Sure, but since you CAN'T prevent rape...then you have to be a strong, big person (on the inside mostly) to overcome that and still be a good mom. It is almost impossible, but head for the possibility and don't be negative bout it.

i don't think she's being negative AT ALL, she's just being realistic. I'm sure that there are some amazing women who'd be able to keep a child after being raped, but they're not a majority.Most girls end up like shit after being raped,they change their attitudes (i know this from an experience of a friend of mine) and if they have to go through pregnancy and labor and the raising of that unwanted child, i just think it's unfair for those girls.And by the way, what happens when the child asks (which is pretty sure he will) who his father is, and why he isn't with his mother?? what would you say?

abortion except in special occasions is nothing more then murder...

So..how come she can do it...? if you see that it is possible...why ignore that? However that tragedy happens to...it can be done!

 

Sure, it is a tough thing to do..but don't make that an excuse to get rid of the child

 

(and about the labor thing being painful) sure it is and just because it was a rape case, that doesnt make it different from any other (planned) pregnancy..so ignore that factor.

 

 

A large chunk of women end up regretting the abortions because there are so many what if's ..think of that. Living the rest of your life wondering what would it have been like to keep it. That has happened in many cases. And these women don't usually admit it, because they made those same excuses years before, being dead set on gettin rid of it ...not thinking of what they could feel like in the future

Negative? Well, that's your opinion. And duh that you can't prevent rape. Who the hell goes out and asks to get raped. Not a damn woman would unless you're completely mental and asking for attention in the most horrific circumstances.

 

I wouldn't know what to say if I did choose to keep it and later on, my child would have asked about his/her father.

 

And as far as me being real and telling how it is, what if you were bi-polar or extremely clinically depressed and you got raped. Chances are, this could put you into an emotional comatose and you *possibly* could take your own life and the child's as well or lose the baby because of such a high, intense amount of distress.

 

Its all easy, said and done to sit here and say how you think things should be and what all anyone would do, but you can sugarcoat the truth and turn your back on reality. All I know is that abortion is right and wrong. Right if you got raped by some assbag, wrong if this is your 5th pregnancy and you still are out having wild and unprotected sex.

If I got raped and I had an abortion, 10 years from now, when I'm married and I have had my first child with my husband (all theoretical right now), I'm not going to be regretting it and thinking of random 'what-ifs' regarding an unfair action.

why should the child be murdered for the mistake of its father??? why pay for his/her fathers sin? its sad rape happens, and all rapist should have the shit beat out of them and put away for life..but we simply cannot kill teh child for the sins of the father.

luckyly my friend didn't get pregnant, but i'm sure that if she had she would've abort it for being so young (about 11 or 12)

 

women don't abort just for the hell of it, as i said before, it takes balls to make that decision and i sticks in their conscience for a long time, but if a girl chooses to do it it's only because she thought it through

If I got raped and I had an abortion' date=' 10 years from now, when I'm married and I have had my first child with my husband (all theoretical right now), I'm not going to be regretting it and thinking of random 'what-ifs' regarding an unfair action.[/quote']

 

you;d be able to live with the fact you had your own child killed?

OF course that is my opinion...of your opinion of my opinon...it's a debate :wink:

 

 

of course rape can't be prevented, I only said it there to reiterate something.

 

Yeah, but there are women who get divorced, or become widowed, and the such ..and in those situations a mother has to explain where the absent father is...and to tell the kid....the truth, when he/she is ready to understand...it will hurt and all that ...

 

but just know that, like i said there are just things in this life that we have to deal with. It's a hard life. But if you are a good enough parent, you can rise to this situation and give your child the life and mental stabitity he/she deserves.

Yeah, but there are women who get divorced, or become widowed, and the such ..and in those situations a mother has to explain where the absent father is...and to tell the kid....the truth, when he/she is ready to understand...it will hurt and all that ...

 

but just know that, like i said there are just things in this life that we have to deal with. It's a hard life. But if you are a good enough parent, you can rise to this situation and give your child the life and mental stabitity he/she deserves.

 

first of all, how can you compare explaining a kid his father has passed to telling him his daddy forced her mother to have sex with him and then he was born?? it doesn't make any sense at all

 

second, how can anyone give a child stability when she doesn't have it herself. As i said, raping leaves a girl completely crushed,her mind ends all messed up...and you ask her to raise the child with love?? the child that came from that terrible and traumatic experience??

its called putting teh baby up for adoption NOT killing it...and isnt it more wrong to kill the child then to tell him/her its father was a sick evil person??

NOOO

 

can you imagine the head of that child?? finding out he/she was not wanted by her mother or her father,and her mother didn't even know her fathe or less agreed to have sex with him

 

would you like to be a part of that crap??

^^^^ Right idea...if the mom can't do it...find a family member willing to..and if that fails, an adoption agency...it's not fair AT ALL to the child if the life is ended premature to knowing if there will be defects (as greencouture mentioned).

Because you can't just naturally assume that it will have defects.

 

I am not comparing it in the same way as one is more natural than the other...what was meant by it is things come up in life that aren't "convenient" to people, but some explaining still has to be done

NOOO

 

can you imagine the head of that child?? finding out he/she was not wanted by her mother or her father,and her mother didn't even know her fathe or less agreed to have sex with him

 

would you like to be a part of that crap??

 

yeah..then THE CHILD will have the decision of life or death...they would be able to decide to if they wanna live...but its a hell of alot better then killing the thing...murder is wrong no matter how you slice it.

so your sayings it more moral to kill it then let the child know the truth about its father and not being wanted...even if the child is not wanted that doesnt mean he/she will have a bad life, its very likely though...but its better to give them a chance then to just kill them.

NOOO

 

can you imagine the head of that child?? finding out he/she was not wanted by her mother or her father,and her mother didn't even know her fathe or less agreed to have sex with him

 

would you like to be a part of that crap??

 

 

Let's not twist up ideas here, Maiu...

no one no one no one WANTS to be a part of that...it is a cruel thing, Maui...

 

But this comes the time to be an adult about things (because actually HAVING , the child in your hands chages a person and makes em see it in different light)

 

Why not give it a shot if you are in the situation?

it's not murder if it's done during the first weeks!!

 

are you a catholic?? because i'm gonna paraphrase the bible to make my point

i read somewhere that it says the life doesn't start until there's blood, and that doesn't happen for the first couple of weeks.Like many people said here, it's like throwing a condom to the trash...it was a potencial life but nothing else

it's not murder if it's done during the first weeks!!

 

are you a catholic?? because i'm gonna paraphrase the bible to make my point

i read somewhere that it says the life doesn't start until there's blood, and that doesn't happen for the first couple of weeks.Like many people said here, it's like throwing a condom to the trash...it was a potencial life but nothing else

it's not murder if it's done during the first weeks!!

 

are you a catholic?? because i'm gonna paraphrase the bible to make my point

i read somewhere that it says the life doesn't start until there's blood, and that doesn't happen for the first couple of weeks.Like many people said here, it's like throwing a condom to the trash...it was a potencial life but nothing else

triple post, sorry, my computer is a turtle today

it's not murder if it's done during the first weeks!!

 

are you a catholic?? because i'm gonna paraphrase the bible to make my point

i read somewhere that it says the life doesn't start until there's blood, and that doesn't happen for the first couple of weeks.Like many people said here, it's like throwing a condom to the trash...it was a potencial life but nothing else

 

im not catholic..nor would i ever be haha... it is murder in week one..what gives you the right to say its not? just like what gives me the right to say it is? i dont know for certian if it is, i believe it is, so i would think it wise to err on teh side of life....

I agree, life is the most difficult thing for any human being to go through.

 

To mrcool011, I'd be heartbroken to the fullest extent, and I didn't mean that I would just forget about and move on. Gracious no. I'm so emotional, I truthfully wouldn't know how to deal with it 10 yrs from now.

 

I do have a question: How do you rate/judge yourself as a "good-enough parent" to be able to get through that? It brings me back to my last point of being bi-polar or some other mentally ill state-of-mind; there are chances that you may never be able to overcome that.

 

I really hope I'm not coming off as a bitch, I just want people to see that there's more to just assuming that if you keep it, its all going to be "honky-dory" and life will be oh-so-peachy afterwards.

My computer must be really slow, or you people type fast.

 

From ClearAsCrystal: "Because you can't just naturally assume that it will have defects"

 

Why would you want to take that chance of knowing after 9 months of carrying, that when that head pops out and they do tests, it comes out knowing the kid has AIDS. Then what? Let it live and suffer, but hey, atleast it gets to live.

 

And by the way, I'm a Catholic, and I'd still get one if I was forced/chose to.

if your not a good enough parent or dont believe you are. put the child up for adoption...i just see no need to kill the child unless you have to because of a medical reason...