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anyone else having problems going to Muse's official website? I can't get there for some reason.:cry:

presales..:dizzy::wreck::cry: this scares the fuck out of me... :(

hahaha! so funny... I love the muppets and thom one and the David Cassidy one LOL

was wondering the same thing...:thinking:

someone slap me... where the hec have I been.. I had no clue about this new album.. Now I so jazzed.. Heard tranquillize and I really dig it.. Shadowplay sounds good too(available on itunes).:cool: I can't keep up with all the bands that I like here lately and what they are up to.. jeez..

Green plastic is saying that these shots are the cover art for the album.. front back

ouch.. this is a intriguing article.. read on: Radiohead Fans Feel Duped By In Rainbows' Poor Sound Quality, Possible Ulterior Motives Statements from band's management seem to indicate that downloadable album was just promotional tool for physical CD. By James Montgomery When Radiohead announced last week that they would be releasing their seventh album, In Rainbows, via their official Web site, there was much fanfare and some honest-to-goodness debate about the future of the music industry, the validity of major labels and just how people consume music. But in the days since that announcement, a whole lot of that fanfare has curdled, thanks to moves by the band and its management that some see as dishonest, distasteful and, well, downright un-Radiohead. The sentiment among many fans seems to have gone from admiration for the group's willingness to let the consumer decide how much to pay for the new album to anger over the low quality of the downloads — and dismay over the band's manager's statement that the you-choose-the-price downloads were just a promotional tool for the release of the physical CD. The first bone of contention arose October 9 — the day before Rainbows became available for download — when fans who ordered the album (either in its download-only form or as a deluxe, $81 "discbox" version) received an e-mail from Radiohead's official online store, announcing that "the album [would] come as a 48.4 MB ZIP file containing 10 x 160 [kilobits per second], DRM-free MP3s." To the casual music listener, the e-mail would be little more than an order confirmation (if not, you know, totally confusing), but to a segment of Radiohead's fanbase — aand to anyone who frequents file-sharing sites — it was a call to arms for two reasons. First and foremost, all of Radiohead's previous albums were already available as MP3s encoded at 320 kilobits per second — the highest-possible compression rate in the format (though still not nearing the quality of a compact disc) — and most file-sharers scoff at anything less than 192 kbps. (MP3 files encoded with a lower bit rate will generally play back at a lower quality — something not readily apparent on tiny iPod earbuds but obvious enough on high-end home stereos.) Second, most took issue with when Radiohead chose to announce that In Rainbows would be available at 160 kbps — after the majority of their fans had already paid for the download. To be fair, however, the band did give potential customers the power of choosing how much they wanted to pay to download the album. It could be had for as little as the transaction fee of 45 pence, or roughly 92 cents. There was also an option on the Web site to cancel orders; though, given the timing of the bit-rate announcement, fans had less than 24 hours to do so. "Most promo MP3s come at a higher bit rate," wrote the author of U.K. blog Kids Pushing Kids. "Worst pound and pence I've ever spent." "Radiohead has such delicate music that requires detail and depth of sound. ... I for one CAN tell the difference between 160 and 192," responded one commenter. "[With] 160 you can't hear the finer details that make Radiohead so great. I have lost a bit of respect for Radiohead for this. I would never make people pay for 160. They may as well just stream stuff off MySpace." No one seemed to understand why Radiohead decided to release Rainbows at 160 kpbs, though guitarist Jonny Greenwood told Rolling Stone, "We talked about it and we just wanted to make it a bit better than iTunes, which it is, so that's kind of good enough, really. It's never going to be CD-quality, because that's what a CD does." That explanation didn't fly with some fans, who began speculating that the decision was made to keep the album off P2P sites or as a subtle way of making fans purchase either the discbox or the physical release of the album next year. The thought behind this theory was that if Radiohead fans were willing to split hairs over something as seemingly inconsequential as kilobits per second, then surely they wouldn't mind shelling out cash for the actual CD version of Rainbows. And, as it turns out, the latter speculation seems to be true — especially after comments made by the band's managers, Chris Hufford and Bryce Edge, began to make their way around the Internet on Thursday (October 11) — which brings us to bone of contention number three. In an interview with U.K. trade publication Music Week, Hufford and Bryce spoke at length about the downloadable version of Rainbows and how it plays into the larger plan of releasing a physical copy of the album in stores next year. "In November we have to start with the mass-market plans and get them under way," Hufford told the magazine. "If we didn't believe that when people hear the music they will want to buy the CD, then we wouldn't do what we are doing," Edge said. To many, those comments sounded strangely, well, capitalistic and seemed to confirm that the lower-quality downloadable version of the album was little more than a promotional tool for the actual CD. (It didn't help that Edge is quoted as saying that "CDs are a fantastic bit of kit. ... You can't listen to a Radiohead record on MP3 and hear the detail; it's impossible.") And if that was the case, it probably would've been nice if the band — or its management — had let fans know before they paid (or, you know, didn't pay) to download it. Attempts to contact Edge for clarification on his comments were unsuccessful at press time. Is this entire backlash really just glorified nitpicking, or do members of Radiohead Nation have a legitimate reason to think they were duped? Well, the answer in both cases is probably "yes." On one hand, the main reason so many are upset (the 160 kbps thing) seems rather inconsequential, especially given the fact that most people downloading Rainbows are going to be listening to it on their computers or a portable MP3 player. But there is a slightly noticeable difference between a 160 kbps-encoded song and, say, one encoded at 320 (it's heard most easily when played on a stereo). And Radiohead have yet to really offer up any plausible explanation for why they even chose to go the 160 route, especially since their entire catalog is already available at 320. Furthermore, had the band announced the sound quality before people paid for the record — and if its managers had made the download sound like nothing more than a glorified demo a few days earlier — would 1.2 million people (as is being reported) still have made the decision to download it on the day it was released? Well, probably not. But really, who knows? In the end, it's really all about a series of intangibles — kilobits per second, fan loyalty, etc. — that makes it difficult to tell if Radiohead fans are upset because of a whole bunch of miscommunication, or if there was some less-than-honest business being done by a band not exactly known for being cold and calculating. Then again, it's also entirely possible that Thom Yorke and company tried to do something different with Rainbows, and as is the case with being first, they might not have gotten it right. "I paid zero, nothing, nada for the album," one fan wrote on an epic Stereogum thread about the album. "Sounds like Radiohead. But 160 kbps, that's not good enough. They are actually forcing us to buy the CD when it comes out." "Do not buy the record then. Was that not the point? Don't go around complaining like they did you a disservice by making an album available," another countered. "As if you wouldn't have downloaded the leak. Would you complain if you got the album for free and actually listened to the music instead of focusing on 160 kbps? Maybe you'd actually remember what music appreciation was and be forced to buy the album based on that notion instead." it certainly made me think.. what are you thoughts on this?

Seriously loving this album!!!:D But .....inquiring minds want to know (namely me) my big question is: Are they going to make the bonus songs available on the commercial release in January? Are we going to have a double CD option or just the one CD? It doesn't seem fair that these songs would only be available by purchasing the disc box set. I love all those bonus songs and want them badly, especially down is the new up! Please if someone can shed some light on this question or anything

here, here... or there there... Thanks for the article.. very good read for sure...:D

woah! I need a bigger computer monitor to view those pics...:shocked2::o:D

the latest from ateaseweb.org... Radiohead to sign record deal, CD out in January Posted on October 4th, 2007. Radiohead managers Chris Hufford and Bryce Edge were interviewed at BBC Radio 4’s ‘Today‘ this morning, confirming a record deal for Radiohead’s new album ‘In Rainbows‘ will be signed within the next 7 days. Chris Hufford said that the band are close to signing a record deal: “Ultimately, the band feel that this record, which they are incredibly proud of, deserves to be brought into the mass marketplace. That’s why we need a record company who have that infrastructure to deliver the CD. We’ve got about seven days to get it organised.” Does this current plan, with consumers setting the price make any financial sense? Chris Hufford: “It’s just another way of doing things and hopefully it will initiate artists and record labels to think about things a lot more and not just accept the status quo.” Bryce Edge also said that the band had faith people would not just download the album for free: “We might come out looking very foolish. We’re prepared to take a risk. If your music is great, people will then pay for it. One of the big mistake record companies have made is prosecuting students and kids for doing what we did years ago: taping music. It’s nonsense.” Hufford added: “The wonderful thing is that the consumer can decide how much a download is worth. I’m not sure how much just a digital download is worth. I’m not sure 79p at iTunes is the right price. We cannot control the price when the cd comes out in the shops in January. The market controls the price.” Regarding the £40 price for the DISCBOX edition of ‘In Rainbows’, Hutton said: “£40 is huge value for money. It costs a lot of money to make. How many drinks do you get for £40. how many football matches can you see for £40.”

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here's the artwork... aka new album cover...

yep.. saw that article... and you know what it doesn't surprise me in the least..:)

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folks, for those who don't want to pay the premo price of the discbox.. Looks like according to wikipedia that the regular release will happen next year. If you can stand to wait that long! :D

correct. only disc 1 which is the album for the digital download. If you read the discbox info it says that disc 2 is the bonus songs.. so this is actually NOT A DOUBLE ALBUM.

man i am not going to be able to sleep tonite.. <<<< goes to take some meletonin...... nite folks.. have pleasant In Rainbows dreams tonite.. :D

OK seriouly Radiohead are the best band in the world look at how much you have to pay for the download you get this message "ITS UP TO YOU"http://www.inrainbows.com/Store/ItsUptoYou.html you pick the prize It looks like they have no label so they're releasing this sans label DISCBOX THIS CONSISTS OF THE NEW ALBUM, IN RAINBOWS, ON CD AND ON 2 X 12 INCH HEAVYWEIGHT VINYL RECORDS. A SECOND, ENHANCED CD CONTAINS MORE NEW SONGS, ALONG WITH DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHS AND ARTWORK. THE DISCBOX ALSO INCLUDES ARTWORK AND LYRIC BOOKLETS. ALL ARE ENCASED IN A HARDBACK BOOK AND SLIPCASE. THE ALBUM DOWNLOAD AUTOMATICALLY COMES WITH THIS PACK. YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE FILE DIGITALLY FROM THE 10TH OCTOBER 2007. DISCBOXES ARE BEING MADE TO ORDER AND ARE PRICED AT £40.00 INCLUDING POSTAGE. SHIPPING WILL BEGIN ON OR BEFORE 3RD DECEMBER 2007. Finally making it worth buying a physical copy of an album again, but you can also just download it for free if you're only interesting in the music. It's basically really brilliant of them, and, well, i'm in love with radiohead again. It would be nice to see other bands doing stuff like that

GET READY FOLKS THE ALBUM IS AVAILBLE STARTING 10/10! I AM SO FUCKIN EXCITED FINALLY!! here's the link: http://www.inrainbows.com/Store/index.html no record label folks they are doing on their own it looks like cuz you can only get it from this site! http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/ apparently you can get it digitally for download as of 10/10.. They have a 2 CD discbox available to ship by 12/3. ! I am getting both for sure!

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woot! that's the show I went to! :D

what was said at DAS is stated here at atease: http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/09/26/radiohead-bring-back-up-on-the-ladder/

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