I'm just quoting this again:

“…It’s still all about bringing passionate music into the mainstream, which is what we’ve always been about…”

- Chris Martin

 

:escaping:

I don't think there a pop group at all. I think people lable things in to broad a manner. Pop is something like Justian Beiber (and there's nothing wrong with that. He's just an example) Lady GaGa would be more of Club-Pop. Dubstep type of groups would just be club music. See what I'm getting at? People just put it all under pop.

 

I think Coldplay change there sound so much, they can't really be put under a genre. Paradise was acoustic, A Rush of Blood To The Head solidified Alternatives standing in the music buissness, X&Y was a little like ARoBTTH but with space rock elements, etc.

 

While Mylo Xyloto continues the trend of experimentation with new sounds, songs like Paradise are very different from Lady GaGa, and might be classified as Electro-Alternative or something. I don't really know, and I actually love that. Birtpop, which Coldplay are often labled under, is very different from the kind of pop you are probally thinking about, and if anyone actual read this whole thing, here's my point. I don't think anything can just be labled under "Pop" it's to broad a subject. If you dig deeper into genres you may find something that sounds very close to Mylo Xylotos style. Hurts Like Heaven could be classified as Shoegazing. Just because something is popular doesn't make it pop music. The BEatles are popular, Happiness Is A Warm Gun is not a pop song. Led Zeppelin are popular, Dazed and Confused is not a pop song, etc.

 

Here's an example I found. It's Waterfall by The Stone Roses. To me it's repeating riff and the way the melody is sung is very reminisent of MX. So no, Coldplay is not a pop band. But they can be just about anything they want to be.:)

 

Sorry for the long post!:lol:

 

a Pop band Coldplay because inspired by Pop bands of 80s what is U2, depeche mode, A-ha and others...

 

but from many inspirations I like this first interview in France :

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp6o1BpH46s]Report : Coldplay first interview in France - YouTube[/ame]

Did Oasis ever appear on x factor? Kasabian? U2? Beady Eye? Noel Gallagher's high flying birds?

 

Wrong question! Were they ever invited? You just don't decide to appear.

who cares if coldplay are pop or not ... if you like them listen to them! labels don't need to be put on :daisy:

Wrong question! Were they ever invited? You just don't decide to appear.

 

Probably not, and why? Because they arnt pop groups

who cares if coldplay are pop or not ... if you like them listen to them! labels don't need to be put on :daisy:

 

So true :D

 

anyway my favorite band is a alternative rock band and is on X factor for a big lie, amen :daisy:

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUMXpT0ue0A]The Storm - Honesty (LIVE on X Factor) HQ.wmv - YouTube[/ame]

 

but 1:00 of Coldplay

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mPtUATaKEg]COLDPLAY X Factor UK Final 2011 - Charlie Brown (Official) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VAGqXZLbnk]Coldplay won't show up in X-factor - "We're way too old for that" - YouTube[/ame]

I do not know if this is normal in the early light men go to the exit .

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKDrnsWd1SQ&feature=related]Coldplay's glowing gig - The X Factor 2011 Live Final (Full Version) - YouTube[/ame]

Wrong question! Were they ever invited? You just don't decide to appear.

 

Probably not, and why? Because they arnt pop groups

 

Well, maybe not to perform but...

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2048451/X-Factor-2011-Noel-Gallagher-says-Simon-Cowell-wanted-judge.html

 

http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/274971-noel-gallagher-turned-down-pound1millon-x-factor-deal/

Did Oasis ever appear on x factor? Kasabian? U2? Beady Eye? Noel Gallagher's high flying birds?

 

:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

Thanks for the laugh man

oasis is britpop, a sub catagory of "pop", and if pop means popular, oasis, and even kasabian qualify. That's why I think no bands can be put under such a wide genre.

 

Also, Noel was almost a judge on the x factor this year.

 

Ruth_42's right. Like whatever you want, don't let titles or critics tell you other wise!

Coldplay has won two Alternative Album Grammys

They won Best Rock Album for Viva La Vida

Itunes classifies MX as pop

 

Meaning, I think the cross over genres and don't stick to one or the other, they just play what they want.

I couldn't give a shit what they are. When they showed that intro for Coldplay on X Factor, it took me right back to when I saw each video for the first time, the performance at Glastonbury, the moments when I fell deeper in love with this band. I felt proud for them that were on such a huge stage.

 

Shame you couldn't feel that.

I only watched some of it on youtube, im not a fan of X Factor at all

Well, maybe not to perform but...

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2048451/X-Factor-2011-Noel-Gallagher-says-Simon-Cowell-wanted-judge.html

 

http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/274971-noel-gallagher-turned-down-pound1millon-x-factor-deal/

 

Now that's an whole other question all together. I don't think Chris Martin would accept an invitation to be a judge either.

Long multi-quote post ahead.

 

Watched them on X Factor and it was so cringeworthy and i thought to myself, is this what they have become now? on a show with JLS,leona lewis and westlife

 

Comparing Coldplay to Westlife? Seriously? :|

 

They've always been a pop group. Don't be stupid.

 

So thanks for starting ANOTHER thread about it.

 

:nod:

 

I don't think there a pop group at all. I think people lable things in to broad a manner. Pop is something like Justian Beiber (and there's nothing wrong with that. He's just an example) Lady GaGa would be more of Club-Pop. Dubstep type of groups would just be club music. See what I'm getting at? People just put it all under pop.

 

I think Coldplay change there sound so much, they can't really be put under a genre. Paradise was acoustic, A Rush of Blood To The Head solidified Alternatives standing in the music buissness, X&Y was a little like ARoBTTH but with space rock elements, etc.

 

While Mylo Xyloto continues the trend of experimentation with new sounds, songs like Paradise are very different from Lady GaGa, and might be classified as Electro-Alternative or something. I don't really know, and I actually love that. Birtpop, which Coldplay are often labled under, is very different from the kind of pop you are probally thinking about, and if anyone actual read this whole thing, here's my point. I don't think anything can just be labled under "Pop" it's to broad a subject. If you dig deeper into genres you may find something that sounds very close to Mylo Xylotos style. Hurts Like Heaven could be classified as Shoegazing. Just because something is popular doesn't make it pop music. The BEatles are popular, Happiness Is A Warm Gun is not a pop song. Led Zeppelin are popular, Dazed and Confused is not a pop song, etc.

 

Someone clearly does not know their genres.

 

First, Justin Bieber should not be the defining standard of pop. While he IS a pop artist, there are too many subgenres for you to generalize that all pop more or less sounds like this. (I'm not saying that's what you meant, but that's what it sounded like to me.)

 

Second, Coldplay using synths does not mean they suddenly have "space rock influences." It means they're using synths. There's a difference.

 

As for your Mylo Xyloto paragraph...I don't even know what to say. Electro-alternative? Shoegaze? You must be out of your mind.

 

(I'm sorry if it seems like I'm being rude. I'm really trying not to be. While I understand what you're trying to say, your points are just all over the place. Sorry.)

 

Just because they've performed on a particular show doesn't mean they should be labeled as pop.

 

+1

 

I really don't get how they could've ever been considered anything but a pop group. Nothing in and of itself wrong with that, essentially the beatles were a pop group.

 

Exactly.

 

^ Tell me a band that would refuse the free publicity and money from being on a show like that.

 

And if YOU started a band, and YOU were offered a spot to be on X-Factor, wouldn't you do it? I sure would. Screw all the young people, sitting in their mother's basement, accusing me of being a sellout piece-of-shit. I'm sure they care what we think.

 

Another +1.

 

Hmm, the thing with Coldplay, in my opinion, is they were already popular, it's not like they were a new band trying to gain exposure, they already had exposure.. And having them say things like, correct if I'm wrong, they never want to play X-factor or have their songs on Glee..Then turn around and let Glee cover Fix You and then play X-factor...The whole thing just rubbed me the wrong way...I dunno, to me it just makes them look really desperate to appeal to the young pop loving youth.. But hey, that's just me.

 

That being said, I still love them.. And just cause they are a pop band doesn't mean they are bad.

 

See, that's another thing. I think there are some people who don't understand that you can have good pop. Yes, people, it is possible. Just go out and explore a bit. You'll be surprised at what you might find.

 

Did Oasis ever appear on x factor? Kasabian? U2? Beady Eye? Noel Gallagher's high flying birds?

 

Given that all the people you mentioned have huge ego issues, anyway, your argument is invalid. (Way to go by mentioning the Gallagher brothers for three of your five choices, BTW.)

 

Coldplay has won two Alternative Album Grammys

They won Best Rock Album for Viva La Vida

Itunes classifies MX as pop

 

Meaning, I think the cross over genres and don't stick to one or the other, they just play what they want.

 

...Or maybe people just classify genres differently?

Hmm, the thing with Coldplay, in my opinion, is they were already popular, it's not like they were a new band trying to gain exposure, they already had exposure.. And having them say things like, correct if I'm wrong, they never want to play X-factor or have their songs on Glee..Then turn around and let Glee cover Fix You and then play X-factor...The whole thing just rubbed me the wrong way...I dunno, to me it just makes them look really desperate to appeal to the young pop loving youth.. But hey, that's just me.

 

That being said, I still love them.. And just cause they are a pop band doesn't mean they are bad.

 

 

As opposed to the hipster indie kid audience they normally appeal to? The pop audience is their audience and has been since Yellow.

Did Oasis ever appear on x factor? Kasabian? U2? Beady Eye? Noel Gallagher's high flying birds?

 

 

U2 probably would if they were touring around the time of the show. They've certainly played similar types of shows in the past. The others probably wouldn't, but their audience was never the same as Coldplay's audience to it's not a reasonable comparison really.

Probably not, and why? Because they arnt pop groups

 

Oasis' biggest hit, wonderwall, is very much a pop song.

As opposed to the hipster indie kid audience they normally appeal to? The pop audience is their audience and has been since Yellow.

 

You completely missed the point she was trying to make. She mentioned that they already had exposure and were popular. She was merely mentioning how they're making decisions now that they wouldn't have probably made in the past.

You completely missed the point she was trying to make. She mentioned that they already had exposure and were popular. She was merely mentioning how they're making decisions now that they wouldn't have probably made in the past.

 

 

No, I got that. It's just that I don't agree with this notion that at some mythical point in the past Coldplay had some sort of indie credibility they somehow gave up. I mean it's not like The Cribs playing X Factor or something. For better or worse, Coldplay have always slotted in with the type of acts that play shows like X Factor.

No, you don't get it, because she never mentioned anything about "indie cred." (You must be reading between the lines or something.) They've been popular since they've started. It's the way in which they're currently immersing themselves into pop culture in ways that they haven't done previously, even being as popular as they were beforehand. They're, in a way, becoming something that they weren't in the beginning. If that makes any sense.

^Yesss exactly!

 

You completely missed the point she was trying to make. She mentioned that they already had exposure and were popular. She was merely mentioning how they're making decisions now that they wouldn't have probably made in the past.

 

Thank yoou! At least someone got it

 

No, I got that. It's just that I don't agree with this notion that at some mythical point in the past Coldplay had some sort of indie credibility they somehow gave up. I mean it's not like The Cribs playing X Factor or something. For better or worse, Coldplay have always slotted in with the type of acts that play shows like X Factor.

 

Ehh, I don't think they ever really had indie credibility ..I'm quite aware of the fact that they have probably always been a pop band.. And it did/does bother me that they played X Factor..Why? Cause I don't really agree with them being slotted with those types of acts..I've always thought of Coldplay as a little higher than the acts like Justin Bieber and Rihanna who would play a show like X-factor or like American Idol or something along those lines.

 

It doesn't bother you? Well good for you.

Yeah, for the most part, the acts that perform on those sorts of shows aren't quality music. (There are exceptions, but generally speaking, that's how it is.) This isn't even taking into consideration that this stuff is live music, which is something I tend to be pretty darn picky about.

No, you don't get it, because she never mentioned anything about "indie cred." (You must be reading between the lines or something.) They've been popular since they've started. It's the way in which they're currently immersing themselves into pop culture in ways that they haven't done previously, even being as popular as they were beforehand. They're, in a way, becoming something that they weren't in the beginning. If that makes any sense.

 

 

Yes, but when you imply (as many here have done) that such immersion is automatically a bad thing, "selling out" etc., and then compare them to "real" bands who would never commit such heinous actions, that pretty much amounts to the same thing. Personally, I find such arguments tedious when bands actually have changed radically, when applied to a band like Coldplay who at most have gone from making one kind of mainstream pop music to another kind of the same music, it's downright laughable.

 

The only point I was trying to make is that the Coldplay from 2000 (or 2002, 2005 or 2008) wouldn't have been out of place playing X-Factor, and might very well have done so if the show had existed back then and they had an offer.

LOLWUT.

 

No, seriously. Here's what's wrong with what you just said.

 

1. We never implied anything. Neither of us. You're just pulling stuff out of thin air.

2. There's a difference between immersion within a certain facet of pop culture and abandoning part of the identity you had as an artist before said immersion. Neither of us are saying this is exactly what's going on with Coldplay, but it sometimes comes off that way. I don't get why that's so hard to understand.

3. Comparisons? To whom? Give me an example.

4. Ummm. I don't know if you're listening to the same thing I'm listening to, but I think Coldplay have changed pretty drastically.