Gautama

Mining In Yukon vs The Leningrad Cowboys

George Harrison vs Paul McCartney

Bringing up hidden homophobia is rather tiring, but as I see what you mean, I will - for the sake of the really important parts of my post- again declare that I'm for torture under extreme circumstances. ( Wich is unprecise and therefore wrong.) How do you see the rest of my post?

Jonny: You laugh at really peculiar things and sometimes— Thom: Yeah I can’t help that.

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Otis Redding

Mining in Yukon vs Daft Punk

George Harrison vs Cat Power

My opinion hasn't moved much. I decided to stick to my case, since it's a concrete example for such an extreme situation. So I'm leaving terrorism unconsidered, we had no concrete example there, which made things too unspecific and vague. Which imo led to generic posts about the dangers, which I guess everyone knows and sees. (I'd love to have a chat with Caroline though?) I'd like to correct my first post, I'm not FOR torture and have never been. But if an officer interrogates a person who is showing off gross traits of narcissim and delusion of grandeur and who has just picked up a million deutschmarks of ransom, and there is a kid missing, and he thinks he can just not talk - for me, such a person has lost the right to be unconditionally treated as a human being. Those kind of people need to be educated. I'm utterly aware of what I'm saying. I'm sick of judiciary's focus on the rights of offenders. There need to be some sort of very careful adjustments there and if anyone comes forward with an idea from beyond the realm of violence, that of course would be wonderful. Maybe now that I'm facing middle-age, I'm slowly becoming badass reactionary? Nope, I think that's no it.

That doesn't sound crazy, since it's very likely one of their biggest happiest dreams. I've ignored the whole 9/11- terrorism debate here, it's just so complex. But I think I'll take it into my considerations, too. Gotta go now, good night.

Yes! It took me ages to post that stuff and when I finally did, you had written and posted yours. So yes, the other eleven.

Still haven't boiled it down yet, hell, my head is full of knots. Anyway, my sentiments got nothing to do with the heart-wrenching or fainting feelings that those circumstances arouse. I'll be chewing on that sad shit a bit longer I guess. I hope you guys will win me over, but you'll need to bring up less generic arguments. I'm a hippie myself, you know. In dubio pro reo...well yes, of course, but... Wonder what the other 12 members in 'my' category made them vote there?

What you totally against torture say is good and sensible, of course. I have agreed and do agree on most points made. But I'm still chewing on cases like that abduction. That's one of the very extreme situations that leave me with the feeling that something is incredibly wrong with the current understanding regarding principles of proportionality in justice. And I'm asking again, how can the suspect in this very case be more important than..wait..i'll need to be more precise... How can his refusal....oh man, I'm having a difficult time to find and express the essential problem that I feel in there. I'll have to put more time into this, hmm, sorry.

The Who vs Pulp

:lol: Robbie Williams vs Roxy Music

The Who vs The The

Robbie Williams vs Take That

The Who vs The Smiths

The Who vs The Fuck Buttons

The Man With Testicular Pains in Tour De France and all the Cats Running After Him vs The Who

The Idiots

The Verve versus The Stone Roses

...I don't really know it's name, but it repeats 'Barbra Streisand' and it's quite catchy.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JLVtDhNE_4]YouTube - Dingaling - Judge Dread[/ame] :wacko:

Ah, ok. Well, it's full of crazy, really. But for me it was easier to strip Buddhist teachings bare of the clutter, than lets say of Christianity, which I was born into. B. exposed me to some concepts about the texture of the human mind which I found extremely liberating. But I never had the wish to call myself a Buddhist, because, like, who the effie cares, it's just a word. Yep, this stuff makes it impossible to follow! But that's the cultural side of tibetan B, it's what they put on top of it. The normal Tibetan surely mixes all that up, but I never experienced any of them being fascist about it. I have no idea how the historical Buddha interpreted sexuality, that would be interesting so to judge the value of his teachings. Haha, when I read your text about what the Dalai Lama says about sexuality ( oh gosh, poor mistreated organs :wink3: ), I wondered if he has ever tossed off ( impossible, since hands are not sexual organs?), uuh being a monk.... Well, he was born into this shit, just as much as Elisabeth R was born into hers. Difficult lifes! Sure, that's what I did. Of course you may, thank you Sir! So Norway seems to follow the general european trend? But I hope it'll be a center- right majority, not a far right one?