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I did a little experiment today, cos I was bored

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I decided because I was bored to test out the latest governement crack-down on knife crime (also because I broke the kitchen knife yesterday), to see how easy it was to actually buy knifes which in the wrong hands could do some damage.

 

Armed with my ID, I managed to purchase 4 knives of reasonable length (a length where it could kill) without being asked for ID, and a further 3 knives with being asked for ID.

 

Overall cost for all 7 knives was £12.35, and I was doing anything illegal because all 7 knives are currently sitting in my kitchen, but I was shocked.

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Are there fines for selling those knives?

I doubt the criminals that use the knives ever actually buy them. Now go out and see how many you can steal and report back.

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Are there fines for selling those knives?

 

The age limit is 18, so I guess fines if your caught selling knives to under-age people.

but then there was nothing illegal for those people to sell you those knives?

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I doubt the criminals that use the knives ever actually buy them. Now go out and see how many you can steal and report back.

 

That's too easy :P

 

Only the knives in Tesco & Asda had security tags when the price was over £10, so if you know what your doing, it would be rather easy to steal some of the quid knives.

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but then there was nothing illegal for those people to sell you those knives?

 

If it was illegal to sell knives, chefs would be fucked :laugh3:

Aren't they already?

I sold knifes at my last job.... whilst hanging on the racks, they had a pathetic little adjustable cable ties which had 'security tag' written on them. People would ask me if it was okay to get a knife....when I got them, they would laugh at how easily they could have just nabbed them themselves...

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I sold knifes at my last job.... whilst hanging on the racks, they had a pathetic little adjustable cable ties which had 'security tag' written on them. People would ask me if it was okay to get a knife....when I got them, they would laugh at how easily they could have just nabbed them themselves...

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Kara all your knife peddling is what's wrong with your country! :angry: You should be ashamed. :laugh3:
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Knives are to Britain what Guns are too Texas :P

I sold knifes to respectable married couples and the like! Well....they could be the worst :uhoh: who knows...

 

The funniest thing that happened in my shop, was when a tramp stole a load of saucepans and my manager ran after him all through town, tackling him in a park and reclaiming the goods.... :lol:

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To sell on the black panket :rolleyes:

respectable couples like these?

chavs.JPG

 

Poor old bugger. Why'd he take sauce pans?

 

Because he was a panhandler??:rolleyes:

To sell on the black panket :rolleyes:

 

Potten!!:rolleyes:

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You don't need a pan to heat up beans :P

Luckily not too many chavs came into the shop..... if they did, they disgustingly sat on our leather sofas with no shirts on during the summer, YEUCH.

Eight-year-old school boy suspended for just two days after 'pulling knife' on classmate

 

By Chris Johnson

Last updated at 3:31 PM on 20th June 2008

 

 

 

article-1028019-00F9253600000578-690_233x441.jpg A school boy brandishes a knife (file picture)

 

An eight-year-old schoolboy who pulled a knife on a fellow pupil in class before saying he ‘wanted to stab the teacher’ was suspended for just two days.

The year three pupil, who cannot be named, was suspended from Cypress Junior School after pulling the knife from his pocket during a spat with a girl in his class.

Furious parents, who say the lad’s punishment was not adequate, have now started a petition asking for the school’s decision to be reassessed.

But interim headteacher of the school in Norwood, south London, John Masson today attempted to play down the incident, saying small children ‘don’t have adult motives’.

Concerned parents are now fearing for their children’s safety at the 360-pupil primary school.

Parent Paul Serunkuma, 38, whose son was in the classroom when the incident happened, said: ‘A young girl had an argument with the boy and pushed his books over the desk.

‘He retaliated with a stabbing gesture towards the girl.

‘He had the knife under a table and then she told the teacher.’

He added: ‘When the class was dismissed some of the children were very scared and went out screaming.

‘My son was quite close to this boy and he confided in him. He told my son he wanted to stab the teacher.

‘It's shocking an eight-year-old could bring in a knife.

‘My main concern is has this child been properly assessed? And can he do it again? I don't feel my child is safe.’

Another parent, who did not want to be named, said: ‘To think that an eight-year-old boy can walk into a classroom with a knife in his pocket is terrifying enough.

‘If he really brought it in to stab the teacher, which is what he told his friends, then it must be dealt with far more severely than it has.

‘Two days is not enough. He needs to have a proper sit down chat with people who know the real dangers of knives.’

Interim headteacher Mr Masson said he did not believe the teacher or pupil were actually threatened with the knife on the day in question, June 11.

He said: ‘According to the account I had from the teacher present in the classroom, the boy started to move the knife from his pocket, then she saw it straight away and took it away from him.

‘He did not try to use it or gesture to anybody with it.

‘I think you know when something is seriously wrong. In this case it was a mistake on the part of the child to bring a knife into school. That is serious.

‘It was dealt with by a fixed-term exclusion for two days and I think that was appropriate.

‘This is quite different to a 14 to 16-year-old walking into school with a weapon. Small children don't have adult motives.’

A letter explaining what had happened was sent to all parents the day after the incident.

But parent Steve Kelly, 32, thinks the school has dealt with the matter badly and has started a petition asking for its decision to be reassessed.

He said: ‘It was a massive shock. We send our children into school and think they're safe.

‘If anything had happened an apology would not have sufficed. It's scary."

Eddie Usade, 40, who also has a son in the same year, said: ‘The children were shocked and agitated about it.

‘Does the child understand the seriousness of his actions?’

Mr Masson has called on local police to give a talk about the dangers of knives this week.

He added: ‘We need to work together on this sort of problem and parents need to monitor their children's access to knives at home.

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But I must say a respectable experiment this is.

If I were a knife seller, and David walked in, with his sweater vest, pipe, beard and glasses and asked to purchase 3 knives I would sell them to him.. probably without asking for ID.

But if say a pair of society's bi-product sporting fake Burberry caps and hand bags, trainers and a matching track pants and jacket, and asked to purchase 3 knives, I would be reluctant to hand them over.. at least without ID. If they had ID, I would be left with no choice but to let them purchase them.

 

It's all in the image I guess.. but that way of thinking would probably get you introuble.

So David, what are your plans for these knives? ;)

Eight-year-old school boy suspended for just two days after 'pulling knife' on classmate

 

 

By Chris Johnson

Last updated at 3:31 PM on 20th June 2008

 

 

article-1028019-00F9253600000578-690_233x441.jpg A school boy brandishes a knife (file picture)

 

An eight-year-old schoolboy who pulled a knife on a fellow pupil in class before saying he ‘wanted to stab the teacher’ was suspended for just two days.

The year three pupil, who cannot be named, was suspended from Cypress Junior School after pulling the knife from his pocket during a spat with a girl in his class.

Furious parents, who say the lad’s punishment was not adequate, have now started a petition asking for the school’s decision to be reassessed.

But interim headteacher of the school in Norwood, south London, John Masson today attempted to play down the incident, saying small children ‘don’t have adult motives’.

Concerned parents are now fearing for their children’s safety at the 360-pupil primary school.

Parent Paul Serunkuma, 38, whose son was in the classroom when the incident happened, said: ‘A young girl had an argument with the boy and pushed his books over the desk.

‘He retaliated with a stabbing gesture towards the girl.

‘He had the knife under a table and then she told the teacher.’

He added: ‘When the class was dismissed some of the children were very scared and went out screaming.

‘My son was quite close to this boy and he confided in him. He told my son he wanted to stab the teacher.

‘It's shocking an eight-year-old could bring in a knife.

‘My main concern is has this child been properly assessed? And can he do it again? I don't feel my child is safe.’

Another parent, who did not want to be named, said: ‘To think that an eight-year-old boy can walk into a classroom with a knife in his pocket is terrifying enough.

‘If he really brought it in to stab the teacher, which is what he told his friends, then it must be dealt with far more severely than it has.

‘Two days is not enough. He needs to have a proper sit down chat with people who know the real dangers of knives.’

Interim headteacher Mr Masson said he did not believe the teacher or pupil were actually threatened with the knife on the day in question, June 11.

He said: ‘According to the account I had from the teacher present in the classroom, the boy started to move the knife from his pocket, then she saw it straight away and took it away from him.

‘He did not try to use it or gesture to anybody with it.

‘I think you know when something is seriously wrong. In this case it was a mistake on the part of the child to bring a knife into school. That is serious.

‘It was dealt with by a fixed-term exclusion for two days and I think that was appropriate.

‘This is quite different to a 14 to 16-year-old walking into school with a weapon. Small children don't have adult motives.’

A letter explaining what had happened was sent to all parents the day after the incident.

But parent Steve Kelly, 32, thinks the school has dealt with the matter badly and has started a petition asking for its decision to be reassessed.

He said: ‘It was a massive shock. We send our children into school and think they're safe.

‘If anything had happened an apology would not have sufficed. It's scary."

Eddie Usade, 40, who also has a son in the same year, said: ‘The children were shocked and agitated about it.

‘Does the child understand the seriousness of his actions?’

Mr Masson has called on local police to give a talk about the dangers of knives this week.

He added: ‘We need to work together on this sort of problem and parents need to monitor their children's access to knives at home.

 

Scary . . . :worried:

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