Mark

We'll agree to disagree. Personally though, I think anyone who pays that much to see a band for one song is wasting their time.

I disagree. I think people do go to more than one tour. No, they're not a majority, but they're certainly more than fifteen people, and it's not giving the rest of the crowd much credit to suggest they're happy just seeing the hits. I'm not saying "Muse, do the b-sides", I'm simply saying they should structure it a bit better so that they're not just playing the same few songs, every night, of every tour. So you don't see Plug In Baby? So what? Surely you'll see Feeling Good? Or Hysteria? Or if they drop that, they won't then replace it with one you're unlikely to know, will they? It just keeps things fresh, not only to those that have been to see them before, but it means that some songs, like New Born don't get tired and lethargic. Sometimes, it's best to stop playing something for a while and then rework and bring it back, like they did with the Origin performance. Like the current God Put A Smile Upon Your Face arrangement, Blur's renunion performance of Country House or Radiohead's Creep opening to 2009's Reading.

Does anyone have any idea what the supports might look like for the O2 shows?

I got six tickets for the Hyde Park show, and my girlfriend was gutted she couldn't go on that day. She lives not far from Wolverhampton. Win.

The sign-up thing for mailing list... Is that the membership needed for the presale do we know?

I think Arctic Monkeys have three hits; Brianstrom, When the Sun Goes Down and Dancefloor. They also happen to be three favourites. But is Plug In Baby a hit or a favourite? It didn't break the top 10 over here. Supermassive Black Hole reached number four and I wouldn't say that it's as revered as Citizen Erased, which reached number 122. Muse's undroppable songs, it would seem, are Plug In Baby, Starlight, Feeling Good, Knights of Cydonia, New Born, Supermassive Black Hole and Hysteria. All I was trying to say in the first place is that I think that's too much. Feeling Good, New Born and Plug In Baby all sound tired to me, and could do with a break from the set. I don't think that would put fans off from seeing them. You just go and see them again on the next leg/tour. And the reason, they said, they played Origin in full was that everybody had already seen the Resistance set before. That's not my judgement that people had seen it before, it's the band's. Sure, I know people that had seen it, but I also know people that had watched Glastonbury when it was broadcast live on tv over here. And I know people that keep tabs on them via YouTube and forums. Oh, and I would not want to see three hours of Muse. I love them, they're great. But there's such a thing as overstaying your welcome, and sometimes succinctness is better.

Arctic Monkeys often drop favourites such as Teddy Picker, Fake Tales of San Francisco, Mardy Bum and Cornerstone. It's just as nasty to charge extortionate ticket prices, and then play the same songs as ever. If most fans can't afford to see a band twice, why did Muse play the whole of Origin of Symmetry at a festival? On a single tour, some people can go to the arena leg, the stadium leg, and a festival. I did on the Resistance tour, and I know a lot of other people who did. Is anyone that bothered about seeing one particular song? I'm not saying play a set of b-sides, I'm just saying limit the untouchable songs to one or two, not the five or so that Muse currently have.

Smaller warm-up shows I'm thinking.

The band should judge all their songs the same and pick which ones are best for the show. Pick some of the hits that are relevant, and some of the deeper cuts. Rotate. That's what the back-catalogue is for. If you have five big hits, play three of them, and play two that the mega fans are likely to enjoy. Then rotate the next night. Ie, one night do Hysteria, Plug In Baby, Supermassive Black Hole, Cave and Dying Atheist, the next do Time Is Running Out, Feeling Good, Starlight, Sober and Blackout. It would encourage people to see them more, as you'd have to go to a few gigs to see all the hits (though come on, which fans really haven't seen Muse before?), it would alienate neither group of fans, and it would keep the setlist exciting. Radiohead and Arctic Monkeys do something similar; works okay for them...

I remember when I first joined this forum, Coldplay had just released Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall. I loved it by the third listen, and then I came on here, where the universal opinion was that it was rubbish. And I'm not going to lie, it affected my love of the song. I don't like it as much now. I came on here to find like-minded others, and it's one thing for people to be critical, or show their opinions, and it's another thing to come up against a wall of internet users all showing their disdain in "The Official ____ Hate Thread." And I understand that we don't all like the same thing, but if you're hopelessly in love with something, as I am with Coldplay, I'd rather not hear bad things about them, constructive or not. Because being a Coldplay fan, or a Keane fan for that matter, is often a lonely existence. They're not cool bands, and we live for those big gigs, for meeting others passionate about our band, and following a band is like following a sports team; you back them through thick and thin, and put up with the crap to get to the good times. It's totally fine to say what you think. It's more than fine; we're lucky to live in a culture that encourages it. But sometimes, it's just a bit tooooooooo bit intimidating.

Sometimes it upsets people though when their favourite album's criticised continually. Some people believe that the sounds you put in your ears define you as a person, and as a result, shout you into a corner and tell you that you're not good enough. That's why sometimes criticism might seem a bit much on the Coldplay section. Coldplay fans have to put up with that shit on a regular basis.

Cheers! Elastica were rubbish, to be fair.

Apparently there's an Elastica song about the breakup. Does anyone know which one it is?

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Your comment sounded a bit sarcastic, that's all :P I'm not having a go, sorry if it seemed that way!

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I think your friend's band is what we need more of in music: good old-fashioned solid rock music. Who cares if it sounds like Noel? Better than sounding like Liam.

It's the one that Noel said he liked, and think how much it would infuriate Liam? He could just do rhythm and backing vocals, he wants to work with Albarn, everyone needs to put the 90s past them etc. It would never happen, there'd be uproar from Blur fans, especially those that love Tracey Jacks, but hey... my setlist, my appearance from Noel :P

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Came up with my ideal Blur setlist: Essex Dogs [intro music] Girls and Boys / Bank Holiday Globe Alone Coffee & TV Song 2 There's No Other Way Out of Time (ft Moroccan orchestra that featured originally) Strange News From Another Star (new arrangement) Caramel Beetlebum Fool's Day For Tomorrow You're So Great (Coxon solo) To the End Parklife (ft. Phil Daniels) / Chinese Bombs This Is A Low No Distance Left to Run Battery In Your Leg Sing Sweet Song (Albarn solo, piano) The Universal (ft. Hypnotic Brass Ensemble and full string section) Encore 1: She's So High Popscene / We've Got A File On You Tracey Jacks (ft. Noel Gallagher) Tender (ft London Community Gospel Choir) Encore 2: Under the Westway

Oh, and the top comment on the Paradise video is "I love elephants now." Shit, elephants are mainstream.

I've got Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall as my ringtone. My alarm is Violet Hill. But then if that doesn't wake me up, I use Smack My Bitch Up as a back-up. I'll express my devotion for this band however I damn well like, thank you very much. 9gag (who I've only just heard of tonight) nor anyone else will come between that.

Haha I'm not, but they posted from my blog... ...which I have now removed. He is, but he's also the loveliest sometimes. He's a great musician, seems like a solid fella, and he's a hero. I didn't want to cause offence, but he was gracious enough. :)

They must do. It would be my favourite Blur video if they hadn't gone and smashed it with Coffee and TV. <3