Time Magazine > Pile of Shit > Prison Planet.

 

Read this: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

Heres an excellant article on the theories, no doubt gareth will see its not from prisonplanet.com and will thus dismiss it as being the work of an evil government.

 

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/lcg3.html

 

Much of the case for "controlled demolition" of the WTC Twin Towers (although, curiously, not of WTC 7) rests on the fact that many witnesses reported hearing and seeing secondary explosions after the planes hit. I've never been surprised in the least by these reports. Why wouldn't there be secondary explosions, and things that sound like explosions or bombs, in a disaster of that type and magnitude in buildings of that type and magnitude? I have yet to hear from a CTist why that's surprising.

 

One thing we often don't know is exactly when and where those explosions were heard, and this video certainly makes no effort to clarify that. For instance, how many people, in both towers, heard (but didn't see) flight 175 hit the south tower and reported that as a big secondary explosion? How many people were reporting the same event, but when those reports are listed, it looks like many events? We don't know.

 

And how many of these explosions were electrical systems shorting, transformers and switchgear blowing, generators failing, steam pipes bursting, flaming debris and steel beams falling down elevator shafts, etc. Several reports call the sound of the actual collapse of tower 2 a "huge explosion."

 

Electrical explosions do happen in skyscrapers:

 

Electrical Fire Hurts 6 at Trade Center

An air-conditioning transformer five stories below the World Trade Center caught fire after an explosion last night, the authorities said. Six people were injured, none of them seriously, but the 110-story twin towers did not have to be evacuated, the authorities said. The fire was first reported at 10:02 P.M. in a 13,000-volt transformer in the Trade Center's refrigeration plant, which provides air conditioning and ventilation for the complex, the Fire Department and the Port Authority said. The electrical fire, which went to three alarms, was brought under control at 11:24 P.M., said a Fire Department official, Lieutenant Erick Weekes. NEW YORK TIMES July 24, 1992

 

Remarks on the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing by Fire Chief Donald J. Burns

"Usually, a report of an explosion in a high-rise indicates an electrical problem such as a large short or a transformer explosion. "

 

Video of a transformer explosion.

 

 

What the various explosions reported would have to do with CD, I don't know. When you demolish a building with explosives, you set the charges to go off in a precise order at demolition time, not in a random fashion for nearly an hour. Some CTists have suggested that bombs were placed at different locations within the building. I have yet to hear a plausible explanation for why that would be. Large bombs would really mess up your carefully-prepared controlled demolition. What's more, no one I know of has come up with any plausible explanation of how this massive amount of CD work could have been accomplished.

 

So, before we get back to the video, I'd like to propose a little thought experiment to the conspiracy believers. I've asked this before but no one has ever answered. Please describe, in as much detail as possible, what you would EXPECT to hear and see after a fully-loaded airliner hit a skyscraper at top speed, causing enormous damage, and the building caught fire to the point of collapse?

 

And when a billion-pound building does start to collapse, what would you EXPECT to see and hear at the lower levels?

 

Because in order to be surprised by what did happen, you must have some expectation of what SHOULD have happened. So I'd like you to stop and think about that. More than that, I'd like to HEAR what you have to say on the matter.

 

And if you can't come up with an answer, then please talk to the experts: structural engineers, fire safety engineers, and failure analysts. Does it bother you that none of them agree with you?

 

Once I was driving on the highway and an 18-wheeler blew a tire as it pulled alongside me on the left. The tire was just a few feet from my window. I described it as "like a cannon going off in my ear." But no cannon went off in my ear. I was using a common simile to describe a dramatic event. Please keep that in mind throughout this section.

 

Please keep in mind that I'm not disputing what witnesses say they saw and heard. I'm just suggesting that there are many plausible explanations for those phenomena that don't involve implausible bombs.

looschange was one of the first sites I think Gareth posted... no? it makes you think...

looschange was one of the first sites I think Gareth posted... no? it makes you think...

 

Dunno but the point of the article to me was that there could be problems with eye witness accounts (from distressed people) and a general lack of knowledge of what happens when Jumbo Jets full of fuel crash into buildings which rather undermines several key claims of the truth movers.

Oh' date=' you really know how to prove me wrong don't you....[/quote']

 

no, but the experts do! you donts show evidence but theories thus not proving anything.

looschange was one of the first sites I think Gareth posted... no? it makes you think...

 

It does

 

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

 

It makes me think about how dumb some people are.

Time Magazine > Pile of Shit > Prison Planet.

 

Read this: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

 

 

Damn good post.

It does

 

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

 

It makes me think about how dumb some people are.

 

 

so now traumatized people are dumb..... nice.

so now traumatized people are dumb..... nice.

 

ahh nice try. I never said that. people who believe in the craziest shit that isnt back by any evidence are.

 

C'mon camille you could put different words in my mouth, make it more interesting.:laugh3:

we are debating the fact that people under stress may have seen things others have not.. or vice versa-- ergo the reasoning behind such sites that claim to have eyewitness accounts.....

 

 

if you are saying such sites are shit, and that only dumb people believe them... what does that say about the people who actually believe they did see that stuff...... thats my point.

we are debating the fact that people under stress may have seen things others have not.. or vice versa-- ergo the reasoning behind such sites that claim to have eyewitness accounts.....

 

 

if you are saying such sites are shit, and that only dumb people believe them... what does that say about the people who actually believe they did see that stuff...... thats my point.

 

If people now days after what happened still believe it and argue for it...its saying they are dumb.

so now traumatized people are dumb..... nice.

 

No, but they have gone through an horrendous experiance and are confused and scared and going through all sorts of emotions. They are not thinking straight- should their statements so soon after the event be taken seriously?

No' date=' but they have gone through an horrendous experiance and are confused and scared and going through all sorts of emotions. They are not thinking straight- should their statements so soon after the event be taken seriously?[/quote']

 

 

this I can completely undrstand.. because you're right, it happens...... but to flat out say anyone who believes this is dumb...... is dumb.

*looks around*

 

*shouting* THERE IS A FIRE IN THE THEATRE EVERYBODY GET OUT */shouting*

 

What ;)

:lol: ^ I like u!

:embarassed:

OI! You act like its a bad thing.. :embarassed: I meant I like your comments..... :cry:

this I can completely undrstand.. because you're right' date=' it happens...... but to flat out say anyone who believes this is dumb...... is dumb.[/quote']

 

Guess were the same camille

OI! You act like its a bad thing.. :embarassed: I meant I like your comments..... :cry:

 

Oh its a bad thing:\

Guess were the same camille

 

 

huh??? learn proper grammar, please....

huh??? learn proper grammar' date=' please....[/quote']

 

Yo homes, shut up. You know exactly what I meant.:thinking:

P.S. that was not improper grammer.

grammar... yes... it was.

Ahhh someone is grouchy today...guess that makes me a racist:laugh3:

Honestly you two are like children!