Yess, what she said, annnd

 

Their music hasn't changed? Something tells me that the Coldplay back in 2000 would have never of been asked to play X-Factor... Do you honestly think a song like Don't Panic or Yellow would really fit an environment like X factor like an ETIAW or Charlie brown would..? Come on hahah

I couldn't give a shit what they are. When they showed that intro for Coldplay on X Factor, it took me right back to when I saw each video for the first time, the performance at Glastonbury, the moments when I fell deeper in love with this band. I felt proud for them that were on such a huge stage.

 

Shame you couldn't feel that.

 

l know what you mean, it sort of hit home.

^Yesss exactly!

 

 

 

Thank yoou! At least someone got it

 

 

 

Ehh, I don't think they ever really had indie credibility ..I'm quite aware of the fact that they have probably always been a pop band.. And it did/does bother me that they played X Factor..Why? Cause I don't really agree with them being slotted with those types of acts..I've always thought of Coldplay as a little higher than the acts like Justin Bieber and Rihanna who would play a show like X-factor or like American Idol or something along those lines.

 

It doesn't bother you? Well good for you.

 

Rihanna did not like this kind of show that is why it has turned into little schoolgirl who must learn to X factor and footwear that expresses its disgust for such resignation.

more costume? its origin is African and Irish. they are super stupid medias

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/x-factor/8903314/Rihannas-explicit-X-Factor-message.html

 

Coldplay you think was really in the show?

 

no interaction in public.

Did Oasis ever appear on x factor? Kasabian? U2? Beady Eye? Noel Gallagher's high flying birds?

 

This dude has the most ridiculous posts.

Coldplay has always been mainstream and well, they're rock. or alternative rock and pop. Thats what make them amazing. they can do ANYTHING! and thats not a common thing. imagine bono singing we found love. i love bono, but i dont see it. coldplay can, which makes them very DIVERSE. and thats a good thing.

 

plus, didnt they BLOW EVERYONE'S SOCKS OFF AT THE X FACTOR!??! THEIR PERFORMANCE WAS MEGA AND AMAZING!! and was well. WOW BRILLIANT OMG!

 

Chris and the boys think they suck so i guess they get fricking excited when they're asked to play! especially since they werent asked to change how they sounded.

Did Oasis ever appear on x factor? Kasabian? U2? Beady Eye? Noel Gallagher's high flying birds?

That's not a correct reply to Baw8tosee. Do you mean to say that those mentioned bands would refuse if they would be asked? Don't say again that they won't be asked because they are not pop, because that's not what point Bawatecc was trying to make.

 

On another note, how can you say U2 is not pop? Do you distinguish them from Coldplay solely for Coldplay playing at X-factor and U2 hasn’t (yet)? If not, what is it that makes Coldplay Pop and U2 not?

besides, dont you feel happy that they are BEING ASKED to do those things like xfactor etc?? it means that they are AWESOME and something that people WANT TO SEE!

They should BURN their instruments, have plastic surgery and become a boy band.

OH MY GOD.

I need to find my letter to Santa and make this my #1 Christmas wish. Thank God I didn't send it.

Yess, what she said, annnd

 

Their music hasn't changed? Something tells me that the Coldplay back in 2000 would have never of been asked to play X-Factor... Do you honestly think a song like Don't Panic or Yellow would really fit an environment like X factor like an ETIAW or Charlie brown would..? Come on hahah

 

 

Maybe not don't Panic, but Yellow definitely would fit. (better than Charlie Brown IMHO)

LOLWUT.

 

No, seriously. Here's what's wrong with what you just said.

 

1. We never implied anything. Neither of us. You're just pulling stuff out of thin air.

2. There's a difference between immersion within a certain facet of pop culture and abandoning part of the identity you had as an artist before said immersion. Neither of us are saying this is exactly what's going on with Coldplay, but it sometimes comes off that way. I don't get why that's so hard to understand.

3. Comparisons? To whom? Give me an example.

4. Ummm. I don't know if you're listening to the same thing I'm listening to, but I think Coldplay have changed pretty drastically.

 

 

Let me take these in order:

 

1. Many people here (including the OP) most certainly did. I never singled you out as one of the ones who said that.

2. What you're not getting is that from my point of view, Coldplay is not now doing anything very out of line with what their identity always has been. The band (and Chris in particular) have always had an affinity for pop music. Chris has been writing songs for/with Pop artists for around a decade now. Furthermore, I don't see how Yellow is not every bit as much a pop song as anything off MX.

3. See the post on this thread where they were compared to U2, Kasabian, Oasis, and both the post Oasis offshoot bands. If you need more evidence see the countless times in other threads where Coldplay are compared unfavorably to bands like Muse or Radiohead, often for reasons that have nothing to do with their music, but with the fact that coldplay have gone "mainstream" while those other bands have "integrity."

4. I never said it wasn't different, just that the overall type of band they are and the music they play is not all that different. I'll give you that that's perhaps a fair arguement if you're using only Parachutes as a refrence point, but all of their other albums have been fairly "poppy" IMHO. As I said before, Yellow, Clocks, Fix You, The Scientist, Speed of Sound, VLV and Lovers in Japan are all more or less pop songs every bit as much as ETIAW or Paradise. That said, the breadth of change in Coldplay's sound is no more than other bands have done (80's U2/90's U2), and a good deal less than some (Aerosmith playing hard rock in the 70's and then morphing into a hard rock band in the mid 80's)

 

I'm not trying to be contentious or to provoke a fight, I just really don't get where you're coming from at all.

Chill u guys.

I LOVE this performance, not just cuz I wanna listen to Chris' heartbeat like Ellen :dazzled: (:D)

but also because it shows how this "horrible" eurodance song is actually a regular Coldplay pop-rock song with some synthesizers at the beginning.

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htKAYiMG-RM]Web Exclusive: Ellen Rehearses with Coldplay - YouTube[/ame]

 

I'd rather be a comma than a full stop.

 

 

That's what MX is all about. :cool4:

Chill u guys.

I LOVE this performance, not just cuz I wanna listen to Chris' heartbeat like Ellen :dazzled: (:D)

but also because it shows how this "horrible" eurodance song is actually a regular Coldplay pop-rock song with some synthesizers at the beginning.

 

Web Exclusive: Ellen Rehearses with Coldplay - YouTube

 

I'd rather be a comma than a full stop.

 

 

That's what MX is all about. :cool4:

 

 

That's the thing. For all the maligning of ETDIAW, the lyrics IMHO are classically and unmistakably Chris Martin Lyrics.

Oasis' biggest hit, wonderwall, is very much a pop song.

 

A rock song that became popular, Oasis were very much a rock and roll band right till the end!

:sneaky:

^Yesss exactly!

 

 

 

Thank yoou! At least someone got it

 

 

 

Ehh, I don't think they ever really had indie credibility ..I'm quite aware of the fact that they have probably always been a pop band.. And it did/does bother me that they played X Factor..Why? Cause I don't really agree with them being slotted with those types of acts..I've always thought of Coldplay as a little higher than the acts like Justin Bieber and Rihanna who would play a show like X-factor or like American Idol or something along those lines.

 

It doesn't bother you? Well good for you.

 

Wow, Rihanna,Coldplay and Bieber all in one category

 

Yess, what she said, annnd

 

Their music hasn't changed? Something tells me that the Coldplay back in 2000 would have never of been asked to play X-Factor... Do you honestly think a song like Don't Panic or Yellow would really fit an environment like X factor like an ETIAW or Charlie brown would..? Come on hahah

 

dont panic would never fit in with X factor, not alot of there older stuff would of in my opinion, now there music is alot more pop "friendly"

 

That's not a correct reply to Baw8tosee. Do you mean to say that those mentioned bands would refuse if they would be asked? Don't say again that they won't be asked because they are not pop, because that's not what point Bawatecc was trying to make.

 

On another note, how can you say U2 is not pop? Do you distinguish them from Coldplay solely for Coldplay playing at X-factor and U2 hasn’t (yet)? If not, what is it that makes Coldplay Pop and U2 not?

 

U2 are very much still a rock n roll band though! More so than coldplay

 

 

A question, How many of you are pop fans and how many are rock fans?!

I'm a fan of both since you're asking.

 

Oasis were certainly a rock band through and through in attitude, but many of there biggest hits were pop songs structurally and aesthetically (and no that doesn't just mean a rock song that becomes popular.) Oasis even experimented a bit with dance music, and electropop. (Most notably on Standing on the Shoulder of Giants). Oasis' music had very strong roots in pop (as did that of their idols The Beatles).

 

As for U2, they've always also had a strong pop element. (hence their album Pop) Discotheque is totally a dance pop song, albeit one with a pretty spiky edge.

 

IMHO, Coldplay are still a "rock" band in the sense that they write their own songs and play their own instruments as opposed to a totally manufactured pop act. They just happen to like pop music.

OK. Here we go. Responding to fakfak's previous post (sorry, this took a while to type, and that's why it looks so out of place):

 

1. If you're not comparing us to those people, then why would you even bring it up in the first place? That makes no logical sense.

2. No, I got that. I just think you're wrong. It's like rainplay said. Saying you'd never do something, just to turn around and do it (e.g. appear on "Glee")...it's a little bit offputting. Why would you do something you said you wouldn't do? Also, the difference between "Yellow" and most stuff off of MX is that "Yellow" is actually a fine piece of work. MX is not. You seriously cannot tell me that "Yellow" and "Paradise" are the same type of pop song. If you honestly think that...well, I don't know what to tell you.

3. OH FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. First off, that post is utter garbage anyway. He tried to make a point and failed. Secondly, anyone who compares Coldplay to acts like that are wrong, as Coldplay aren't even like Muse or Radiohead. Third, people have been saying the same thing about Muse, so your point is invalid.

4. But it is. They've changed each album. Each album has a different feel. I'm not saying that's a problem. (That is, unless we really want to get into a discussion about how subpar I feel MX is, but I've already mentioned that once, and I'd rather not get into that discussion right now.) That's my point. It's fine that have pop, as long as it's good. It's just that MX is a really bad example of that, and it's more like the not-so-good pop we all hear on the radio than the soild, beautiful pop that we're all used to hearing. (Don't accuse me of being one of those people who just like the old stuff, either, because I'm totally a Viva kid.)

 

Oh, and while I'm thinking about it, this is kinda trivial, but learn how to multi-quote. Please.

That's not a correct reply to Baw8tosee. Do you mean to say that those mentioned bands would refuse if they would be asked? Don't say again that they won't be asked because they are not pop, because that's not what point Bawatecc was trying to make.

 

On another note, how can you say U2 is not pop? Do you distinguish them from Coldplay solely for Coldplay playing at X-factor and U2 hasn’t (yet)? If not, what is it that makes Coldplay Pop and U2 not?

 

I know, right? U2 put out an ALBUM called "Pop" :laugh3:

Oh you know U2 is even more ridiculous show become superficiality and glitter and others crap. an example. There are other means to make charity with the concerts.

 

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW1NoV25hZE]The Edge- catwalk model - YouTube[/ame]

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C1FTjB-CZg&feature=related]Larry Mullen on the catwalk in Dublin - YouTube[/ame]

 

 

 

our there is no style of musics and is requiring labels to sell songs of the bands should do the same shit. and there are many bands that work with another bands of others styles.

 

example.

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjIwmJMqrco&feature=related]T.H.E. (The Hardest Ever) - YouTube[/ame]

 

 

you that rap urban okay to become strange mixed with others collaborations :confused:

 

or to waste too much time to work leaves less time doing hobbies. also some bands think in this way and need more programming. and not good images in the work have a advertising boyband exemple Muse,kasabian,etc.. it's a job to be musicians composers artists (are respected artists or not) and gains enormously because the public buys music that they love has no real meaning.and have any integrity pff

I like Coldplay and Radiohead are still integrated and integrity with the fans. despite the imposition of record companies .

theyre becoming a kiddies act now tbh, but its the kiddies who rule the charts these days so maybe thats who theyre aiming at

OK. Here we go. Responding to fakfak's previous post (sorry, this took a while to type, and that's why it looks so out of place):

 

1. If you're not comparing us to those people, then why would you even bring it up in the first place? That makes no logical sense.

2. No, I got that. I just think you're wrong. It's like rainplay said. Saying you'd never do something, just to turn around and do it (e.g. appear on "Glee")...it's a little bit offputting. Why would you do something you said you wouldn't do? Also, the difference between "Yellow" and most stuff off of MX is that "Yellow" is actually a fine piece of work. MX is not. You seriously cannot tell me that "Yellow" and "Paradise" are the same type of pop song. If you honestly think that...well, I don't know what to tell you.

3. OH FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. First off, that post is utter garbage anyway. He tried to make a point and failed. Secondly, anyone who compares Coldplay to acts like that are wrong, as Coldplay aren't even like Muse or Radiohead. Third, people have been saying the same thing about Muse, so your point is invalid.

4. But it is. They've changed each album. Each album has a different feel. I'm not saying that's a problem. (That is, unless we really want to get into a discussion about how subpar I feel MX is, but I've already mentioned that once, and I'd rather not get into that discussion right now.) That's my point. It's fine that have pop, as long as it's good. It's just that MX is a really bad example of that, and it's more like the not-so-good pop we all hear on the radio than the soild, beautiful pop that we're all used to hearing. (Don't accuse me of being one of those people who just like the old stuff, either, because I'm totally a Viva kid.)

 

Oh, and while I'm thinking about it, this is kinda trivial, but learn how to multi-quote. Please.

 

Ok, I've spent some time with the multi quote thing and I just can't get it to work so apologies on that one right off the bat, I'm not doing it to be annoying or obstinate.

 

1. I assumed that by posting on a given thread your post should be taken in context of said thread's larger conversation, on whose points I thought you were attempting to build. So I guess in the end, this point applies to the thread as a whole, not explicitly to either of you.

 

2. People can change their minds. As for the specific example of Glee, I thought what happened there was pretty obvious. Chris probably wanted to build goodwill between the show's creative team and himself, as his wife was going to be appearing on the show. That's just my opinion, but it certainly fits the available facts quite well. Paradise and Yellow are not exactly the same type of song, but again IMHO there not as different as you apparently believe. Paradise is probably more aptly compared to VLV.

 

3. See reply to point #1 Even if it's not a point you made, it's fairly ubiquitous.

 

4. Fair enough, though the question of a particular album being sub-par or not is totally subjective. I guess my point was that (prior to the release of MX) if you were to ask any music label executive what kind of sound would be the most "mainstream", "Like Coldplay" probably would've been a common answer. It sounds to me that your main issue is that you just don't think MX is very good, which is not the point I got from your earlier posts, though It is a point I can respect, if not agree with.

dont panic would never fit in with X factor, not alot of there older stuff would of in my opinion, now there music is alot more pop "friendly"

Yeah I know, that was my point.

 

Ok, I've spent some time with the multi quote thing and I just can't get it to work so apologies on that one right off the bat, I'm not doing it to be annoying or obstinate.

 

1. I assumed that by posting on a given thread your post should be taken in context of said thread's larger conversation, on whose points I thought you were attempting to build. So I guess in the end, this point applies to the thread as a whole, not explicitly to either of you.

 

2. People can change their minds. As for the specific example of Glee, I thought what happened there was pretty obvious. Chris probably wanted to build goodwill between the show's creative team and himself, as his wife was going to be appearing on the show. That's just my opinion, but it certainly fits the available facts quite well. Paradise and Yellow are not exactly the same type of song, but again IMHO there not as different as you apparently believe. Paradise is probably more aptly compared to VLV.

 

3. See reply to point #1 Even if it's not a point you made, it's fairly ubiquitous.

 

4. Fair enough, though the question of a particular album being sub-par or not is totally subjective. I guess my point was that (prior to the release of MX) if you were to ask any music label executive what kind of sound would be the most "mainstream", "Like Coldplay" probably would've been a common answer. It sounds to me that your main issue is that you just don't think MX is very good, which is not the point I got from your earlier posts, though It is a point I can respect, if not agree with.

 

Okay, so remember that all I said initially was that they have made decisions recently that bothered me... That's it! If you never meant to respond directly to me, then don't quote me.

 

Yep, people change their minds.. I honestly really don't care why they chose to appear on Glee, it was just the fact that they were so adamant with not appearing on it, then they turn around and go on it that bothered me.. And agan, if that didn't bother you, than good for you.

 

And okay, you don't think Paradise and Yellow are too different.. Mmkay, well I happen to think that Yellow is a well written song while Paradise is an underwhelming pop song.

 

So let's agree to disagree, k?

Yeah I know, that was my point.

 

 

 

Okay, so remember that all I said initially was that they have made decisions recently that bothered me... That's it! If you never meant to respond directly to me, then don't quote me.

 

Yep, people change their minds.. I honestly really don't care why they chose to appear on Glee, it was just the fact that they were so adamant with not appearing on it, then they turn around and go on it that bothered me.. And agan, if that didn't bother you, than good for you.

 

And okay, you don't think Paradise and Yellow are too different.. Mmkay, well I happen to think that Yellow is a well written song while Paradise is an underwhelming pop song.

 

So let's agree to disagree, k?

 

Perhaps I wasn't clear. I quoted you because I mistakenly believed that what you wrote was intended to elaborate on what others had posted prior. My error.

^ That's fine. Haha I don't even know what was posted prior to me anyways.. I'm usually too lazy to read through everything.

GUIZE FLORENCE AND THE MACHINE WERE ON THE US X-FACTOR TONITE :angry:

 

SELLOUT BITCH FLORENCE :angry:

 

I KUT U. NO LONGER LISSEN TO MUZIK CUZ U ON XFAKTRR :angry:

^ That's fine. Haha I don't even know what was posted prior to me anyways.. I'm usually too lazy to read through everything.

 

 

That's cool. It's just kind of weird to me that so many people (not you) feel the need to come up with long, complex, supposedly objective theories for what's probably best boiled down to "I didn't really like the new album." That's perfectly fine but it is totally subjective.

GUIZE FLORENCE AND THE MACHINE WERE ON THE US X-FACTOR TONITE :angry:

 

SELLOUT BITCH FLORENCE :angry:

 

I KUT U. NO LONGER LISSEN TO MUZIK CUZ U ON XFAKTRR :angry:

 

 

Ok, now that is a bit of a weird choice for that show IMHO.