I :heart: Voltaire. I was just acting silly. :P

It's hard to sense irony via internet :lol: Glad you like it too!

^that's an odd distinction to make..

 

yeah, it may sound a bit strange, because wise people also have rational thinking, but also they have philosophical thinking, which otherwise rational people mostly dont have.

Why does being philosophical mean you are religious?

I'm pretty intelligent but I believe in God... :happy:

 

oh heck yeah i say this humbly but i'm extremely intelligent and i believe in God so there suckahs! :) :lol: but seriously i have been the valad dictorian or however ya spell it of my class for my whole school life. :smug: again, humbly. :P :rolleyes:

 

i think that people who more trust their rational logical thinking, are less tended to believe in God. But for example, people who are wise, they normally do believe. :P

 

yah i agree. i'm pretty wise too or so I have been told... :rolleyes:

oh heck yeah i say this humbly but i'm extremely intelligent and i believe in God so there suckahs! :) :lol: but seriously i have been the valad dictorian or however ya spell it of my class for my whole school life. :smug: again, humbly. :P :rolleyes:

 

Well I sure believe you based on this post, you genius!

Well I sure believe you based on this post, you genius!

 

what do u mean? I dont act like I'm smart though... lol :P

LOL!

 

I'm saying you aren't "extremely intelligent", that's all.

 

People who think they are intelligent are actually a lot more annoying than idiots.

Why does being philosophical mean you are religious?

 

Good question :D

um, when you think philosophically, you understand that there is a bigger power than a human. (God). And thats all, i dont know if you have to belong to some religion, there are many of them and they all are just in order to express the same people's belief to the same God.

I'm not that intelligent, I mean I'm probably the 4th smartest person in my class, but that's not saying much. I don't believe in god, and I've been that way since I was in sixth grade. It doesn't take smarts to not believe in god, it involves personal beliefs and your views on religion, at least that's what it took me....But intelligence could play a factor, if you don't see god as logical, as myself.

Yes but at the same time, the universe isn't logical, how can something exist from nothingness? The fact that anything exists at all makes no sense as how could it possibly be there in the first place?

It could have evovled from nothingness, I mean in a theist's terms, god was never made, he just was.

Nothingness doesn't exist :P

But even that doesn't make sense does it? How can something have always existed? There has to have been a point when it was created, something can't evolve from nothingness, if there is nothing there what is evolving? No matter how many times you multiply 0 it is always 0.

I'm not saying I believe in nothingness, but it could be possible. There are things that could have existed forever, such as energy.

well, thats why i said at first about logical & wise people. If you want to explain the world just appealing to your own reasoning, then its impossible. Either you believe or you dont.

lol is the default nothingness?

 

Nature abhors a vacuum.

 

EDIT: Here's another quandry - if energy and matter are the same (just in different forms, E=MC^2), then would the point of the Big Bang be pure energy? And if so, how is it possible to have pure energy with no matter for it to act on?

 

Which came first, the chicken (matter) or the egg (energy)?

Nothingness isn't a default, it's just a belief. There's no default for beliefs on how the universe was created, and to be honest, there's no true answer right now on how it was created. It's just a mystery we'll have to figure out.

LOL!

 

I'm saying you aren't "extremely intelligent", that's all.

 

People who think they are intelligent are actually a lot more annoying than idiots.

 

well what eva but I am so there. You dont have to believe me though. :P :rolleyes:

Why does being philosophical mean you are religious?

not sure anybody is saying that, 'God' as a creator of a universal is not an exclusively religious idea.

not sure anybody is saying that, 'God' as a creator of a universal is not an exclusively religious idea.

 

Well then that's what I was saying to jay earlier in the thread, it's not actually "God", in that sense "God" is just the name for some kind of creating force that we don't understand, which is fair enough but I think calling that "God" just confuses things.

I believe in god :thinking:

I read somewhere that as people are improving their thinking, now in 21 century their thinking is called cosmic (it includes all earlier: mythological, religious & scientific) so it seems we can think very widely now.. :shocked2:

Really? You mean we advance through time? What a revelation!

No, that wasnt the point that i wanted to say, smarty :P