9/11 - The Inside Job **NEW INFO & UPDATES WHEN THEY HAPPEN**

[GazeboflossUK]

Great post. thanks for the link.

 

Come on! You've posted all this stuff before.....lol....your widing me up. I know it......lol.

 

Cheaky chappy.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

Come on! You've posted all this stuff before.....lol....your widing me up. I know it......lol.

 

I dont think i posted those sites before.

[GazeboflossUK]

No, you didn't...but it's all the same stuff...kinda.

 

 

Ok then.....so we are playing this game Mr Smut...

 

Read all this within these sites.....because I have.

 

http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html

 

http://911research.wtc7.net/

 

http://www.911review.com/

 

http://septembereleventh.org/

 

Easy isn't it, huh?

 

That should keep you going for weeks and weeks, trust me.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

Someones mad because their is alot of evidence agaisnt their theories....

[GazeboflossUK]

Mad? Who?....no no.

 

Not me. I've posted enough to care not whether you and a couple others bring up this "EVIDENCE". It's that quick thoughtless answer I'm used to from some people.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

Couple? haha you're the couple. i have numbers on my side. the majority of people dont side with your beliefs.

[GazeboflossUK]

Ok then. There's more of you now - so you win.....

 

Damn.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

Ok then. There's more of you now - so you win.....

 

Damn.

 

It;s more like only a few people are crazy enough to believe in it. like the whole david keresh(sp?) cult. things this far out only far out people believe.

[GazeboflossUK]

Yeah, yeah.....we are all nuts :rolleyes:

 

Dispite all the things I post that aren't.

 

 

I've got better things to do..

 

bye.

[amsterdam528]

Couple? haha you're the couple. i have numbers on my side. the majority of people dont side with your beliefs.

 

lol as Stephen Colbert brilliantly pointed out in his show last night, just because the majority of people believe it, doesn't make it true. He used Wikipedia as an example and encouraged people to say that the number of elephants has tripled in the last 6 months. And people wrote that in the article, and now it's locked from editing.

 

Just cause something or someone says something's true, it doesn't make it true. I kinda feel bad for you and the millions of people who are falling right into the government's hands. :(

 

The evidence is right in front of you to take. If you refuse it, that's your own fault. It's not mine or Gareth's or anyone else who has enough of an open mind to consider the possibility that all of this was a great plot to gain popular support for both the Republican Party and a slew of Middle Eastern wars.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

lol as Stephen Colbert brilliantly pointed out in his show last night, just because the majority of people believe it, doesn't make it true. He used Wikipedia as an example and encouraged people to say that the number of elephants has tripled in the last 6 months. And people wrote that in the article, and now it's locked from editing.

 

Just cause something or someone says something's true, it doesn't make it true. I kinda feel bad for you and the millions of people who are falling right into the government's hands. :(

 

The evidence is right in front of you to take. If you refuse it, that's your own fault. It's not mine or Gareth's or anyone else who has enough of an open mind to consider the possibility that all of this was a great plot to gain popular support for both the Republican Party and a slew of Middle Eastern wars.

 

 

the majority of people do not believe god was going to come back when haily's comet came by the last time, does it make them right because a few people believe it? the majority of the time things this far out are only believed by people who are far out. like most cults and conspiracy theories.

[an_cat]

Popularity does not equal truth or genius.

[amsterdam528]

The actions of the federal government leading up to, during, and following the attacks on 9/11 show that this isn't as farfetched as they would like to have you believe.

 

Once again I say to you, the evidence is right in your face. Not only is it written out in easy to understand captions, but every piece of information is cited.

[General Smut]

You still havent answered the question!

 

Why isnt Al-Jazerra all over this? Or Saddam, Castro, etc.

 

They would have a field day!!

[cplayer]

The actions of the federal government leading up to, during, and following the attacks on 9/11 show that this isn't as farfetched as they would like to have you believe.

 

Once again I say to you, the evidence is right in your face. Not only is it written out in easy to understand captions, but every piece of information is cited.

 

Edit.

[GazeboflossUK]

You still havent answered the question!

 

Why isnt Al-Jazerra all over this? Or Saddam, Castro, etc.

 

They would have a field day!!

 

Al-Jazerra is under CIA influence......they are the ones that play all these fake Osama Bin Laden tapes............they have to keep a negative US approach though as it allows them to be respected within the middle-east by the people who have been told to hate the US. And by providing a video to American networks of Osama bin Laden declaring 'holy war' against the United States the very day bombs began falling in Afghanistan, it at last brought itself into the American living room.

It's an mainstream Arab version of CNN.

 

And if Saddam or Castro knew about it (which they probably know very little) how would they ever have their full and frank comments broadcast to anyone when the mainstream media is owned and ran by the people who are benefiting from the post 9/11 wars.

 

Plus Saddam was even blamed partly by the US government (and the media ran with it) for the events on 9/11.....they wouldn't ever give him the time of day.....imagine Saddam sitting down for an interview about it??? Or ever being given a platform to say anything??? no.

 

There are lots of countries whose leaders have pranced around the knowledge that it indeed was an inside job....but not exactly saying it in so many words. Imagine how much trouble actually coming out and stating "the US government were responsible for the events on 9/11" would cause for ANY country, let alone a middle-eastern country. I actually wish they would as it needs to be done...

[GazeboflossUK]

WATCH THIS.

 

9/11 Truth: In-depth Kevin Barrett Interview on Wisconsin TV

 

This is the best, fairest, most thorough and in-depth interview I've seen on American telelvision in a long time. It makes you realize just how low we've sunk that the way Sean Hannity "interviews" his guests is normal for this day and age.

 

AND THE NEWS VIDEO - HERE

 

Sorry about the flip4mac overlay. I don't like it either. Friends don't let friends encode videos in crappy Microsoft formats.

[GazeboflossUK]

READ THIS ARTICLE....it took me two hours.

 

9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes

How did the U.S. Air Force respond on 9/11?

Could it have shot down United 93, as conspiracy theorists claim? Obtaining 30 hours of never-before-released tapes from the control room of NORAD's Northeast headquarters, the author reconstructs the chaotic military history of that day—and the Pentagon's apparent attempt to cover it up. VF.com exclusive: Hear excerpts from the September 11 NORAD tapes. Click PLAY after each transcript to listen. (Click text to go to the article)

[GazeboflossUK]

 

Third of Americans suspect 9-11 government conspiracy

 

THOMAS HARGROVE / Scripps Howard News Service | August 2 2006

 

Flashback: Zogby Poll: Over 70 Million American Adults Support New 9/11 Investigation

 

More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.

 

The national survey of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they "personally are more angry" at the government than they used to be.

 

Widespread resentment and alienation toward the national government appears to be fueling a growing acceptance of conspiracy theories about the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

 

Suspicions that the 9/11 attacks were "an inside job" _ the common phrase used by conspiracy theorists on the Internet _ quickly have become nearly as popular as decades-old conspiracy theories that the federal government was responsible for President John F. Kennedy's assassination and that it has covered up proof of space aliens.

 

Seventy percent of people who give credence to these theories also say they've become angrier with the federal government than they used to be.

 

Thirty-six percent of respondents overall said it is "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that federal officials either participated in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or took no action to stop them "because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East."

 

"One out of three sounds high, but that may very well be right," said Lee Hamilton, former vice chairman of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also called the 9/11 commission.) His congressionally appointed investigation concluded that federal officials bungled their attempts to prevent, but did not participate in, the attacks by al Qaeda five years ago.

 

"A lot of people I've encountered believe the U.S. government was involved," Hamilton said. "Many say the government planned the whole thing. Of course, we don't think the evidence leads that way at all."

 

The poll also found that 16 percent of Americans speculate that secretly planted explosives, not burning passenger jets, were the real reason the massive twin towers of the World Trade Center collapsed.

 

Conspiracy groups for at least two years have also questioned why the World Trade Center collapsed when fires that heavily damaged similar skyscrapers around the world did not cause such destruction. Sixteen percent said it's "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that "the collapse of the twin towers in New York was aided by explosives secretly planted in the two buildings."

 

Twelve percent suspect the Pentagon was struck by a military cruise missile in 2001 rather than by an airliner captured by terrorists.

 

That lower percentage may result from an effort by the conservative Washington-based Judicial Watch advocacy group to debunk the claim. The group filed claims under the Freedom of Information Act and got two fill loops released from Pentagon security cameras.

 

"Some people claim they can't see anything, but I see a plane hitting the Pentagon at incredibly high speed," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "I see the nose of the plane clearly entering the frame of one video and the tail of the plane entering the Pentagon in the other video."

 

Many conspiracy Web sites have posted the video loops and report the films are inconclusive or were manipulated by the government.

 

"Some folks will never be convinced," Fitton said. "But I'm hoping that these videos will dissuade reasonable people from falling into a trap with these conspiracy theories."

 

University of Florida law professor Mark Fenster, author of the book "Conspiracy Theories: Secrecy and Power in American Culture," said the poll's findings reflect public anger at the unpopular Iraq war, realization that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction and growing doubts of the veracity of the Bush administration.

 

"What has amazed me is not that there are conspiracy theories, but that they didn't seem to be getting any purchase among the American public until the last year or so," Fenster said. "Although the Iraq war was not directly related to the 9/11 attacks, people are now looking back at 9/11 with much more skepticism than they used to."

 

Conspiracy-believing participants in the poll agree their suspicions are recent.

 

"I certainly didn't think of conspiracies when 9/11 first happened," said Elaine Tripp, 62, of Tabernacle, N.J. "I don't know if President Bush was aware of the exact time it was going to happen. But he certainly didn't do enough to stop it. Bush was so intent on having his own little war."

 

Garrett Johnson, 19, of Manassas, Va., said it was "well after the fact" before he started questioning the official explanation of the attacks. "But then people I know started talking about it. And the Internet had a lot to do with this. After reading all of the different articles there, I started to think we weren't being told the truth."

 

The Scripps Survey Research Center at Ohio University has tracked the level of resentment people feel toward the federal government since 1995, starting shortly after Timothy McVeigh bombed the federal building in Oklahoma City. Forty-seven percent then said they, personally, feel "more angry at the federal government" than they used to. That percentage dropped to 42 percent in 1997, 34 percent in 1998 and only 12 percent shortly after 9/11 during the groundswell of patriotism and support for the government after the attacks.

 

But the new survey found that 77 percent say their friends and acquaintances have become angrier with government recently and 54 percent say they, themselves, have become angrier _ both record levels.

 

The survey also found that people who regularly use the Internet but who do not regularly use so-called "mainstream" media are significantly more likely to believe in 9/11 conspiracies. People who regularly read daily newspapers or listen to radio newscasts were especially unlikely to believe in the conspiracies.

 

"We know that there are a lot of people now asking questions," said Janice Matthews, executive director of 911Truth.org, one of the most sophisticated Internet sites raising doubts about official explanations of the attacks. "We didn't have the Internet after Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin or the Kennedy assassination. But we live in different times now."

 

Matthews' Web site averaged 4,000 "hits" a day last year, but currently has at least 12,000 visits every 24 hours. The site, according to its online policy statement, is dedicated to showing the public that "elements within the U.S. government must have orchestrated or participated in the execution of the attacks for these to have happened the way in which they did."

 

Participants in the poll were asked to respond to "several serious accusations that some people have made against the federal government in recent years." Five conspiracy theories were described and participants were asked if each was "very likely, somewhat likely or unlikely."

 

The level of suspicion of U.S. official involvement in a 9/11 conspiracy was only slightly behind the 40 percent who suspect "officials in the federal government were directly responsible for the assassination of President Kennedy" and the 38 percent who believe "the federal government is withholding proof of the existence of intelligent life from other planets."

 

The poll found that a majority of young adults give at least some credence to a 9/11 conspiracy compared to less than a fourth of people 65 or older. Members of racial and ethnic minorities, people with only a high school education and Democrats were especially likely to suspect federal involvement in 9/11.

 

The survey was conducted by telephone from July 6-24 at the Scripps Survey Research Center at the University of Ohio under a grant from the Scripps Howard Foundation. The poll has a margin of error of 4 percentage points.

 

(Thomas Hargrove is a reporter for Scripps Howard News Service. Guido H. Stempel III is director of the Scripps Survey Research Center at Ohio University.)

[General Smut]

So Al-Jazerra is controlled by the C.I.A.

 

Thats why they told the world about Americans torturing prisoners at Abu Ghraib, how British soldiers beat up iraqis etc

 

Yes very consistent behaviour. Sounds like they really are being controlled.

 

As for Saddam and Castro, as leaders of their countries and being a regional force i'm pretty sure they couldve arrange a newspaper interview or some TV time.

 

And besides Americans are very fickle people and not the smartest people in the world. They voted for George Bush - TWICE!! They'll believe anything. I'm more intrested in what the rest of the world thinks.

[General Smut]

http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/uploads/pentagon_nns_.jpg

 

theres alot of smoke for a cruise missle

 

http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/uploads/planepieces_nns_.jpg

 

funny looking 'missle wreckage' ( mustve been placed there after)

 

http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/uploads/downed-lamp-post_loc_.jpg

 

Super accurate cruise missle flattens lampost on route to the pentagon

 

And what about all the eye witnesses who say that saw a plane? Were they paid? were they all in on it? Why did no-one see a missle?

[General Smut]

http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/your-own-evidence.jpg

 

Note the plane parts that are painted in BOEING GREEN

 

http://www.journalof911studies.com/- Which is defeated by http://jod911.com/

 

e x c e r p t

title: Bogus 9/11 websites Muddying the waters with easily disproved phony claims

authors: Mark Robinowitz

[T]he 9/11 truth movement has been having long overdue successes in shifting public consciousness many more people now understand that 9/11 was not a surprise attack. This is probably why bogus websites and fake films with easily disproved material have been developed, which distract from the best evidence of complicity. These websites promote the idea that blurry photos with illogical and supported claims should be the basis for 9/11 truth outreach efforts, instead of the issues surrounding the failure of the Air Force to intercept the hijacked planes[.]

 

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

 

One of the more popular conspiracy theories out there like the fact that steel melts at 1525° C, and although jet fuel burns only at 825° C, it doesn't have to burn hot enough to melt to cause the buildings to collapse, since steel loses 50% of its strength at 648 ° C.

Your theories dont hold up. Stop watching movies!!!

[GazeboflossUK]

We've seen all this man.

 

It's THOSE theories which have been proved wrong....lol....

 

Apart from the Pentagon issue.....which is still a gray area......More lke a Global Hawk plane hit it.

[General Smut]

your changing stories more like.

 

Ive read countless theories on 9/11 and thats the first time ive heard "More lke a Global Hawk plane hit it."

 

Your twisting facts to influence other people.

 

If the government is prepared to kill thousands of its own citizens then why hasnt killed a few dozen of the conspircy theory guys? Whats another 50 on top of 3,000?

 

Jesus you are so narrow minded. The whole thing is to complex to have been an inside job, the logistics alone are mind boggling.

 

do you really expect a building to be full of explosives and no-one who works there isnt going to find out?

[GazeboflossUK]

Hey, I've mentioned my feelings on the Pentagon evidence many times.....and yes....I changed my view on it because some other, more logical evidence came to be....that's the way it goes.

 

I'M NARROW MINDED???!!!???!!!!

 

GOD , I know it's complex and I've read into EVERY single detail for the past 5 years. Unlike you who seems to be making these arguements based on a couple of google searches and copying/pasting some links.

 

I've covered EVERY detail and I now know exactly what I'm talking about. When I post info it's because I have investigated it fully and believe it to be right.