LifeLight Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Chris Martin 'devastated' by bad reviews Monday, September 5 2005, 11:12 BST -- by Daniel Saney Chris Martin has admitted that poor reviews of Coldplay's work gets the band down. Although latest album X&Y have generally have had good things to say, there have been several strong detractors including Rolling Stone and the New York Times who have had less than kind words about their efforts. Martin told the New York Post: "The truth is it really does affect us. "And this is the first time that we've responded to it. That's why we're having trouble knowing how to answer. "There's no harm admitting that you're human and these things bring you down. That New York Times thing, yeah, it was f***ing devastating for us.'" From DigitalSpy Chris Martin: 'Bad reviews Are F***ing Devastating For Us' Category: SOFTPEDIA NEWS :: Entertainment :: Music Coldplay's frontman Chris Martin revealed the bad critics about the band's music are devastating for them, decreasing their moral. By: Entertainment News Staff Coldplay's frontman Chris Martin revealed that bad critics about the band's music are devastating for them, decreasing their moral. Chris, 28, married with actress Gwyneth Paltrow, confessed that, although "X&Y" had good reviews and great sales, the bad critics receiver from The Rolling Stones and New York Times really affected them. Martin told the New York Post: "The truth is it really does affect us. And this is the first time that we've responded to it. That's why we're having trouble knowing how to answer. There's no harm admitting that you're human and these things bring you down. That New York Times thing, yeah, it was f***ing devastating for us,'" Chris added. From SoftPedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Critics - pah! Who needs 'em? Let's just listen to the material and make up our own minds!! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camofire Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 does anyone have the new york times review? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 But i think what should prove to them that people like their music is when their concerts sell out in 12 minutes and when they HAVE to add extra dates and shit like that. Thats what they should take more notice off, the fans cause if people really did hate their stuff we wouldnt be going to see them live...would we now :/ :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sienna Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 i think chris definitely needs to read this amazing quote, it helps me: "Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong" Oscar Wilde. he needs to remeber that sometimes one can never be succesful at everything. if the cd would have gotten amazing reviews, it only would have put them in even a worst mood. because that would mean that in the next album they need to top the one before... (anyone understands what i'm trying to say) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Yes, I agree. What Firthy said is true, too. He can't let the bad overcome the good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard2xplain Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Glad to see that he's hurt by the reviews, because any Coldplay fan knows that they can make a much better album. Maybe this will push them to move away from the whole U2 approach next time. I still love Coldplay, but X&Y is uber average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sienna Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 yes, but that only pushes them to do ten times better.... but setiously how many times critics have been wrong? eminem is a big example, he even won an oscar for saying a bunch of words really fast with some beat at the background. no art involved... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard2xplain Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Bad example. "Lose Yourself" was a good song, whether or not like you like Eminem, rap, or the amount of radio play it got. The critics weren't wrong with X&Y. Rolling Stone is usually pretty terrible, but these 2 quotes perfectly desribe the album: "Whereas Rush of Blood was a nervy bid for bigness, X&Y is something less exciting. It's the serious sound of Martin trying to sing songs that match his stature. It's the sound of a blown-up band trying not to deflate." "Martin has talked about how hard he worked on this album, and it shows: Nothing on it sounds easy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sienna Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 dont mean to start a debate, but how is :"lose yourself" a good song. i accept that rap isnt my fav genre, but im not too headstrong to admit when a song is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sienna Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 jay-z and kanye are far better artist than eminem, they show more artistic quality to their songs. they are versatile and arent afraid to colaborate with artist outside their musical niche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Fox Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Chris.....don't be upset too much, most people love Coldplay's music, just cuz some twats like that try to bring you down, just try to ignore 'em.......or if possible, get a sniper rifle and kill them :sneaky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sienna Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 "Aim for success, not perfection. Never give up your right to be wrong, because then you will lose the ability to learn new things and move forward with your life." Dr. David M. Burns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephBerryman Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 a :kiss: to chris for his hurt feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessa Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 c'mon Martin...................................... :dozey: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachhh24 Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Don't worry Chris, you still have us! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 But i think what should prove to them that people like their music is when their concerts sell out in 12 minutes and when they HAVE to add extra dates and shit like that. Thats what they should take more notice off' date=' the fans cause if people really did hate their stuff we wouldnt be going to see them live...would we now :/ :smug:[/quote'] True, true, true!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 We love you Chris! :) Chris Martin= Legend. I agree Coldplay have lots of fans and lots of people go to their concerts, so it doesn't really matter about bad revies. "always look on the bright side of life." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeLight Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 All I can read on the NYTimes website: ARTS AND LEISURE DESK | June 5, 2005, Sunday MUSIC; The Case Against Coldplay By JON PARELES (NYT) 1378 words Late Edition - Final , Section 2 , Page 1 , Column 1 DISPLAYING FIRST 50 OF 1378 WORDS - THERE'S nothing wrong with self-pity. As a spur to songwriting, it's right up there with lust, anger and greed, and probably better than the remaining deadly sins. There's nothing wrong, either, with striving for musical grandeur, using every bit of skill and studio illusion to create a sound large enough... And this is the Rolling Stone one: Coldplay X&Y * * * Originally released: 2005 Capitol Records Inc. Coldplay didn't seem destined for bigness. Their 2000 debut, Parachutes, was full of drizzly but pretty rock ballads that were almost memorable enough to prevent American listeners from confusing the band with Travis. Of course, that album also included a huge, soaring song called "Yellow," which may well be inspiring a drunken singalong in your local bar as you read this. "Yellow" was a smash, but what came next was even smashier. In 2002, Coldplay released A Rush of Blood to the Head, which perfectly captured the heady feeling of a small band acting big. The band's sad-sack frontman, Chris Martin, transformed himself with so much swagger and so many hooks that even 50 Cent had to pay tribute, turning Martin's ambivalent lyric into a greasy boast: "God gave me style, God gave me grace." The rest of the band supplied Martin with propulsive rhythms, giving their newly pushy leader something to pull against, and the songs were even better; the band had mastered the art of writing graceful ballads that were both deceptively simple and fiendishly hard to dislodge from the human brain. Since then, Martin has become a worldwide rock star, for better and for worse. He has a wife named Gwyneth and a baby named Apple, who just turned one, and who probably already knows what "paparazzi" means. On the other hand, Martin's newfound notoriety has meant more exposure for his favorite causes, such as fair trade. Compared to all the hubbub about Chris Martin the celebrity, his band's return to the American pop charts was a bit of a letdown. Coldplay began the campaign for X&Y with "Speed of Sound," an appealing but not thrilling song (it sounds a bit like Rush of Blood's "Clocks" but without the swagger). Whereas Rush of Blood was a nervy bid for bigness, X&Y is something less exciting. It's the serious sound of Martin trying to sing songs that match his stature. It's the sound of a blown-up band trying not to deflate. Like the previous one, this album starts in outer space. Last time, there were those roiling piano chords of "Politik" and an audacious opening: "Look at Earth from outer space/Everyone must find a place." This time there's an atmospheric hum, and Martin murmurs, "The future's for discoverin'/The space in which we're travelin'." Drummer Will Champion enters with a tense rhythm, Guy Berryman adds one of those hurtling- forward bass lines, and Jonny Buckland doubles it with a skinny guitar line -- there's plenty to listen to, but not a lot to love. Luckily, this album contains its share of lovely ballads that sound, well, Coldplay-ish: Thanks to Keane and other imitators, Coldplay's name has become an adjective. One of the best is "Fix You," an unabashedly sentimental song where Martin delivers words of encouragement in a gentle falsetto. "Lights will guide you home/And ignite your bones/And I will try to fix you," he sings, proving once more that no band can deliver a stately rock ballad like this one. And although "Twisted Logic" may be an obvious Radiohead rip-off (with a title that sounds alarmingly Fred Durst-ish), the members find ways to build suspense while progressing toward that inevitable crashing climax. Still, a surprising number of songs here just never take flight, from "The Hardest Part" (which actually gets less catchy as it goes along) to "A Message," which might actually be too Coldplay-ish: "My song is love," Martin announces, and you might find yourself wishing it weren't. Martin has talked about how hard he worked on this album, and it shows: Nothing on it sounds easy -- maybe 50 Cent made off with a little bit of his style and grace. X&Y does find ways to reward persistent listeners, especially those who make it all the way past the end to the bonus track, "Till Kingdom Come," which is the most casual thing on the album (it starts with Martin counting) and maybe the best. "I don't know which way I'm going/I don't know which way I've come," he sings, accompanied by little more than an acoustic guitar, and after what's come before, it's an unexpected delight to hear him sound so small again. KELEFA SANNEH (Posted giu 16, 2005) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swallowedinamessage Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 in my eyes that Rolling Stone review is just pure bullshit :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Fox Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Fuck Rolling Stones, the bloody bastards :angry: ............I'm annoyed by that. They slagged down practically everything about Coldplay there! That review is as bad as the Crazy Frog getting to number one, if not, worse! :angry: :angry: :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Raptor of Nonsense Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Why is every Coldpaly discussion in here an either-or argument? Why are we trying to justify the album's sucktitude rather than discuss whether Chris' reaction to reviews is overblown? Of course you can't please everyone, but when people of a respectable class begin to slander your album and exaggerate its lousiness, yeah, I think you have a reason to be 'devastated'. The Rolling Stone review was at least respectable, though, it didn't outline only the bad. The NY review, contrarily, was out-and-out nasty. Even from an impartial view, Coldplay are hardly 'insufferable', though some might get sick of them. That's you being sick of them, not them sickening the whole blamed world. That is, the band is not insufferable. I don't think I can say that much for their self-involved fanbase that argue their biases, whether for or against the album, without discussing any merits beyond personal opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Fox Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 ................................................c'moooooon, at least we're not posting irrelevant things and such................... :snore: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemah Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 unfortunatly after the massive success during 2003 people were just waiting to write bad reviews. i bet loads of te journalist knew whatthey were going to write months before the album ever came out. unfortunatly the media backlash is just a matter of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard2xplain Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Why is every Coldpaly discussion in here an either-or argument? Why are we trying to justify the album's sucktitude rather than discuss whether Chris' reaction to reviews is overblown? I don't think anyone thinks that X&Y sucks, I was just saying it's a disappointment. Parachutes and AROBTTH set very high standards, and X&Y is just good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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