August 4, 200619 yr large parts of israel was owned by jews before hte nation was formed, many bought their land at a very high price too.
August 4, 200619 yr Before Israel was formed there were lots of Jews there living in Palastine. Quite a minorty. It was there homeland, but over the centuries they became scatterd throughout the world- Living in the homelands was hazardardous to a Jews health. Hitler happened and the world felt really bad and quilty for the Jews and thus Israel was formed to which millions flocked to over the years. The Palastines were really pissed off with this (dont blame them i would be to) and thus united the Arab world into hating Isreal and Jews. A short history of the troubles. Both sides want it all and dont want to share.
August 4, 200619 yr If the anger upsets you why did you then go and start a thread on the same subject? Can't really complain now.
August 4, 200619 yr And where in my post did i express anger? Where in Mrcool's posts did he express anger? Why isnt Maldini's posts refered to as anger? if you support their view fair enough, but why cant you recognise a different view? Why are suddenly angry and posting 'usless' posts? Is it only useless because it supports our view and not yours?
August 4, 200619 yr and everything you say is far left facist spin! so whats your point? I don't think I am a far lefty....and as for calling me a fascist... hahahahahah... I come from one of the most cosmopolitan places in the world ... Poem of Manchester i don't care if you're black, Chinese white or tan don't care if you're old, gay, a woman or man you can sit down next to me if you're mancunian in the rain by Mike Duff This is a typical attitude of a person of Manchester so don't... f###ing so please don't say that... and how could lefty be fascist.... u idiot plus I am mixed raced... who accepts everyone for whom they all, race, beliefs, innuendo's as long as they are balanced does not matter in my book.... I am very grateful for my upbringing as when I was a kid and I still do, I have friends that are Christians, Jews, Hindus, Seeks, Muslims, (Rastas) < this is what I got brought up as... Budahs, and hippies.... also anyone else... I belive in life and love.... if u watched the 5th element you will understand how I think when it comes to these issues !
August 4, 200619 yr If the anger upsets you why did you then go and start a thread on the same subject? Can't really complain now. I was just making a statment about the undertone of this thread ! Nowt else Ello mimi :)
August 4, 200619 yr You guys are sick. And Green Eyes......You say "finally someone with EYES!!".....Even after you said that people needed to live there to know what's really going on.....why are posts so perfect?......by what you have said previously he shouldn't know whether that news is correct or not. Which it isn't. ok, u have a point so i'll just say i agree with what he thinks
August 4, 200619 yr its people with right ring and blind views that are messing it up... and also ones that can not accept the truth *** better run some terroist is after me ! what makes u think u r the one accepting the real truth and not the ppl that disagree with u?
August 4, 200619 yr Sorry' date='but I will till you again [ They are owned just less than 5% '] and how they given the rest legally [ except if you consider the occupation war is a legal action ] it was agreed in the UN we conquered more land in 1967 wehn ALL our neighbours attacked, and we had no choice but to attack back. Luckily we had a strong army and we conquered lands. We gave back Sinai to Egyot and Gaza Strip last year...
August 4, 200619 yr what makes u think u r the one accepting the real truth and not the ppl that disagree with u? thats just another point of view that 98 % of the worlds countries leaders wholeheardtly disgree with ! they all cant be wrong... these murders should stop now!
August 4, 200619 yr just because a majority believes in something deosnt make it right. U just seriously under estimated yourself. You basicly said "98% percent of the world thinks israel is wrong, so that's what I believe too! I wanna be like the rest..." plus, most of the world goes by christian belief- does that make other religions wrong? "these murders should stop now"- you're right. But why are u reffering that only to the israeli side when there are murders in both sides?
August 4, 200619 yr atleast 28% of hte land was owned by jews. possibly a higher amount. Is that looks like 28% before 1948,I think it less than 5% Here you will see the Jews owned this land on 1948 and by war get the rest Just like a cancer
August 4, 200619 yr Is that looks like 28% before 1948,I think it less than 5% Here you will see the Jews owned this land on 1948 and by war get the rest Just like a cancer They were attacked!!!!!!! By the Egyptians, syrians, etc. Several wars were declared against Israel! They're in the process of giving it back! Israel is surrounded by enemies - its a minor miracle its stiil around and that Jewish people havent been killed on mass.
August 4, 200619 yr and if we go back to the UN partition plan u think the attackes will stop?? Everybody know that USA taking over UN and Israel taking over USA,so any decision by UN of course it's for Israel UN is dead,dead since 1945 How many time USA used the VETO in favour of Israel? The UN partition just to freez the situation for Israel to get rest to continue the occupation
August 4, 200619 yr They were attacked!!!!!!! By the Egyptians, syrians, etc. Several wars were declared against Israel! They're in the process of giving it back! Israel is surrounded by enemies - its a minor miracle its stiil around and that Jewish people havent been killed on mass. They are attacked because they occupied this land
August 4, 200619 yr it was agreed in the UN we conquered more land in 1967 wehn ALL our neighbours attacked, and we had no choice but to attack back. Luckily we had a strong army and we conquered lands. We gave back Sinai to Egyot and Gaza Strip last year... Israel gave back Sinai to Egypt [ Israel realy have a kind heart;) ] You mean after Egypt defeated Israel and destroyed the Israelian army [ Egypt forced Israel to leave the land If you don't remember I will make you remember If you don't know I will make you know Friendly
August 4, 200619 yr the palestinians could have their share of land if they wanted it. but sadly they want israel gone before they want their land.
August 4, 200619 yr Author My post FROM the other thread...(only posting it here because I don't want to have to write in two different threads, I'd rather right it here.) Who says that they don't want it? Hizbollah have actually said they want it to stop...they want end to this......and so they should, I know. If you notice (this isn't anti-semitic by the way) it's Olmert who has repeatedly said "we will not stop until Hizbollah has been destroyed"......which we both know is impossible. And this is because these "terrorist" groups just merge into the people of the land.....you end up with the scenario where more civilian people sort of 'join' Hizbollah out of pure rage......that their homes, family or even both have been destroyed....and they end up being called Hizbollah fighters or 'insergants'. I'm not saying that what Hizbollah does is right, it's not.....but you get to the point where the term Hizbollah means nothing anymore.....it's just people who used to have a life but have no life anymore, have nothing else to do, no way of knowing what to do and are generally very pissed off...... It's the classic creation of a so-called "terrorist infected state".....and it's not a new thing.......Iraq and Afganistan are prime examples - And soon Lebanon will evolved into this status. Continuing this aggressive action will just magnify these problems. And I believe it's all on purpose. As sooner or later a group from another neighbouring county will get involved.......justifying more action. Like the invasion of Iran in October/November for example. Even if you don't agree with that last part, it's still a very logical progression, which I think will cause absolute hell.
August 4, 200619 yr They have and Iran have made it clear and said they want israel destroyed and thats their goal. they want a SHORT TERM ceasefire, but thats only for them to rebuild their supply lines, and get ready to do it again. so a ceasefire plays into exactly what they want in their goal to destroy israel. why would israel do that? if it hurts them and helps hezbollah? so with one side wanting to take a short term break to get ready again for the attack how can their be peace? that is why a ceasefire would do no good, it would b pausing the situation but while doing so helping hezbollah to get ready again.
August 4, 200619 yr Author That talk about "rebuilding their supply lines" is a whole load of propaganda. I wonder who said that.....hmmm. I stick by what I said before. This has to end now, or we will see a rise in world "terror", as it's called..
August 5, 200619 yr That talk about "rebuilding their supply lines" is a whole load of propaganda. I wonder who said that.....hmmm. I stick by what I said before. This has to end now, or we will see a rise in world "terror", as it's called.. IT WONT END NOW! thats what you dont get, it would only pause the problem. and hezbollah would come back stronger. you are looking at a short term response, which would only do more damage in the long run. do you not understand a ceasefirie would only delay the problem not solve it? im talking about a long term solution not a short term one that will be in hezbollah's favor. hezbollah has said it wont stop until israel is gone, so that means you cannot have a lasting peace until one side wins.....and the only way one side will win is through a military. the main goal for hezbollah is the destruction of israel, they've said it. so as long as they are here they will work towards that goal, because that is their main goal of their group. DO you people not see they wont stop until they win or are stopped? do you really think a ceasefire would help for the long term?
August 5, 200619 yr You say Hisbollah want this to stop etc... Why did they kidnap Israeli soldiers? why are they still firing rockets into Israel?
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