 25, 201114 yr And on what do you base that? On the sheetmusic 4x 7/8, 4x 4/4 looks lots better and the notes fits better. I've compared it with the 4/4 2/4 4/4 etc. Look here for the sheets: 7/8: http://stephanhondeveld.com/sheets/charliebrown.png 2/4: http://stephanhondeveld.com/sheets/charliebrown44.png They both are possible and both of them somehow fits: 3rd and 4th bar of 2/4 fits better for the lead guitar. However the 7/8 fits better for the rhythm guitar and the two first bars.
August 25, 201114 yr No, both are not possible because you have to consider the role of the beats in 4/4 (2/4) and those in 7/8. Look at my score, I put '>' sign on the downbeat, where it should be and what is the main reason why it is 4/4+2/4 and not 7/8. Try to play with this simplified harmony, and you will see the difference. http://i53.tinypic.com/2isghs8.jpg p.s. It's g-minor/B-flat-major. :)
August 25, 201114 yr I think the song alternates 3/4 and 4/4... For example, Jonnyboy's solo at the beginning is: 3/4 4/4 4/4 4/4 (and repeats) Then it goes: 3/4 4/4 4/4 (finishing with "took what they offered me") Then this^ structure repeats, then there's Jonny's solo again... From "In my scarecrow dreams" to "combusting the concrete" is again 3/4 4/4 4/4. "Be a cartoon heart" is 3/4, then an empty 4/4, and then from "Light a fire" to "glowing in the" is 4/4. Then Jonny's solo. The "All the boys, all the girls" I think it's 4/4. Now we have again Jonny's riff, and the "So we saw" part starts with a 3/4 beat and keeps on with 4/4 until the end.
August 25, 201114 yr Author Just had a listen to the Rock IM Ring version on YouTube. Sounds awfully like one bar of 4/4, then one bar of 2/4, then two bars of 4/4 again. Awfully similar to Everything in its Right Place (by Radiohead) :) Everything In Its Right Place is in 10/8 I believe.
August 25, 201114 yr No, both are not possible because you have to consider the role of the beats in 4/4 (2/4) and those in 7/8. Look at my score, I put '>' sign on the downbeat, where it should be and what is the main reason why it is 4/4+2/4 and not 7/8. Try to play with this simplified harmony, and you will see the difference. http://i53.tinypic.com/2isghs8.jpg p.s. It's g-minor/B-flat-major. :) Still it won't fit. In your sheet you say it's a full 4/4 bar(the Gm). However if you play it with the song and count it will not fit in 4/4. The Gm is played 7 times instead of 8, the downbeat is earlier. Listen carefully!:)
August 25, 201114 yr Still it won't fit. In your sheet you say it's a full 4/4 bar(the Gm). ... The Gm is played 7 times instead of 8, the downbeat is earlier. No, not every Will's 'kick' means downbeat. :) Theoretically - irrelevant to time signature. That's why I wrote "simplified harmony" in my earlier post. Key point is 9th tone in melody - tone 'd'. It's on obviously downbeat and not third beat (downbeat) in 7/8 as your score suggested.
August 25, 201114 yr I'm not talking about any kickdrum. :confused: I'm neither pointing at Jonny's riff, I'm pointing at the rhythm(Chris's part etc.) there it just doesn't seem right in the first two bars of 4/4 - 2/4. I must say that the third and fourth does seem more right in 4/4. Maybe we are both wrong and they just put the first two bars together and the third and fourth in 4/4. It won't follow the correct pattern but it fits best. :lol: I mean: 12/8 - 4/4 - 4/4 and repeat
August 25, 201114 yr I mean: 12/8 - 4/4 - 4/4 and repeat And as 12/8 is = 6/4 (and is a more neat), we come to my first post saying: 6/4 - 4/4 - 4/4. :D
August 26, 201114 yr I really sounds like 6/4 to me for the guitar solo but then changes to 4/4 for 'I stole the key'... but I'm not much of a musician :P
May 15, 201214 yr I just joined this forum cos this thread was bugging me! The Charlie Brown riff is a bar of 6/8 and then the remainder is in 4/4. It's not 6/4, which is more acoustically similar to 3/4 - for example, Coldplay's song Shiver is in 6/4. Trust me!
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