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Piano is fabulous. I just started taking lessons three or four months ago, and I'm 16, so it's no big deal. It does help it's my grandma, though, and as such I haven't had to pay for anything. By the way, being able to read sheet music is VERY important. If you have a perfectly in tune ear, then with time you'll be okay without being able to read sheet music, but otherwise you're never going to be fully accomplished. If you've got no ear you're sunk too, though. :lol: Because when looking at music you're going to need to know how it sounds or you'll think you're playing the right things when in reality you've got bad notes all over the place. Then playing becomes only technical, and that's dull. Plus, reading sheet music is important if you want to go anywhere on piano but for playing Coldplay songs or whatnot. Like if you're playing at an event and there's a vocalist who wants you to be able to accompany them on piano on a song you don't know. A player going just by ear won't be able to do it, but a pianist who can read sheet music instantly knows the key and the tempo of the song, so they're a much more versatile player than someone going by ear. And the drummers I've known have told me that piano is very important for drummers. It's all about rythm and a good ear, I suppose. Champion is excellent on both, so there you go.

I think it's just D# Gm and Bb I'm not sure, on the album it's double tracked during that part where there's two guitars playing.

hahaha this post gave me a laugh. I'm not sure exactly what they meant. I suppose every thing he's ever done on guitar.

I recommend an acoustic to start with. It's easier to pick up and play, don't have to worry about messing with distortion or reverb or any of that. Also, as most players start off with chords and rythm, that's easier to get a grasp of on acoustic. You might hear different things from different people, though. As to actually fingering chords, electric would probably be easier. Coldplay songs are generally played on electric, but sound fine on acoustic, because they're typically done with little to no effects. By the way - something that will help you a LOT as a guitarist will be taking time and learning musical theory. That will help you more than you know.

Karma Police? That's awesome. I've been trying to learn that. Great chord progression. How long've you been playing? I have for about six months now, and I struggle a little with the rythm, it changes lots through the song. The one I enjoy most is playing all the way through 'Street Spirit' because it's a quick arpeggio which is kinda difficult to pick up at first.

Radiohead vs Coldplay vs U2 Which of the three would you say was best, and why? The technically genius Radiohead, the melodic brilliance of Coldplay, or the simplistic, anthemic beauty of U2? I have a lot to say here, but I'd like to see others opinions first.

10/10 Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream

Hello Corey, this is one of the better forums on the net. What it's lacking in true knowledge it makes up for in the people being extremely affable. It's very femme heavy here, for better of for worse ( better, ladies are good! :) ) Just don't make a mistake and say a guitar is "definately a Strat" when you own a Strat and the guitar you're looking at is way not what you have. Cuz then you'll be quite embarassed, and people will laugh at you. :blush:

haha i was just opening up this thread to know what song musicians in here perform that makes them think, "damn, i'm not too bad at this instrument after all" like being able to play the solo in Stairway, the rolling piano of Clocks, or the thunderous yet simple beauty of Victor Wooten's bass-amazing grace. not what song you enjoy playing the most, just the one that when you play, you feel shows your technical ability best.

I know, apparently I am blind and stupid. :) As to easy songs to learn, two of the first three songs I learned on guitar were Coldplay songs, in The Scientist and In My Place. For The Scientist you have to have a capo, but for in my place, you should be able to play it no problem. --12------12-------------9---------9--------- ---------------------12--------12--------(3x) -------9-------9------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- then on the last time, you'll play --12------12----8/9--------9------9--------- -------------------------12-----12------10--- -------9--------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- that '8/9' part means you'll slide the note from a C to a C#, meaning you'll slide your finger from the 8th fret to the 9th fret without picking the note a second time. It's fairly easy on an electric guitar. Oh, and that smoke on the water riff is wrong. It's not played on one string. You can play it two different ways, but that isn't one of them If you want to play it full chords, you take an F fingering, then play it in this context F G# Bb F G# B Bb F G# Bb G# F Or the other way goes ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- --0---3---5---0---3---6/5---0---3--5--3--0-- --0---3---5---0---3---6/5---0---3--5--3--0-- ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- :) great song to play. first song my dad learned too. This is how it can be played, if you want to look for easy songs. You can also play it without the hammer on and changing the note from an F# to a G on the E string, but this is how I prefer for the opening riff. ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- -----------------2--0-----4-----0h2------------ --------------2--------2-----2------------------ ----0---2h4------------------------------------- Quite simple but really good song to play. You move it down a string later in the song, and you can work out the rythm portion on your own. Another great song every guitarist knows is Sunshine Of Your Love by Cream. This is the intro to it, instantly recognizable and a good song to work with. You play this twice, the first time playing the D note in parenthesis and the second time you don't. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ ----12--12--10--12--------------------------------------- -----------------------12--11--10--------8b-------------- --------------------------------------10-------10--(10)---

Goodness, what a total embarassment, hehe. Worst part is my brain must have totally melted, cuz I have a Fender Strat, and for a moment lost my brains and told myself I had a Tele. God damn...

Californication by the Red Hot Chili Peppers

I'm going! I'm travelling from Springfield, Missouri, which is about four hours away. I'm in section 7, back towards the very back of the floor, but I know it's going to be amazing, and I was about six or seven rows from them first time I saw 'em, so I'm fine with it. I'm going with a friend, and it'll be his first show, so he's mad excited. I had won two tickets in the presale for the Kentucky show, but since I go to school still when I first looked at them I had them right in the front section, but then after school I was off to the side, and I had a friend who had family there and all of that, so I gave her the rights to buy the tickets, then she didn't. I'm not that worried.

ahhhh yay that's trouble two nights in a row, and they weren't playing X&y on the first half of the tour now hopefully they'll include shiver, amsterdam, etc. for future shows OH! and guy playing guitar...awesome! :)

Chris doesn't drink at all, so imagine - all of that is for three people! 2 packs of smokes each is a lot. I saw this thing before, or for the MTV Music Awards, where they had the same demands. It's interesting though. Kanye West only wanted pepsi and salad, but R. Kelly wanted an entirely white room, white couches white armchairs everything.

Anyways, this thread is just to pick out a few of your favourite Coldplay tracks and list the emotions you relate with them, and if you have a little story as to why, that'd be neat too. Anyways, Parachutes Don't Panic - Happiness. How can you not? Just kinda voices, during times when you're feeling well, how things are. Spies - Unease. I just view this as their way of saying that there's people everywhere looking at you and judging, willing to fuck with you. Yellow - Cheer. Showing what a girl means to you, what you've done for her, your way of saying how special she is. Trouble - Inadequate. (sp) Just makes me think of how at times I've really felt something towards a girl, and yet all I can do is cause her grief. We Never Change - Sorrow. Makes me sad with my friends, shows how everybody's fucked up and it's going to stay this way. Makes me look at friends in a different light Everything's Not Lost - Glimma of hope. There's no dodging the subject, it's not all lost, you still have that ray of sunshine that the world isn't that bad. A Rush Of Blood To The Head Politik - Pounding energy. Nothing fancy. The Scientist - Old girlfriends, wondering why it's really difficult. When I play it, though, I don't feel the same depression. Don't know. Clocks - Unbridled joy. Haha. The gorgeous piano and dark voice combine to make me feel really good about life. Green Eyes - Like a calm awe of special persons. Warning Sign - Old people, girls and old friends I don't speak with much anymore. Girls I had something with and now it's gone, friends where the relationship is frayed. Amsterdam - I don't know. I've never figured out exactly what it's about, but I love the song. This is one of the ones I can listen to in any mood, at times it makes me feel relaxed and happy, wheras others it depresses me immensely. X&Y What If - Like has been said, it's kinda like the anti-anthem to 'Imagine,' kind of that vein of the world is so sad and dim, what would it be like if it wasn't messed up? This speaks loudest to me when things are dark but I am praying for strength to overcome them. Fix You - It's written to someone, but I kind of view it in a lower vein, kind of like it bothers me, is there anyone who would help me, who actually cares when I cry. Just how I've viewed it. X&Y - Kind of like someone being carried away with love. The old love and water comparisons. I want to jump in, but can I? Then eventually, yeah, we're going away. Speed Of Sound - Joy. Makes me happy with everything, every time the first chorus comes I can't help but close my eyes, smile and sing. Also makes me want to drive very fast. :) 'Till Kingdom Come - "For you I'd wait..." you know, special person, how you'd wait for them as long as it took for them to come around on you. This can actually be a depressing track for me, but overall it usually makes me happy. What's special for you?

Yeah. It often fits my life well, when something is bothering me, I listen to it, it reflects what I feel like well.

Yeah, the aforementioned Hallelujah by Jeff Buckley and Hurt by Johnny Cash are probably my favourites. Although Coldplay do a good job on 'Ring of Fire,' Chris' voice doesn't quite go that low. :) Also, Stevie Ray Vaugn played awesome Hendrix covers when he was playing.

ehhh... Haha, my band is covering The Scientist. No real discredit to the original, though, big fans that we are. We've replaced the piano with a harp, so it's a different sort of sound. Same tempo and song structure, though. We play it acoustic, just my guitar and the harp. At the end we say "Euuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuussstlllerrr" though after the most adorable child you could every imagine. A HARP?? Are you sure?? :P Yes. You know I meant harmonica yes? I say that to people at times because it's instinct and they thing I mean the stringed instrument.

Love the one for proof. :) And 'Till Kingdom Come.

I was just reading something about the Edge. He said something along the lines of how he doesn't practice. He comes into the studio having not practiced. He says it helps him be at odds with the instrument, have no expectations other than for it to be his sonic bitch. :) If only I could be that good. Also, when you think about it, from the time he started guitar to the time he was on a major label EP, he'd only been playing five years. Total.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. For me, there were a whole lot of drunk, shirtless college people. Which was good and bad. During Franz Ferdinand beforehand, I was getting grinded on by some amazingly breasted scantily-clad college woman who'd been drinking. A lot. To my right were a whole bunch of college guys who smuggled in a whole fifth of whiskey. However, by the time the show started and the crush to the front began, I was surrounded by people who sang every word to White Shadows and Everything's Not Lost. :) I could tell it was a mainly 'Yellow' kind of crowd, although there were a good number of hardcore fans near the front where I was.

ehhh... Haha, my band is covering The Scientist. No real discredit to the original, though, big fans that we are. We've replaced the piano with a harp, so it's a different sort of sound. Same tempo and song structure, though. We play it acoustic, just my guitar and the harp. At the end we say "Euuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuussstlllerrr" though after the most adorable child you could every imagine.

Great points, An. Although I don't think War was that amazing of an album. Some brilliant moments, but overall I wouldn't rank it with the others. Achtung Baby, though, is a masterclass. I also agree that we don't know who Coldplay is trying to be or trying not to be. Although I did read somewhere they admitted the large U2 influences on X&Y, so I am not sure. And about the just enjoying the music, yeah that's the goal. I can sit back and listen to X&Y and enjoy it, yeah, but when I'm looking for something that makes me go, "God damn, this is brilliant" like I did when I first heard The Joshua Tree, I can't listen to it.

Thanks for all of the responses! Anyways, pushing on with it... Winnie, valid points indeed. I must clarify however. I'm not saying that Coldplay is my bar for other bands I like, such as Radiohead and U2, simply that I think they're attempting to emulate them too much. I can understand how some people wouldn't agree with me, but it's something I've noticed they're doing very much recently. I was listening to The Hardest Part and it hit the chorus and I started singing Wild Honey by U2 off of ATYCLB, because the Coldplay song was so similar to U2's. I love Coldplay, they're my most consistently favourite band, I just think they should try to stick to their own. Not repeating Parachutes or AROBTTH, good point, but simply sticking with the formula of going a bit different, a different style, and sounding really good as they do it. As it is for many people, 'Fix You' is my favourite track off of X&Y. Yet U2 nor Radiohead have produced something like it. They're going on their own and it's beautiful. It's seriously among my favourite songs I've heard, period, I listen to it as much as the soaring 'With Or Without You' or the amazing 'Street Spirit.' However, there are tracks on X&Y that are dull and that need the energy and creativity of other songs, that was all. I'm just saying they need to change the formula some for Album 4. Also, as to Nettie. I don't mind their attire. I love it, in fact, I love seeing how Chris gets so drenched in sweat he has to change before the encore, the holes in the back of his shirt, you get the picture. They all look very comfortable in their attire. I mean, for the love of God, when I saw them it was 107 degrees and they were in all black! That takes definate bravado. Anyways, I don't think they can complain about not being able to remember songs. U2 still plays songs from 'War' in 1983, then there's bands like the Rolling Stones who are playing songs for 40 years, and the Eagles doing the same. Coldplay's been around, what, 5 or 6 years? :) They can surely remember stuff from that far back. And Sparky, yes the Arcade Fire could overtake them, they are seriously one of the most talented bands in the world right now. Just gobsmacking musicians, and they still only have one album done. If they repeat the brilliance of the first album, they'll definately be up there with Coldplay. And yes, I agree that Coldplay could definately be as good as U2. It's all about desire. U2's third release was War, which isn't as good as AROBTTH but is on par or better than X&Y. It was really only by U2's fifth (maybe sixth?) album that they came into it and hit their peaks (The Joshua Tree). And Coldplay haven't produced a crap album, just sort of a step back. U2 produced two albums in the mid 90's that weren't viewed so positively, but they came back with wonderful releases in 00 and 04. Coldplay still have a very long time to go, it's just seeing if they have the desire to go out and push their limits as a band.