http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1531304,00.html

 

Only three pages - a good read

 

exerpt: "But there's a big problem with Loose Change and with most other conspiracy theories. The more you think about them, the more you realize how much they depend on circumstantial evidence, facts without analysis or documentation, quotes taken out of context and the scattered testimony of traumatized eyewitnesses. "

Haha, I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post this.

 

Debunks???? How does it.....through rhetoric?? My god.

 

It's all in the build up to 9/11/2006.........they are running scared. They can see the progress we are making and they never anticipated it....

 

I mean what sort of crap is this....??

 

and it's says...

 

"People who believe the second explanation live in a very different world from those who believe the first. In world No. 2, al-Qaeda is not responsible for the destruction of the World Trade Center. The U.S. government is. The Pentagon was not hit by a commercial jet; it was hit by a cruise missile. United Flight 93 did not crash after its occupants rushed the cockpit; it was deliberately taken down by a U.S. Air Force fighter. The entire catastrophe was planned and executed by federal officials in order to provide the U.S. with a pretext for going to war in the Middle East and, by extension, as a means of consolidating and extending the power of the Bush Administration."

 

Yeah, put us in another "world" - that answers it.....idiots. And they always mention the cruise missile, when this is the area which there is least evidence, and most of us 9/11 truthers don't try and get involved with that because there isn't a case to prove that....but there is lots of other evidence in the other aspects of that day.

 

Yes, Loose Change has it's problems in parts but that's something which they are working hard to correct in their final cut.

And of course "Time" chooses to have a go at the Pentagon crash......how predictable.....they choose the area which is most uncertain and has always been the main discussion point by the mass media......I think that the lack of info on the pentagon is something which has been done a purpose - not releasing all the 70+ tapes showing what actually DID hit the pentagon in the name of 'national security' thus making it an easy target for outlandish theories which most of us don't truely believe in.

 

It's such a lame article. Seriously.....if I didn't care about this I would say the same....it's worthless and only a carbon copy of similar so called "Debunking", haha, debunks nothing.

 

It barely scratches the surface....

 

What does it achieve other than trying to make us out to be nutty.......nothing.....it's a HIT PIECE.....that's what it's meant to do!

no one ever talks about the 5th plane that mysteriously went down that day...

Well, I don't know much about that and there isn't a lot of info on it. I know Moussaoui 'says' he was to fly the 5th plane.....

 

But we don't even need that information to show that there are serious questions that need to be addressed.

no one ever talks about the 5th plane that mysteriously went down that day...

 

have you read the Time article?

 

The so-called "debunking" is like that of a 12 year old. It's aimed at the dim-witted out there. Seriously..

"circumstantial evidence, facts without analysis or documentation, quotes taken out of context and the scattered testimony of traumatized eyewitnesses."

have you read the Time article?

 

The so-called "debunking" is like that of a 12 year old. It's aimed at the dim-witted out there. Seriously..

 

 

Funny enough, thats what i think about Prisonplanet.com

"circumstantial evidence' date=' facts without analysis or documentation, quotes taken out of context and the scattered testimony of traumatized eyewitnesses."[/quote']

 

 

 

so now the eyewitnesses aren't sane enough to know the difference between reality and imagination??

so now the eyewitnesses aren't sane enough to know the difference between reality and imagination??

Indeed, traumatised ones anyway

so now the eyewitnesses aren't sane enough to know the difference between reality and imagination??

 

if you had just seen a plane crash - would you be calm?

 

Dont know about you but i would freak out a little and when i'm not freaking out i'd probably be shitting myself. So if someone asks me a question - they wouldnt get a proper answer and probably some sort of gibberish.

It's definitely the case that people who are somehow on side with the government on this are the ones who are really are scrambling about with bogus information.

Everytime there's an mainstream neocon article written about 9/11, it just repeats the "official" version of events and only wants to make us look like "crack pots" when we are deadly serious - asking serious questions.

These questions are never answered. (well, some of them WE KNOW for sure)

But they do get answered but you dismiss every piece of evidence that contradicts your points as the governments doing.

I do not!

 

I've seen all the evidence from both sides and I think that I'm on the right side here!

 

That's the whole reason and point behind being part of the 9/11 Truth Movement....that we think we have been lied to.

if you had just seen a plane crash - would you be calm?

 

Dont know about you but i would freak out a little and when i'm not freaking out i'd probably be shitting myself. So if someone asks me a question - they wouldnt get a proper answer and probably some sort of gibberish.

 

 

things like that stay impressioned in your brain... I remember that day like it was yesterday... even today, 5 yrs later.

 

I'm not ruling out that it could happen.... some people might have sworn they saw or heard things... but when the majority of these 'eyewitnesses' stories corroberate, its a bit hard to dismiss.

I remember that day clearly like everyone else i was clued to the news screen and read every newspaper on it in the following days.

 

However gareth has just posted a video in the other thread which is new to me a video of the nose of the 2nd plane shooting straight thru the building and out the other side. Ive never seen/noticed that before.

 

Point of post - People realise new things about events as time goes by and they see things that jog their memory.

people change their minds about events and are impressionable to ideas put in their heads.

haven't seen that video.... so I won't comment on that. However..... seeing as I was here in NY living it... first hand, I can't say I ever saw the nose come out the other end.. nor have I ever heard anyone who was down there that day (family members) -who actually saw the plane hit.. (both planes) didn't see that.... nor was there ever a nose of a plane recovered....

 

hmmmm

Well it couldve been anything, i just presume its the nose -first in first out.

Yeah, I think it is a bit of the nose which you see pop out....but it's aluminium and doesn't survive the flames.

Heh... not to wade into the mess or anything... but here's another one...

 

http://www.macleans.ca/culture/books/article.jsp?content=20060904_132517_132517

Debunking 9/11 Myths has been discussed and has been shown to be terrible.

Not as terrible as the conspiracy thoeries

:rolleyes:

Watch camille the goverments gonna get you for that one.

:uhoh: :P

Not as terrible as the conspiracy thoeries

 

Oh, you really know how to prove me wrong don't you....