Space Cadet

I know what I'm doing! :cheesy: ...for the first time in my life.

^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA Where in the booklet?

Since we're talking about actors, I think Kiefer Sutherland's grandfather would have something to say about all of this...

Well, the entire song is actually about the MK Ultra project if you look at the lyrics. (Yes, I did have to look up what MK Ultra was after someone mentioned it on a tv show.)

^Good. :nice: Yeah, I've been doing that since early 1999 when I used to sort through filming set reports on the Lord of the Rings movies. I've had a bit of practice since then. ;) Oh, forgot to say (In the name of citing my own source) I based all this on the times that Google News gives. The articles could actually have been written or posted earlier than that if it took a while for Google to pick the article up.

I usually skip My Guiding Light and Unnatural Selection. Listen to Exogenesis. And MK Ultra.

No, it's just a factual transcription error. Chart Attack was quoting the Guardian. The Guardian said that a full release of Electric Eye would be on the 30th and that according to Coldplaying.com an album release was imminent. Whoever put the second article together must have misread it. There has clearly been no press release. These articles have been spreading virally- if you look up the (English) articles based on when they came out, every new article quotes the one(s) that came before it. And because most of them say "so and so is reporting that..." they don't have to check for any facts or original sources. It means if someone screws up, the error will be repeated as fact by the next article. A timeline: Twenty-four bit picked up on the Coldplaying article Ian posted. That tipped off the Guardian who wrote their own article the next day. When the Guardian wrote about it, it went on all the big news wires or however it works. The BBC wrote about it next and they may have asked a band source directly since they don't give one, but the article is so short and terse that they may have just pasted together commonly known facts. Consequence of Sound wrote their piece next and say they took all their info directly from the 24bit article and the band's website. Next Spinner took all their info from the Guardian article. Flavorwire's blog shows up next. It sound like they got all their info from existing articles, the official website, and the fan statements on Coldplaying. Strangeglue next- their info is from Coldplaying and the official site. Limewire quotes Spinner and mentions the official site. Exclaim.ca say their info came directly from Coldplaying as well as the official twitter. Idolater.com are the first site to mention the album coming out on the same day as the single. It cites the Spinner article but doesn't give any sources otherwise. From the way they're saying certain things, I would guess they got the main part of their info either from 24bit or coldplaying. Then there's Chart Attack misreading the Guardian article as their main source. In their defense, the Guardian article was very vaguely worded... Finally there's the Post article, which doesn't give sources, but sounds like a collection of facts from all the other articles. Although they do say the band have announced. But that could be quoting Coldplaying. If the band announced to you guys, it still would have counted as an announcement. SO. Sorry for the length of that, watching viral stories grow like that is sort of a hobby of mine. Journalists for the most part are a very lazy group. It's amazing the crap that gets whitewashed into supposedly legitimate facts by passing through a few different papers. Remember. Always, always, always check the original source. Most good articles will cite one or else specifically say that they themselves got the quote directly from the person or the person's PR department. Sometimes you have to go through 4 or 5 different articles to find out which one started it. And by that time there are usually factual errors. (I once heard of a guy who wrote a poem in the style of a certain poet on the day of the poet's death, and posted it on the poet's Wikipedia page to see if anyone would take the bait. That fake poem ended up in obituaries in major respected papers the world over. To this day the fake poem is still attributed to that poet, always citing the obituaries.)

:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3: :hug: *has been listening to the Resistance almost every single day for 2 months now* :uhoh: :smug2: Over-the-top is the new punk rock. :cool:

Excellent points. :D And yet my gut reaction is, No Choosing! Don't wanna. Not gonna. Can't make me. :P :heart:

Now even the National Post is running with it: source And not so surprisingly, Chart Attack.

I was very, very old for my age for most of my life. ...Until I turned about 22 or 23 and became a teenager for the first time. Now I still have trouble convincing people that I'm as old as I actually am. :confused:

Heh... if Oasis hadn't broken up they'd probably be on that list too... The rumor is more or less the same every year.

^I love how many of the articles that mention the vocal debate always link back to this thread. :lol: It really is all starting go a bit meta, isn't it? ...Reminds me how much of a fishbowl this place can be... :uhoh:

What's a nuber? :wacko: :escaping2:

It does... but then other moments he looks more like a blonde David Carradine.:inquisitive:

Depends... are most people going to like them? Will you stop if they don't? :thinking:

Sorry, I need 5 before your lists can count. If you're having trouble thinking of anything, there's lots of great suggestions on other people's lists, and grooveshark is a great place to look things up. Better get to that soon, then. ;)

For You. Soothing when I need it, quiet when I need a nap (makes for a good lullaby too), fades into the background when I don't want to hear it anymore.

I can hear him- very slightly. It fades in and out. I'd say if he's singing on it much he's singing a bit lower than he normally does. I'd guess it Magne that's the most prominent of the three.

Oh come on ladies, use your brains as well as your ears. :rolleyes: It's either Jonas, Magne, or Guy. (Or the fourth guy, but I don't know what his voice sounds like.) Jonas sounds like no one else on earth that I know of. If it was just him, we'd all know in a second. It was certainly him singing on Ferreting. Magne sounds a little bit like Jonas but without any of the distinctive quirks from what I could find of live performances of him on youtube. I'd say his voice might be a little bit lower, too. So if you're having trouble figuring out if it was Jonas but aren't sure because it doesn't really sound like him, it might Magne. Guy's singing voice is a fair bit lower than the other two. If you want to hear him, he's really easy to pick out singing backup on live performances of Speed of Sound in the early part of the X&Y tour- he was a little pitchy back then. (Sorry, but it was true... :( ) When I saw them live they had his mike turned up too loud so he was impossible to miss. I can say with some assurance, that if it was just Guy singing you'd notice it in a hurry. I don't think there would be too much doubt. Now listen to what you're all saying. It sounds like Guy, but it doesn't. It sounds a lot like Magne, but his fans say it definitely isn't him. There are moments when you almost think it might be Jonas, but it couldn't just be him, you'd notice right away. So, where does that leave us? LISTEN TO THE TRACK AGAIN. There has to be what? 1? 2? DOZEN vocal tracks mixed together there. Forget the computers- they're using that old fashioned trick common since the first moment Phil Specktor touched a mixing desk and layering vocal tracks together to give them a different sound. It's what gives it that eerie whooshing effect. Not to mention that Mew uses that technique all the time. Do you think it just might be remotely possible they used those dozens of layers to blend all of their vocals together? :smug2: I could be wrong and won't have a problem saying so if I am, but I don't think so. Oh, and I can definitely pick out Jonas' and Guy's voices singing together on Snow Crystals.

The Joshua Tree sounds so amazing on vinyl. That first ambient bit at the start- no cd can capture that. :nice:

^Hey, if she can fly up to Canada on short notice, she's welcome to join...

:surprised: She gave you swine flu! :uhoh: Take care of yourself, there.

I have two turntables including my Dad's and lots of old albums mostly picked up at yardsales- lots of Beatles, a bit of U2 and Blondie, Sufjan Stevens' Illinoise and of course Coldplay's singles boxset. Only problem is that I went to play my copy of The Beatles' White Album last month, and Back in the USSR sounded like chipmunks. :confused: Turns out the 33 gear on mine is broken and it's sealed off so I can't figure out what's wrong. :angry::( Have you tried yardsales? Sometimes people sell good ones for just a few bucks. Didn't you say you used to DJ once? :P I think so. Some are harder to get than others.

^heh, hardly counts as you aren't forcing your music choices on others...