awww shit that shooting incident was so fucked. wat the hell is wrong with those police. shouldve been wearing uniform

 

Yeah there's just no justification, obviously was a misunderstood but what a big fault of Brittish police...

i say a ridiculously strong taser would cripple and paralyse any fool

 

An electric taser and explosives. Fun fun.

 

it would have no effect at all on the explosives

I am 100% behind the shoot-to-kill policy

 

If your were a policeman, with the job of protecting a tube station when it's busy and there are bombers on the loose and try to stop someone who looks "funny", but he runs away, and you give chase, and he gets near a crowded train, do you shot him to stop him blowing up himself and killing a lot of innocent people?

 

He was a prat to run away, what would people say if he was a terrorist and was planning to blow up that tube that morning?

Regardless, the police were a little too trigger happy in this circumstance.

but the guy ran!!! Why did he run??? :huh: I don't know... but all I can say, is that if this would've happened in the US.... :stunned: I think Scotland Yard is handling this rather well.

If this had happened in the US, I'm not sure what the reaction would have been. It just doesn't seem right what happened.

I agree with you. Police shouldn´t act like this, they could do something, because they have many different aways of controling the suspect. But i think the british are really scared - don´t come with this history about they´re used with terrorism because of IRA - this war is different. Crazy british citizens are attacking.

At least the authorities are worry about the guy and his family. Here, this thing happens all the time and nobody cares. It´s really ironic. I´d rather die in England than here in Brazil.

*NEW FLASH*

apparently the guy ran because his Visa expired

If this had happened in the US' date=' I'm not sure what the reaction would have been.[/quote']

 

Everyone would be crying "hate crime" and "policemen are racist" until kingdom come. He was Brazilian, correct?

this reminds me---a few months ago---a teenage, african american boy, age 14 or so, was killed by a police man.

 

the boy had gotten on the cops car and was backing up the car---obviously he was taking the car--but the police man had no right to shoot him 5 times or so-----

when asked why he did it---he said it was in self defense because the kid was planning to run him over------

self defense??? when he is just a teenager---the cop is clearly far away from the car---thats bullshit :P

The worst thing Police can do :dozey:

Yeah, the guy ran because his visa had expired and was probably afraid that him and his family would get deported. Very evil isn't he..... :shame:

*NEW FLASH*

apparently the guy ran because his Visa expired

 

 

ahh!! I didn't know this.. well, then. Now I have to really think about this, shooting to kill....hmmm, I don't know. :huh:

Um...yes! I want the police to protect me and others from terrorists, you know the fanatics willing to blow themselves up to destroy western civilization!?! It's too bad the London police killed an innocent man, but he fit a terrorist profile (he left from a house were suspected terrorist suspects stayed which was later raided by police, he was wearing a big coat on a warm day which could have been covering a bomb, and when asked to stop by police, he ran onto a subway car). So yes, in this time of increased terrorist threats police need to not take any chances; people need to cooperate with police, otherwise they'll end up shot to death like the poor guy in London. :/

Let's see what happens in the future... :dozey:

Um...yes! I want the police to protect me and others from terrorists' date=' you know the fanatics willing to blow themselves up to destroy western civilization!?! It's too bad the London police killed an innocent man, but he fit a terrorist profile (he left from a house were suspected terrorist suspects stayed which was later raided by police, he was wearing a big coat on a warm day which could have been covering a bomb, and when asked to stop by police, he ran onto a subway car). So yes, in this time of increased terrorist threats police need to not take any chances; people need to cooperate with police, otherwise they'll end up shot to death like the poor guy in London. :/[/quote']

 

That's a little harsh.

i heard that apparantly....it's a tradition to run away (or start a chase) from police in brazil??? can someone correct me if i'm wrong?

^Hmmm i don´t think this a tradition, but it´s fashion nowadays.

The fact is the police here can be easily confused with thieves. It´s such a mess and unsafe...I hate it. Human rights don´t exist for any of them. Millions of brazilians are killed by the police or outlaws every year withou mercy and I can´t see any authority doing something real to change this!

 

The guy came from the countryside and I guess he didn´t know that a good citizen must respect a real police, as is Scotaland Yard compared with brazilian...

 

It´s terrible, but I really think it was only his fault the cause of his death.

Um...yes! I want the police to protect me and others from terrorists' date=' you know the fanatics willing to blow themselves up to destroy western civilization!?! It's too bad the London police killed an innocent man, but he fit a terrorist profile (he left from a house were suspected terrorist suspects stayed which was later raided by police, he was wearing a big coat on a warm day which could have been covering a bomb, and when asked to stop by police, he ran onto a subway car). So yes, in this time of increased terrorist threats police need to not take any chances; people need to cooperate with police, otherwise they'll end up shot to death like the poor guy in London. :/[/quote']

 

That's a little harsh.

 

Unfortunately it's a little REALISTIC, I mean the police the world over are on high terrorist alert, they don't want themselves or civillians killed, so guess what: don't give them any shit, if you're not guilty of a crime don't run from them or fight with them and they won't hurt you. And if you are guilty or on the run for something like an expired visa as I think the Brazillian guy in London was, still don't run (especially onto public transportation) as the police will automatically think you're a potential terrorist and kill you to prevent any potential attack. Bottom line: running from police is never a good idea under any circumstances if you value your freedom and health; running from police only makes things worse for anyone under any circumstance. :wink3:

when people are in a tight situation--specially with police---they get the urge to run and escape----that should not cost u your life---i know my instincts would tell me to run and not get caught--but i shouldnt lose my life over it :P

 

no it should not happen

:P

It SHOULD not happen... In an ideal world.

 

Unfortunately we DON'T live in one... We can aim for ideals, but in this situation when it comes down to it, do we have a better choice/option?

 

Yes, I agree that the man should not have been shot. BUT, given the circumstances, does anyone here who's giving the police flak have a better alternative (with less serious consequences)? I say until we find that better idea to stop pilloring the police force and bringing down their morale (not that there's much chance they'd be reading this thread anyway but it's still unfair :dozey: ).

dont u see?? that's how it starts-----if u start giving the police freedom to shoot to a "possible terrorist" next thing u know---they will shoot anyone with the excuse of "possible terrorist" ----read ma signature

 

one thing u have to think----would it still be fair if it was someone in your family???? cause if the person shot was ur dad or brother and it still seems fair to u---then maybe ur right

 

personally no----i do not excuse the shooting

I know what you mean... Like you would have noticed earlier in all my posts before this thread... I lean quite strongly towards individual rights and "innocent until proven guilty". But in this case, my opinion is that the police were trying their best to do their jobs, and I find it hard to say how they could have done it better.

 

Regarding the "give them a bit and they'll take the lot" thing... I agree. But I think you would have to look at the constitutions and laws of the respective countries. You see if it happened in the US, I would say that the police should have had more restraint. But I think the law (and constitution) applies a little differently in the UK.

 

Therefore, I say the fault in this case would lie with the lawmakers/parliamentarians and not the police force. Like I said earlier, they're just doing their jobs the best they can within the boundaries of the law.

 

If something like this happened to my family, I'd be blaming the society as a whole rather than the police. They were trying to protect everyone else

Probably if the word RESPECT was real in this world, life would be worth living.

let's just shoot him 5 times in the head to make sure he's dead :idea2:

 

shoot him in the leg to injure him, don't kill him completely. what's worse is that the police haven't expressed regret at what has happened - if they came out and said that they sincerely regret what had happened, then fair enough - but the fact that they have said this will happen again, it's ridiculous - you just can't fight terrorism the way the governments are going about it - the mania the governments have made terrorism out to be is just communism all over again - the same decisions, the same mistakes.

 

if the world has come to the point where civil liberties are being continually exploited, then what has society come to - all i can say is that it's all downhill from here.