Geez. I can't wait for the day when the dolphins rise up to take over the world and make everyone eat only fruits and vegetables and jack off in public at least once a week. I swear, this planet would be so much better off without homo sapiens. At least I won't be alive when we blow this poor fucker to smithereens. Or will I?

 

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OK, back to serenity. And away from this thread.

Ok that post scared me.

All who think homosexualls are wrong, unnatural or whatever...

TELL ME,

Why shouldn't we have rights, too?

Why shouldn't we have the same rights than all other ppl in the world?

Why shouldn't we be able to marry who we want?

Why shouldn't we have children?

Why shouldn't we have a family?

Why shouldn't we get accept from others?

 

Why should it be forbidden to love who we love?

Why should it be forbidden to marry who we love?

Why should it be forbidden to show the love to a person?

 

JUST BECAUSE OF THE GENDER???

 

Tell me!! Is that fair? Is that really fair? We are what we are. Nobody asked me if I wanna be lesbian or not. It just was so and I had to accept it. I'm not a different person now. I just prefer women to men. But why should that be wrong?

That means not that I'm gonna to smooch each woman or that I smooch with my girlfriend in front of all ppl... (and I don't like it when that do heterocouples, too)

 

Tell me, what's your profit when gays aren't accept from other ppl? Or when they have not the same rights... That can you be wayne or not..?!!

Geez. I can't wait for the day when the dolphins rise up to take over the world and make everyone eat only fruits and vegetables and jack off in public at least once a week. I swear, this planet would be so much better off without homo sapiens. At least I won't be alive when we blow this poor fucker to smithereens. Or will I?

 

...

 

OK, back to serenity. And away from this thread.

 

Yeah, away from this thread....good call.

All who think homosexualls are wrong, unnatural or whatever...

TELL ME,

Why shouldn't we have rights, too?

Why shouldn't we have the same rights than all other ppl in the world?

Why shouldn't we be able to marry who we want?

Why shouldn't we have children?

Why shouldn't we have a family?

Why shouldn't we get accept from others?

 

Why should it be forbidden to love who we love?

Why should it be forbidden to marry who we love?

Why should it be forbidden to show the love to a person?

 

JUST BECAUSE OF THE GENDER???

 

Tell me!! Is that fair? Is that really fair? We are what we are. Nobody asked me if I wanna be lesbian or not. It just was so and I had to accept it. I'm not a different person now. I just prefer women to men. But why should that be wrong?

That means not that I'm gonna to smooch each woman or that I smooch with my girlfriend in front of all ppl... (and I don't like it when that do heterocouples, too)

 

Tell me, what's your profit when gays aren't accept from other ppl? Or when they have not the same rights... That can you be wayne or not..?!!

 

 

Its wrong but they deserve the same rights as other people.

 

As for children, nature did not intend gays to have them, otherwise man and man or women and women would make them, not man and women. Nature has it that man and women are for each other and make children.

it is not saying that a church cant preach against gay people, it is jsut that if they do, there is the possibility that they will be sued, rightly so, since it is slander. Also, why should the state of california help with construction or repair of a church in the first place?

Baing homosexual is not a choice as has been proven by countless scientific studies. Also, it is jsut christianity that preaches against it. The Greeks view homosexuality as somthing good.

Its not just about the Bible, its the fact the majority does not want it and thinks it is sick, but that does not make it right.

 

 

But it was a very good comparison, in that both were treated as less then human and didnt have equal rights. Both may not have been treated in the same way though. Im not saying Gays have it worse then African Americans used to but they were seen the same way in alot of ways. Bottom line it is adn was wrong

 

 

are you kidding me!!!!

 

 

 

how is 'bad mouthing' a homosexual AS DEHUMANINZING as treating African Americans as less than human? YOU have no clue... and clearly this is more than discriminatory!!

are you kidding me!!!!

 

 

 

how is 'bad mouthing' a homosexual AS DEHUMANINZING as treating African Americans as less than human? YOU have no clue... and clearly this is more than discriminatory!!

 

Im talking about how they are treated in general, not just this. And i didnt say they were treated as bad, but similar. Im not comparing the severity because we all know non white people had it far worse but had it similar in being treated as less then human

 

So you are taking this as me saying they were treated the same, they were treated the same as in they both are 2nd class citizens.

not true.

 

 

because at least a homosexual has rights as a citizen, period. Back in the day before the civil rights movement.. a person 'of color' (as you put it) didn't even have those rights. SO, there's the inequality of your comparison....... is it discrimination.. sure. Homosexuals are discrimintated against as were Blacks... (and in many cases.. still are)... but the overall battle is emensly different.

 

 

NOW, to get back to topic...

 

the topic opf this thread was not whether or not gays should be allowed to be married or not.... thats in a few other threads if I am not mistaken... THIS thread was about the ACLU attempting to make it a legal offensive to slander homosexuals.. which I think is a waste of taxpayers money... they should spend their time and efforts into another cause... like gay marriages!!

Geez its true.

 

True as in both are or were second class citizens, just non whites had it far worse. But both hav in common not being treated like humans

OKAY! Off of the black and white discussion.

 

All who think homosexualls are wrong, unnatural or whatever...

TELL ME,

Why shouldn't we have rights, too?

Why shouldn't we have the same rights than all other ppl in the world?

Why shouldn't we be able to marry who we want?

Why shouldn't we have children?

Why shouldn't we have a family?

Why shouldn't we get accept from others?

 

Why should it be forbidden to love who we love?

Why should it be forbidden to marry who we love?

Why should it be forbidden to show the love to a person?

 

JUST BECAUSE OF THE GENDER???

 

Tell me!! Is that fair? Is that really fair? We are what we are. Nobody asked me if I wanna be lesbian or not. It just was so and I had to accept it. I'm not a different person now. I just prefer women to men. But why should that be wrong?

That means not that I'm gonna to smooch each woman or that I smooch with my girlfriend in front of all ppl... (and I don't like it when that do heterocouples, too)

 

Tell me, what's your profit when gays aren't accept from other ppl? Or when they have not the same rights... That can you be wayne or not..?!!

 

Ask the politicians and other leaders. I can't answer that for you. Though, you have a piont w/ the PDA. It also gets on my nerves. Holding hands is one thing. Slobbering over each other in public is truly another.

 

But that's just it. When you chose to "accept who u r" you had a choice to either change or not. See, therein lies the solution. You had a choice. You chose gay. Point made.

 

And good grief woman! I ne'er said yoiu shouldn't have any rights! NO ONE HAS! Gayness makes me sick and nuthin's gonna change that. It's just wrong that gays should have SPECIAL rights non-beholding to other people. If a crappy law was passed that only black ppl could be hired for jobs? Wouldn't that suck for white ppl? Or if anyone is of another ethnic background put yourself in the place of the person who couldn't get a job and support his/her family or him/herself. I'm just using this as an example so don't twist it around for racist slander! But do you see the unfairness of this? I refuse to believ you don't.

 

LIKE I SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, GIVING PPL SPECIAL RIGHTS AND NOT OTHERS IS UNFAIR! No one should get special rights or priveleges unless those same priveleges are given to all.

 

address this in the discussions to follo: is it wrong to give Americans special rights that other Americans can't have?

 

note: I specifically said Americans to avoid refering to illegal aliens.

Please tell me someone sees this.

Geez. I can't wait for the day when the dolphins rise up to take over the world and make everyone eat only fruits and vegetables and jack off in public at least once a week. I swear, this planet would be so much better off without homo sapiens. At least I won't be alive when we blow this poor fucker to smithereens. Or will I?

 

...

 

OK, back to serenity. And away from this thread.

 

wooooow..that was so random. makes me laugh though, kind of changes the mood lolsss

it was never a black white issue... it was about someone comparing to the civil rights movement to that of the gay rights movement.... 2 totally different aspects and conditions... but wrong none the less...

 

 

choose your words wisely FixU2......you're being watched

it was never a black white issue... it was about someone comparing to the civil rights movement to that of the gay rights movement.... 2 totally different aspects and conditions... but wrong none the less...

 

 

choose your words wisely FixU2......you're being watched

 

Totally the same but treated differently. The same as in Gays and non whites were treated as 2nd class less then human people......

it was never a black white issue... it was about someone comparing to the civil rights movement to that of the gay rights movement.... 2 totally different aspects and conditions... but wrong none the less...

 

 

choose your words wisely FixU2......you're being watched

 

Uuuummmm.....no. But why watch my words? I'm gonna say what I feel no matter what people think. Frankly, I'm not afraid of my opinion. I kno (for a fact) that not everyone shares my beleifs. I for one AM NOT gonna pull a whoever tries to do this and try not to offend anyone. If you try not to offend anyone then you're gonna end up offending SOMEONE. So why try?

 

COME ON! PLEASE SOMEONE ADDRESS MY POINT! IS IT FAIR TO GIVE SOME PEOPLE SPECIAL RIGHTS AND NOT OTHERS?

Uuuummmm.....no. But why watch my words? I'm gonna say what I feel no matter what people think. Frankly, I'm not afraid of my opinion. I kno (for a fact) that not everyone shares my beleifs. I for one AM NOT gonna pull a whoever tries to do this and try not to offend anyone. If you try not to offend anyone then you're gonna end up offending SOMEONE. So why try?

 

COME ON! PLEASE SOMEONE ADDRESS MY POINT! IS IT FAIR TO GIVE SOME PEOPLE SPECIAL RIGHTS AND NOT OTHERS?

 

Be careful Camille likes to use her mod power to silence political opposition. and if that does not work, she'll just call you a racist and wont be able to back her shit up:laugh3:

 

But as a human, try to be a little more polite in your view on this, ok?

Totally the same but treated differently. The same as in Gays and non whites were treated as 2nd class less then human people......

 

no its not..

 

 

 

and shut your trap about me.. You don't the first thing about me.... the reason I said watch what you say to FIX U2 was because they were coming off as discriminatory... thats all!

 

 

everyone is entitled to voice their opinion.... I haven't said anything against the thread's topic... in fact, I think I am the only one who has addressed the issue of this stupid law. I think its ridiculous to outlaw slanderous remarks... where's the freedom of speech in that?

 

 

do I condem gays?? no... they're people just like everyone else.. and for anyone to think that the civil rights movement of the 60s is in anyway similar to the gays right movement.. you're sadly mistaken. Both are ethically wrong.. (as far as in-equality goes) but in no way are they the same....

no its not..

 

 

 

and shut your trap about me.. You don't the first thing about me.... the reason I said watch what you say to FIX U2 was because they were coming off as discriminatory... thats all!

 

 

everyone is entitled to voice their opinion.... I haven't said anything against the thread's topic... in fact, I think I am the only one who has addressed the issue of this stupid law. I think its ridiculous to outlaw slanderous remarks... where's the freedom of speech in that?

 

 

do I condem gays?? no... they're people just like everyone else.. and for anyone to think that the civil rights movement of the 60s is in anyway similar to the gays right movement.. you're sadly mistaken. Both are ethically wrong.. (as far as in-equality goes) but in no way are they the same....

 

Its the same, simple as that.

chuddup...

We've gone over this Cam, like usual if you cant add anything to the debate shut the fuck up:dozey:

you need to check yo'self. :)

you need to check yo'self. :)

 

 

I did...now its your turn:dozey:

I dont think that this special law to outlaw slander is too cool. i understand that it is in the Christian religion to be anti homosexual. In my opinion, as long as they arent hurting anyone (physically) or threatening to, they can say whatever they want. I dont think special laws to accomodate a certain group of people is fair. But i do believe that Gays arent asking for any special laws, they are simply asking for their rights garunteed to them by the constitution of the United States.

 

FIX U2, you seemed to think that they were asking for more...they really arent, they want to be treated like normal citizens. Sure you may think its wrong, but why should that mean that they cant be married? why do you even care?? (not you personally, just anti gay people in general) Its not like they are coming up to you and hitting on you and trying to make you be gay too. What do you do when you need to go vote on a local issue that doesnt really affect you...you dont care and dont vote for it or vote for something that isnt going to screw someone else over. Why is that different here? why do some people in the US think they have the right, just because their religion speaks against it, to talk down on another group of people, and dictate whether or not they can have their rights??

 

it baffles me.:confused:

*raises glass* ^

 

there's better things the ACLU could be fighting for.... namecalling isn't one of them....