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Nothin' On You by B.o.B ft. Bruno Mars

Still got such a long way to go.................................... 67092

Condolences to @iamsue and @alexis16, sorry for your loss of your mothers, as well as Iamsue's sister's dashchund. My own sister recently lost a pet of hers, her really colorful parrot who could talk flew out and unfortunately was eaten or something. :sob: and also she lost her cat semi recently who actually only had three legs,name was "Tripaw" and she got a tattoo specially dedicated to the cat :broken_heart: I don't blame you for breaking down during Daddy @alexis16, it's easily their saddest song in a very long time, and one of their most, if not their most legitimately dark melancholic song yet. Just so different for them to be doing that this era after the happy go lucky pop we have had of recently, and I'm also very glad we've had this change in scenery, it's brought out some great things and maybe some less desirable things that we nonetheless have needed to discover about ourselves as of late. I can relate so much to your comment about perhaps that scars might never go away, such as my mental illness, maybe it will never get back to how it was before it all started but at the very least I'll keep getting better and better and deal with it in a much more healthy manner like you :)

I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY'RE PLAYING SPARKS TOO! :O Or I guess I can, because there was a million comments asking for it...... But damn now we get the best of both worlds! A great song live, and another great song, a really rare song live! Geez I still can hardly believe they're playing both IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE THEY PLAYED SPARKS :O

Well I just think it's a little unfair they threw a really obscure song in there, when they obviously knew which one was gonna win for the start (they brought the bells and everything for Viva). It's like they're trolling the fanbase who realizes there's already countless live versions of Viva, and there'll be countless more, so as great of a song as it is it shouldn't be a "what's your favorite song" poll, it should be "which would you like to see played", although I guess most people don't know that song so they just automatically vote Viva, and while I like Viva more I would definitely choose the song that rarely ever gets played live, and to actually witness it LIVE would be something else. There are more fitting songs in Coldplay's discography for the era, but out of the choices in the poll, it is fair to say Viva was the most fitting. From one of the best songwriters the UK has ever produced. :D The thing that caught my eye first was "divine inspiration from Jon Hopkins" :joy: :joy: freaking awesome I'm glad they still look up to him Eh, maybe. I'd have to watch the Q&A to know what you're talking about but they don't seem to believe in following these rules strictly so they'll probably play both for all the fans in the comment section :joy: Oh damn, anybody know what the original album title was yet? I remember Music of the Spheres somewhere but I can't put my finger on it..... anybody guide me?

Well you've already seen my post..... seems we may have a lot in common :joy: I like every single Coldplay album but it just sucks having to put one last. I don't think this is going last anytime soon personally but yeah, it kinda sucks when you have somebody else looking at your lists and going "why do you not like that one?!?!?!?!" I DO like it, its just that it's the weakest out of them all, ya know what I'm getting at? I'm very open minded when it comes to different forms of music so it's rare I actually dislike something honestly. Those are also styles of music more familiar to us. Not sure about Blur but U2's song is just little sprinkles of gospel, where this is literally full blown choir and everything. So it's much easier to like U2's song, as it's longer, has good guitar riffs and solos, got a good beat, etc. But with BrokEn it's just so odd compared to the music we usually listen to, it's gonna have to grow on us! I like U2's song better as well, just because it's more familiar and a genre I like more in general, but I still have to give it to Coldplay for going totally left field with this song and shattering every last expectation we had for this album. Leak? My version didn't have the clean version on there. BTW, Arabesque was out like half a month before the leak. And I'm pretty sure you listened to it when it came out? Or did you listen to that clean version anyway? I haven't really listened to the clean version but I do know the Jordan performance was clean, but he doesn't even pause, he just says "same damn blood" or whatever he said, it definitely wasn't "fucking". Threw me off a little but still very energetic nonetheless. Well that's what some people want, they just like that acoustic Parachutes-ey vibe, or some of the more polished and recent acoustics like UATW, which I think Eko and Old Friends more closely resemble. They don't care as much about the band progressing into uncharted territory, because they're more familiar with what they like already. Which is why some people like the acoustic stuff, and for others it just doesn't do it for them, and they instead want to see the band experiment more and surprise them. I like everything pretty much so I'm fine with some acoustic tracks that remind me of their older days, and also for them to step outside their comfort zones and grow as artists, and ultimately as people. I almost exclusively listen to music in the car, unless it's a concert or I'm previewing certain tracks I want to listen to, or I'm previewing an album. My main musical entertainment is definitely in the car, the sound just completely surrounds you, and you being in motion somehow complements it so well. For this reason I've also grown very interested in aligning certain songs with certain times of day, weather, mood, season, etc. perhaps to satisfy my synesthesia lol. Kind of off topic, but not when you consider that I actually think more songs on the Sunset side fit better on the Sunrise side, and vice versa. At sunrise itself the colors are definitely right for a lot of those songs, but I think a fair few of the Sunset songs sound like more early-middle of the day type stuff, where the Sunrise songs might fit the colors because they were played very early in the day in the Jordan concert, I would definitely consider them to be more end-of-the-day songs nonetheless. Because I'm rarely the driver I have TONS of experience making playlists (my parents always let me play my music in the car when we're driving) so I've grown quite picky about what songs fit which. :joy: I wouldn't see what's wrong in there. He was right about this album being the more experimental side, and the next will likely be more conventional. Coldplay's not touring this album, but they're likely touring the next one, probably in 2020, which will also probably be when they've figured out how to make their shows environmentally sustainable, which is why they want to hold out on touring until they figure out how to do that. First off, in the articles I've read they've mentioned that COLDPLAY wants to release another album ASAP, and the label was just making the announcment. So I don't necessarily think they're under much pressure from the label to release anything, just that they're under pressure from the world to deliver yet another happy go lucky outing. Which definitely validates this post: I half trusted Chris when he said that they didn't care much about success anymore, but after hearing COLDPLAY's decision to release another album quickly after this non-commercial one, that's definitely doubtful. It's GS all over again, but with what is in most eye's a much better and more ambitious album: this album is "intimate" and "experimental" and "something they needed to make". But it seriously sounds like they're trying to please everybody here. They want to please the fans looking for a more raw/experimental sound (are they listening to us?) and they're also catering to the mainstream crowd with albums such as AHFOD and LP9 (likely). Which is directly contrary to Chris' statements this era. The only reason I could see them not lying is if the label's hiding that they're pushing Coldplay to release another mainstream record after this one to recoup sales, but they're making it sound like Coldplay's decision (something I could definitely see a corporate driven label doing: even if they've had enough success, it's all about making MORE and MORE money amirite?) Otherwise though, it just sounds like an effort to justify/make an excuse as to why this record isn't mainstream or being toured. Then, they'll go back and make another mainstream album. They've done this since GS (and maybe even since VLV). Even though that album didn't please many people, I think it's something that perhaps they wanted to deliver for the fans wanting more experimental music, as even though it IS an electronic pop album it does have a lot of space and ambience in the record, things which they might have assumed we wanted. Even though Mylo, the more mainstream record was released 3 years after VLV, the more clear trend starts with GS and AHFOD, now they're doing almost the exact same thing over again. And as sad as it is that they're being forced in someway to cater to mainstream crowds I personally don't mind them doing album releases in this format. It gives us the music that WE want, and then the music that will earn them money and success. And their OUTSTANDING concerts. As I think I said earlier in this thread (it might have been another, apologies if I'm getting mixed up) I would definitely like a second chance to be closer to the main stage and become more physical with the performance, and to have the opportunity to attend an outside venue so I could witness the fireworks. I know that many Oldplayers don't care for these things either but personally all of that just captivated me, and at least a few times in my life I'd like to go to an AHFOD style concert again, that was just so killer. And if these mainstream albums provide that I'm all for, as long as they throw in some experimental stuff sometimes. Sadly this kind of results in less live plays of the more experimental stuff, but it's a relatively small sacrifice to be made to satisfy both sides of my personal music taste, and to satisfy both sides of Coldplay's crowd. Just talking about this makes me realize this is definitely more of a "how can we please everybody?" conversation, which since GS I bet they've been having as well. It just sucks that they have to alter their publicity to fit these eras accordingly, like they're trying to hide what they're actually doing or something. Now I'm secretly hoping a ton of their recordings are gonna be publicly leaked just like Radiohead and we'll be able to listen to all the gems that we otherwise would have never heard :joy: I personally liked most of the songs on AHFOD but if they go much further it's gonna upset me as well. Like I know they started up Los Unidades for a reason (oh wait, I guess they do care about what their fans think) but if they go in that direction..... just please no. That was right on that borderline of being too poppy for my taste, if they go any further and keep collaborating with garbage like Big Sean it's gonna be a real bummer, because I liked the concerts so much and heck I can only imagine what the concerts would have been like with the quality of Mylo's music, which is personally still my favorite album from them. Their best music AND my favorite style of concerts, DAMN curse me for not being a Coldplay fan earlier :joy: I just hope they don'y go too poppy, and that if they do they keep it modest like Orphans or Champion of the World, so they keep quality music but are still able to make it mainstream and accessible enough to have concerts like that. (As much as it impacts the performance, he actually manages to not do a half bad job on most songs even when he's running and jumping around the stage and what not. I know that most people say that the fancy light shows, confetti, fireworks etc. take away from the pure authenticity of the performance and music itself but I personally think they can be used to enhance a show, and again because I'm usually soooooo excited for a concert I don't know how I would have reacted to going to a AROBTTH concert, or a Parachutes concert, etc. When the energy of the Coldplay concerts perfectly reflected me inside last era, I'd be willing to take some sacrifices in performance for that :joy:) And this is something I think a lot of people miss. I think the first might have been a little less mainstream, and Viva, and EL but other than that all their albums have been mostly mainstream, partially being made for money. Obviously they could have gone full electrodancepop like some of the music at the time, so I definitely do think that they still have a love for doing rock specifically. And that their tastes leaned more towards the side of mainstream rock as well, at least in some points in their career. But now that rock has fallen out of the mainstream, whenever they do make music for some success they tend to avoid that these days. And I do think certain people need to stop conflating any "mainstream" music with music they simply don't like. You can say that the style of music that's popular now is not your style and that's completely fine, but to blindly claim all of mainstream music as being garbage is very oblivious, especially when it's a Coldplay fan who trashes their later work for being "tOo mAiNsTrEaM" when there wasn't anything less mainstream about the prior albums, it was simply a matter of differences in taste. And that they've always had some level of desire for success, or their label has forced them to after blowing up with Yellow, but with rock falling out of the mainstream they've been made to go a little more poppy, which has little to do with an increased desire for being mainstream, it's just that they're shifting their style to match the sound, which is the real issue for some people. (Obviously I'm not defending music being made for mainstream purposes alone. I think it's a good way to make a fortune if you get large enough, but after you experience a certain amount of success why is that desire still there to keep making big pop hits? We just want more and more money. Whether that's from the label, or the musician, or both. It's really an artist's choice for what purpose they want to make music, as long as they're not harming anybody it's fine by me. I think we should just listen to the music we want to listen to regardless of it's popularity or not, which really shouldn't be a factor on its own when deciding whether we like a song or not, it should just be whether we like the sound of the song itself, and other things such as creativity, originality, etc. Mainstream music can still be made to evolve into something more creative, but there's definitely more room in mainstream music to be lazy as most people just want a good tune. And it's plainly obvious to tell whether an artist is just following the trend or not, or trying to innovate and come up with original ideas. And personally that's among my factors in deciding whether I like a song. Like sonically I might prefer the sound of Mainstream Song A even though I'll admit it's nothing original or innovative, to Mainstream Song B which I can appreciate nonetheless as at least the artist has made an attempt to step outside their confort zone and make a statement with it, or trying to further a genre of music in some way, or even pinoeer a genre of music. POINT BEING, I really don't think we should solely judge music based on it's popularity or accessibility, if that was the case we should only like Parachutes, VLV, and EL, and despise most of the rest of Coldplay's discography :joy:) Of course we should wait and see, but many signs point to LP9 being more commercial: -We already know that some leftovers from the EL era will be used for LP9. One of these was Orphans, which managed to make it onto this album due to its darker themes. However, this song's instrumental is undeniably very poppy. Given that other leftovers from EL will be used for the next album there might be some experimentality to be had, but a lot of it might have ended up sounding similar to Orphans as well. -Chris has said many of the same things in this era as he did in the GS era, and the band has made a lot of similar decisions in this era as they did with that era (touring). If GS and AHFOD are considered to be a single era, what's been going on in this era so far practically mirrors that era almost identically AFAIK, thus it's easy to assume that LP9 will also be a more conventional record, also seeing as they have less time to make this reportedly (even though, to be fair, EL didn't exactly have a lot of time to be recorded either, they just had a lot of time off BEFORE then). -And the Italian DJ who has gotten everything right so far also says next era will be more conventional, so hey. Well darn I guess it feels kinda good at least having a single preview of one song I haven't heard yet from this era. I was expecting some spoilers of that song in this thread but I accepted it, as I avoided all spoilers for the album, I figured I'd play the previewer this time around :joy: ------------------- People above have been mentioning that Bani Adam and Kaleidoscope sound very similar. I can definitely see this connection, they're practically the same in the first half, just that Bani Adam is longer and a semitone up. And then there's the poem for the second half, with similar themes and a really similar voice. I definitely think Bani Adam is Kaleidoscope's more fleshed out spiritual successor. Also, remember in the AHFOD era when we were talking about how Kaleidoscope sounded eerily similar to a snippet at the end of a live performance of Trouble a while back? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS-NYH8_Ce0:248 I guess both Kaleidoscope and Bani Adam were born in this era. :joy: But this definitely far closer resembles Bani Adam. If somebody were to tell people then that they were witnessing what was to be a song that would only be released 5 years later, then again in a different format 9 years later it would have blown their mind. I listened to this in 2015 during those discussions, and I was totally convinced it was Kaleidoscope. Little did we know, we were more accurately witnessing a spectacle from the future..... a teeny little taste of what was to come..... oh if only the Oldplayers paid more attention to this snippet and perhaps realized Coldplay's future looked more bright than they were letting on..... :joy:

It's definitely it's own album away from VLV but this is the first time Coldplay has gone this experimental since then, so even though they have their differences I'd consider it VLV's spiritual successor. I find the tracklisting awkward for both albums myself. And thanks @Strawberry Swinger, appreciate it :D

@TheSavage_ says link is no longer available @shred it'd be nice if they did that. As for me, I'm staying up to watch Sunset :joy: like most others on here it will actually be sunrise by the time they play that, or because I'm further north actually the sun wouldn't have even risen yet, it would take another hour or so.

If you were saying Trouble in Town had the "abrupt" ending in the sense that the loud part is too short I agree with you there. GPASUYF is a relatively old Coldplay song so they've had lots of time to flesh out the last details of it, they know how long they wanna make it etc. I think Arabesque's 4 repetitions is just long enough without dragging it out but each to their own. I think EL should have a longer second verse. I think the "hold tight for everyday life" part is long enough but there definitely should be a long singalong alleluyah part in there, so as to bring up the energy in a final chorus. I think they did something similar in Up&Up though, and they're self aware that they don't wanna repeat the same trick too many times so they probably made a deliberate artistic decision to show mature restraint which I respect. They've done abrupt endings on MM, Birds, AICTAIY so I can see what you're talking about, now that 2 more songs have abrupt endings here. I mean lots of bands use the same tricks over and over again though, and I think they've definitely broken a lot of the mold that they've established for this album in making it a double album, portioning it better, not having the typical format of their albums in that they usually have a really big hit, another single, ballad, indie rock tune, so on so forth. So I think we should give them credit for veering away a little bit and becoming somewhat more unpredictable this time around. I somehow didn't think that they would do many abrupt endings, or I didn't see them coming, yet the first 2 singles released off this record featured exactly that.

I personally don't mind that WOTW/POTP isn't "finished", coming from a person who really likes longer songs too. I think to have that variety in some of your music where some songs don't necessarily feel finished kind of feels artistic, or at least that the songs are much shorter. Makes it less predictable. Short and sweet track that I personally think is fine as is, even though there might come a more fleshed out version in the future. Just like Guns, I personally think that one is underdone myself, but it's a good base for the song, whereas I feel WOTW/POTP works fine as a short and sweet acoustic track with a slightly unfinished aesthetic to it that the whole album kinda has. I just don't see it being taken in any direction that would benefit the song much, or improve it off of what it is now. Length isn't necessarily an indicator of quality, remember! At least not for me, and definitely not for this song.

Bruh I'm surprised they were able to bring as much of the personnel from the album as they did, I totally did not expect all the sax players, choir people, and Stromae to be there. I totally thought they'd use backing tracks and I think it being not just the four guys brought some authenticity to the perfomance, rather than just playing back the samples. I guess this isn't like a normal concert though so they were able to bring most people, I am still so surprised they put as much effort into this as they did. Too bad Davide Rossi wasn't there, would have been even more sick to hear his part being played live, but oh well. Also throughout the performance you can see he backs away from the mic with zero change in volume. So obviously lip synced. Cmon Chris you can do better, even with this era you're being honest enough as it is! TBF he had weaknesses in other songs that did show they were probably truly live. Just don't know why he couldn't sing that song live, like he can't sing that high anymore or what? I guess he is over 40..... Didn't know he played keyboards too, didn't notice that. Thanks for pointing this out :O Ah, he made it more finished in this version! The demo was even more raw and stripped, he finished some of the lyrics for this song, I'm not sure if he'd say it's completely "finished" just that it's short. I personally think they did a really good job with Arabesque, yes it ends abruptly but they made it sound more pleasant this time. Not sure what you're talking about with Trouble in Town, that one doesn't end all that abruptly EL ends fine but should be longer with a huge singalong "Alleluyah" part yeah, don't let the album get stale lol this totally should be turned into a live DVD if we aren't getting much of a tour this year. the production for this one especially reminds me of an outdoor version of Coldplay's Live 2014 GS dealie, it's obviously staged and whatever but they play the full album there, just the camera shots and everything look really similar, just that it's outside and in a completely different setting. with no crowd that I can see. plz Coldplay turn this into a live DVD :D (then again we might just get the live DVD on youtube because they already posted one part publicly, still be cool if they release it on physical formats tho)

@gvargas it really depends on your own personal taste. i liked the "live" feel of trouble in town better, but didn't like the absence of the clip which made it way more powerful IMO. arabesque sounds much more energetic live. i prefer the studio of winaf. i like the fact that the wotw/potp on the studio is really raw and stripped, in a demo format, but it's also nice to hear the cleaner version of it in the live performance, more finished (even though I think the choice to deliberately leave it unfinished for the album makes it have a certain aesthetic quality to it that contributes to the album's authenticity and honesty tbh. it isn't perfect, but the album's not supposed to have the polished feel, this is probably the most "honest" record coldplay's ever done really)

I doubt it would loop afterward cause sunset is the last part of the concert and after that there's nothing to wait for. anybody know when the premium exclusive content is supposed to show up?

It officially on youtube. took em long enough, it's also looping with the countdown timer on the livestream rn.

Too bad we won't get very many performances of that :(

That was such a fucking epic live performance omg

this song has a totally different vibe live :O like the sax sounds so much more "live" ya know..... jonny way more up front

lol full version of it apparently

hah there even doing the short song live

These building ambient tones in the live version are totally giving me M83 "Highest journey" vibes

I think the songs like Broken were kind of meant to be live

Wow awesome they didn't even use backing tracks for the others, they actually brought them all there :O

They're definitely doing some parts "live" just the cuts and everything so doesn't look live

Womp womp no sample, I guess mostly because they wanna keep it clean. It sounds worse without the sample, or with less energy, but it still freakin rocks