The Roadie 42 blog talked pretty extensively about the new sessions the band are up to. The Chris-less sessions I should say.

 

I figured, despite the fact there are other threads (I haven't seen any but I'm sure they're there), we could use this as a place to generally discuss what the band is up to.

 

Are these sessions going to form the supposed 2009 album?

 

Are they going to be nearly as experimental when we get the final product?

 

Do we want more experimenting? Do we want more of Viva la Vida or back to the basics (although I DOUBT the latter completely...also dont want it myself)?

 

What direction would you like them to head?

 

Could they experiment in the U2 sense or Radiohead?

 

 

 

I am just so excited by all of this and I figured this could be a good place to talk about the potential for a new album.

There was another thread like this, but I'm too lazy at the moment to find it or rewrite it here...

There was another thread like this, but I'm too lazy at the moment to find it or rewrite it here...

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

I'm lazy too :P

figured as much.

 

my bad

Lol footy comes in, makes a perfectly good thread, and we just throw a wet blanket of lethargia (is thast the word) over it. Don't worry, I'll probably post tonight. I put a lot of thought into these things. :smug:

I want to hear Coldplay's Kid A. That's be epic. Then they could make their own Amnesiac, and it'd be the best album ever!

Well if some people are going to post I think I might share my thoughts/hopes.

 

Personally I don't think Eno can do anything TOO crazy with a rock band. Take them out of their element...sure - without a doubt. He's definitely doing that.

I just doubt his ability to make a Kid A.

 

Personally I wouldn't want that. I know lots of bands do what Coldplay does. That's mainly because Coldplay jumped in on a genre and in my opinion perfected it. There are so many piano based bands that are doing exactly what Coldplay do. I'm not talking Keane here - I give them credit. They are not ripping anyone off.

 

I really just want Coldplay to remain Coldplay, because they are the best in the world at what they do. U2 and Radiohead are very different styles within similar genres. I'd love Coldplay to do their Achtung Baby or Kid A, but I want it to be Coldplays. I don't just want random experimentation for no purpose.

 

I think Coldplay has evolved beautifully. When you compare them to U2 (not Radiohead who had great albums right after Pablo Honey - sorry Pablo Honey fans), they have had much greater success early on. Success does not dictate talent of course or quality, but when you think about Boy and October...well they are hardly stellar albums. There's like one or two tracks on each album tops that are worth listening to.

 

Coldplay has legendary tracks from their first two albums. Yellow, The Scientist and Clocks are rock/pop classics. I don't mean they don't have other songs, I mean they have classics, not just ok songs.

 

If Coldplay keeps evolving I think they'll be just fine. Maybe they'll take a greater leap with this record, and I'd love that as long as they don't forget the genre they come from. I really don't think they will. They want to make music the world can love.

To me VLV was a compilation of new ideas and flavors that the band had never tried before. None of the songs on the album were quite like any song they'd done before. I think we're gonna see a similar expansion on that sort of creativity. What this album did is free them up, by giving an eclectic sampler platter of tastes, so now they're free to charge in whatever direction they please.

What VLV failed to do in some respects was present a wholesome album. It was very disconnected at times, with few overlapping themes. I dig the experimentation, but it felt more like a compilation in many respects. U2's The Joshua Tree into Achtung Baby phase presented a radically experimental transition, but both albums held a common theme and ground. The music in VLV was far reaching but interchangeable, whereas X&Y was more of a complete "album" IMO

 

That's one thing I'd definitely like to see, matched up with more unforeseen flavors, instrumentation's etc.

 

Another thing that kept VLV from having quite the impact some had hoped for, was the shortness of the songs. One of the problems with the album was that it was so hard to settle down in in the sound of it. Even their 3-part epic was under 4 minutes. None of the songs were quite as effective as some on AROBTTH because it felt like they were almost embarrassed to stay around for too long. you could really take in the song "AROBTTH" because you could really indulge in it, whereas cemeteries of london is a bit frantic, and ends disconcertingly soon.

 

I'm definitely hoping for a more patient album, with an all encompassing theme. I've also given up expecting a "kid A" or an "unforgettable fire". Cause I know the band is too ADD to pursue one goal of that sort. Instead we'll get bits and pieces of a thousand different albums blended together, and hopefully it'll work.

 

Oh, and I really hope they expand on "prospekt". He was so hyped up on the site, that there's gotta be more to him than one line in prospekt's march. I would give my left hand for them to make a concept album based around him...

BTW, I absolutely love what Eno is doing in kicking Chris out of the studio. Flipping the switch on the conveyor belt is probably just what the band needs. Theoretically, it should really up the potentially of the three of them, particularly Jonny, who was limited to some very minimal accompaniments on parts of the last album, like in lost! and VLV.

 

Don't get me wrong, I adore his mellow picked reverb on Parachutes, but when you're selling out whole stadium's like a 21st century U2, you need to amp up the licks. And now, Jonny has carte blanche to rock-out instead of patiently waiting for gaps in Chris's singing.

I just gotta ask because I don't understand... Why are the guys recording without Chris? Why is Chris promoting solo? I just don't get it, could someone explain it to me? Thank you!

If the new album is not epic, they will get into the hole.

@ FER

 

Eno wanted to start the sessions without Chris so that the rest of the guys would be able so express themseilves more.(i think )but ya Eno wrote the guys a letter sayin VLV was a ok album but that they coulod do better but Chris is only not gonna be there for the first 2 weeks.

 

Chris just felt like doing the whole radio station thing again and in my opinion get people hyped up about them again(even tho most already are) but hes also working with another artist while the rest of the guys is working with Eno....

 

But just listen to the interviews and look on Coldplay.com if i explained wrong....

Ok i just really want them to do something out of thos world...i really hope that their next album doesnt sound too much like VLV cuase then its like their gonna start another trilogy!

 

VLV was a a step forward instrumenatally but a step backwards lyrically...IMO

 

I want Chris to start writing again like he used to!

Ok i just really want them to do something out of thos world...i really hope that their next album doesnt sound too much like VLV cuase then its like their gonna start another trilogy!

 

VLV was a a step forward instrumenatally but a step backwards lyrically...IMO

 

I want Chris to start writing again like he used to!

 

what exactly do u mean like he used to...i think this album is a step forward lyrically as well..imo

what exactly do u mean like he used to...i think this album is a step forward lyrically as well..imo

 

Like With more emotion in the lyrics u used to be able to feel it now u dont......and thats why i said IMO..cause thats what i think..but its still a great album.

Like With more emotion in the lyrics u used to be able to feel it now u dont......and thats why i said IMO..cause thats what i think..but its still a great album.

 

haha i'm not attacking u...i was just saying..but imo i feel like the lyrics are great and u can still feel it..

haha i'm not attacking u...i was just saying..but imo i feel like the lyrics are great and u can still feel it..

 

I never said u were attacking me and kool but like i said to me u cant feel it like before

Oh, and I really hope they expand on "prospekt". He was so hyped up on the site, that there's gotta be more to him than one line in prospekt's march. I would give my left hand for them to make a concept album based around him...

 

If they do this i will be estatic. I always loved this idea and i hope they work it subtly into the new album

Personally I don't think Eno can do anything TOO crazy with a rock band. Take them out of their element...sure - without a doubt. He's definitely doing that.

I just doubt his ability to make a Kid A.

 

Personally I wouldn't want that. I know lots of bands do what Coldplay does. That's mainly because Coldplay jumped in on a genre and in my opinion perfected it. There are so many piano based bands that are doing exactly what Coldplay do. I'm not talking Keane here - I give them credit. They are not ripping anyone off.

 

I really just want Coldplay to remain Coldplay, because they are the best in the world at what they do. U2 and Radiohead are very different styles within similar genres. I'd love Coldplay to do their Achtung Baby or Kid A, but I want it to be Coldplays. I don't just want random experimentation for no purpose.

+1 Agreed.

 

 

I don't know if anyone feel like it but to me Viva is kinda a 'concept' album. When you listen to it, it feels like reading a story and not just a compilation of separate songs. Plus all the visual around it. To me it's their 'Sergent Pepper' album.

With Eno, they will continue the experimentation but I think it will serve their 'old selves' and LP5 will not be a Viva n°2. To me, Viva will become a little 'buble' in their future discography, like a recreation.

 

As for banned Chris, I really think it's an awesome idea. It gives the other 3 such freedom and by judging by their grinning faces and R#42 description, it's working more than well!! I'm glad they take back 'the glory' ^^

 

But I'd like to see an association Eno/Ken Nelson to produce LP5...would be awesome...:cool:

I like that Chris lyrics are right now. Theres always room for improvement. What I like is COL, its a story and I think that is soo amazing. But I understand that lots of people want Chris innermost feelings in the lyrics, but he has done a lot of that. But he is always trying to improve and then soon, he will perfectly blend the two together and the results will be amazing.

 

With the band members. Personally I want more Melodies from Jonny. Like Radiohead, Greenwood has great melodies, I wish Jonny would go that extra mile in becoming a even more better gutatrist.

Pitchfork: Eno Not Done Monkeying With Coldplay's Formula

 

 

Pitchfork media reports today that Coldplay have kicked Chris Martin Out... of the studio. It's OK. Breathe. They also write about Roadie #42's journal entry from yesterday, and Chris Martin's collaboration with a mystery artist. Here is their article:

 

Admit it: Viva la Vida, Coldplay's first trip into the Eno-verse, has held up pretty well. These guys are some of the last honest-to-God stars on the face of the Earth, and they would've been just fine if they'd just kept biting "Clocks" over and over. They didn't have to head into the studio with a legendary genius producer who pushed them to tinker with their epicness in all sorts of unexpected ways, but they did it, and it worked out.

 

When that chorus kicks in on "Lost!", forget about it. Game over. (Also, because of Viva La Vida, this happened.)

 

Last month, we reported that Coldplay were striking while the adult-contempo arena-alt was hot and hitting the studio with Brian Eno once again. And thanks to a post on Coldplay's website, we now have some insight into what, exactly, these guys all do in the booth. The post is credited to the mysterious "Roadie #42", and according to this guy, Eno's not done monkeying with Coldplay's formula.

 

Apparently, the band usually builds on frontman Chris Martin's demo recordings. But Eno's trying something else out: Banning Martin from the studio, keeping just his vocal track in most cases, and letting the other three dudes build the rest of the songs themselves. The other dudes, understandably, are amped.

 

Reports Roadie #42: "Often, they come in first thing in the morning and listen to Chris's idea once, before going out into the live room and working up something based purely on how the song 'felt' to them on first listen, paying little heed to what chords he chose or how the melody sat." Chris Martin better watch out because pretty soon these guys might start demanding their own close-ups in the videos.

 

Martin, meanwhile, isn't using his time off to think up even more ridiculous baby-names with Gwyneth Paltrow. According to that post, "he's up the road at another studio pouring out songs in a writing project with another artist." Roadie #42 doesn't say who the other artist is, but it's probably a rapper.

 

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com

'probably a rapper', thats no surprise to us. But another collaboration is on the cards...

Didn't Chris speaked about the band 'Naturally 7' on the radios sessions?? I assumed he worked with them...

It wasn't only him, all the boys worked with "Naturally 7" at the bakery..... :nice:

 

Chris writing for another artist is a whole other thing ;)

I just want them to do an album which contains all their sacrifice, love, and some happiness, that would be nice[=