Jenjie Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/19795981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 How many times have we heard of anti terror raids, but they have not found enough evidence to bring them to a court of law.... I reckon they should lock away the key whislt they invesgate it, and if they are innocent compesate afterwards ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenjie Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 from the sound of things, at least one of them is beyond the law now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Not been watching the news, that much as I start to take it personal and get para about getting the bus.... one thing dont do it again, and dont touch manchester... ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 How many times have we heard of anti terror raids' date=' but they have not found enough evidence to bring them to a court of law.... I reckon they should lock away the key whislt they invesgate it, and if they are innocent compesate afterwards ![/quote'] spoken like a true fascist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 I am not a facist, I am a center lefty however with the threat of terror ! and its causes I most add there is no torlerence ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 so, if you get arrested on 'suspicion', you'd be ok with being jailed indefinitely like all those 'terror suspects' in Cuba, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Yep !! without any questions asked even I would be willing to be arrested as I know I would be innocent ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 and what if they somehow decided to never let you go free, because you might be a terrorist, but they can't prove it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colduser Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Yep !! without any questions asked even I would be willing to be arrested as I know I would be innocent ! Bart. Locking up people on suspicion without any evidence is wrong. It is inhumane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 its that what has got us in the mess in the first place I reckon to many do gooders in the world ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colduser Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 You would rather have a police state then where you are not granted basic civil liberties? This attitude would be even more wreckless than my pascifist ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busybeeburns Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Yep !! without any questions asked even I would be willing to be arrested as I know I would be innocent ! Bart. Locking up people on suspicion without any evidence is wrong. It is inhumane. And a breach of the Human Rights Act (Article 6) no less The European Convention on Human Rights and Human Rights Act 1998 The most important part of the European Convention on Human Rights, in terms of criminal justice, is Article 6 , the right to a fair trial. This guarantees a public hearing within a reasonable time, and formally states the presumption of innocence. It specifies your minimum human rights, including the right: • To be informed of the case against you in a language you understand. • To enough time and facilities to prepare your defence. • To defend yourself and to have representation, free of charge when this is in the interests of justice. • To ensure that prosecution witnesses attend and can be cross-examined, and to call defence witnesses on the same terms. • To have an interpreter, if necessary, free of charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colduser Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Great info Ian, Thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 but what country actually follows that act... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busybeeburns Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 I knew my law training would come in handy at some point :wink3: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busybeeburns Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 but what country actually follows that act... :/ Unfortunately only countries who signed up to the convention in '51. Uk being one of them. Most countries in Europe are obliged to follow it. I'm not that fresh on Human Rights Law outside Europe though, but it'd be odds on that the Middle East is lagging way behind (assuming that the Middle East harbours terrorist individuals, which I can't possibly forecast can I :stunned: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 and what if they somehow decided to never let you go free' date=' because you [b']might[/b] be a terrorist, but they can't prove it? *sniff sniff* this reeeeks of the Patriot Act... :idea2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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