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:cheesy: Sign me up, Dave! I haven't missed one since #5, and I'm definitely not going to start missing them now.

I'M SORRY OK :bigcry: Yeah, I've started working on a few themes myself. I think I know, though, that I'll end up doing what I always do: waiting until I get my partner, doing some Last.fm stalking, and compiling it at the last minute. :tongue: I'm surprised you haven't done one of these. There's nothing to be nervous about, as all you do is put a bunch of songs you like (and that you hope your partner likes) together in one place. The worst thing that could happen is that your partner doesn't quite get it because his/her taste is so different than yours. Generally, people who participate in this are very nice about such things and appreciate the time and effort you put into it. :nice:

I'll do it, Mrk. :smiley:

Opener: "Don't Panic" Closer: "Amsterdam," by a mile.

Alright, let's try this. Parachutes: "High Speed" AROBTTH: "A Whisper" X&Y: "Low" VLV: "Lost!" (for the sole reason that I like "Lost?" heaps better) MX: "Paradise"

1. Mkay, fair enough. 2. ...Same riff and keyboard intro? What are you on about? I guess I'll agree to disagree on this point as well. 3. If that's the case, then why do people still make albums? I get what you're trying to get at with the TV analogy. I just don't think pieces of music like symphonies necessarily function that way all the time. Sure, when you go to a concert and the program says Tchaikovsky's 4th, you know you're going to get his whole 4th symphony instead of merely one movement. On that same note, however, there are some things that are better, become more well-known, and are listened to as separate entities instead of as whole works. The first movement of Beethoven's 5th is arguably the most well-known piece of classical music in the world. People know that one, but they don't know the rest of the symphony. It's the same principle with modern music. (I really hope this makes sense. It seems a bit jumbled to me.) I will agree that "Exogenesis" is too short, simply because you can't have a 10-minute symphony.

Nice to know we're cool, man. :smiley: 1. I don't think "Invincible" sounds all that bombastic throughout, and the guitar solo in "Invincible" is heaps better. 2. Given that "Unnatural Selection" is only in Em in the very beginning organ bit and stays in Gm for the rest of the song (which is like, 6 minutes), I don't understand how this point is that applicable at all. 3. Well, if you view it that way, then why do you listen to separate songs on a record? Albums are put together with the intent that they be listened as a work. (This is particularly true with concept albums.) This is assuming you actually listen to individual songs without going through the album; if you don't, then excuse me for making that assumption.

From Wiki: Since we're talking specifically about a three-movement symphony (and not a four-movement one), here's the bit on that: All three movements of Muse's "symphony" are around the same tempo (ranging from relatively slow to about medium, depending on what parts you're talking about).

Awwwww, Ian! :cheesy: Congrats to you, Jen, and Sammy! :hug:

I'm not trying to pick at you or anything, but I wanted to talk about a few things you said. 1. I don't understand how "Guiding Light" is an "Invincible" ripoff. Yes, there are similarities, but that doesn't make one a ripoff of the other. At any rate, the general Muser consensus is that "Guiding Light" is a dud on TR (which I agree with), and if Muse wanted to rip off their own song (not that they would), I think they could do a better job of it than that. 2. There are a load of songs that use the same chord sequence as "New Born" and "Unnatural Selection," and not just by Muse. There are only so many chord sequences in the world. A repeat is bound to happen. (And it does. Often. "The Four-Chord Song" proves this.) That in itself does not make the song a ripoff. 3. I think all the "Exogenesis" songs function fine on their own. Having said that, "Overture" is a bit neglected when it comes to my plays of it. Speaking of which, as a side note, despite what Muse says, "Exogenesis" isn't a true symphony. That is, not if you go by the technical definition. (And, as a classical musician, I feel like that's something I can't ignore.) Anyway, there's my thoughts on that. I hope you don't take any offense; I know we've had a discussion before that got a bit out of hand because I got a bit too much into it. (I never did say I was sorry about that, by the way. Please accept my apology.)

Michael, there are not enough words to express how much I love you right now.

Yeah, but you're doing it in such a way that doesn't equate to it being album vs. album, so much as song vs. song. "I like Album A more than Album B because, based on the songs being in a specific order, I like more of the songs on Album A." That's not conclusive in any sense of the word. You can't get that MX is better because you think "Up with the Birds" is better than "T2L: Unsustainable/Isolated System." IT MAKES NO SENSE. You wanna compare albums? Talk about cohesiveness or overall sound or technique or something that can be involved in an intelligent discussion. Basing your opinions solely on what you've said is ridiculous.

^ DO IT. (OK no, not really. I'd hate for the WoM to become cluttered with all sorts of threads like that.)

Oh, you mean the end bit when it just kinda dies out? Yeah, I can see why you feel that way. "Panic Station"...I don't know. Matt just sounds like he's trying too hard. I'm so glad someone else likes "Survival," though. It makes me feel less like a fool. See, lyrics is something I haven't really been abe to take into much consideration yet. I don't know the songs that well, and if I'm learning the lyrics, I like to have them in front of me. Maybe I'll gain some appreciation for "Explorers" when I become more acquainted with it that way... I don't mean any disrespect to you (as your opinion is as valid as anyone else's here), but I honestly don't see how you can come to that conclusion. Anyway, as Imke said, we do have our reasons. I used my review to precisely explain why I felt like T2L was subpar to everything else. But it wasn't all against what you were saying. I told you I'd join your "Big Freeze" fan club. :tongue: Now that you mention it, though, three tracks for "The 2nd Law" might have made more sense. We'll never know. Since everyone else is ranking albums now, here's more or less where I stand on that. Abso > OoS > TR = BHAR > Showbiz > T2L I know. Why do I have "Showbiz" ranked so low? I think it's just a bit too raw and unrefined for me. Matt himself admitted that they had absolutely no idea what they were doing when they recorded this album, so I think it's safe to say that. It doesn't help that it has a few songs that I'm not really a fan of. ("Overdue" is the first thing that comes to mind.) Some of you might not think BHAR and TR should be ranked as high as I put them, either. I put them as equals because, honestly, whether I favor one or the other depends on my mood. BHAR was my first Muse album, so I have a special attachment to it. As for TR, well, I just like it. A lot. I don't care if you think that's wrong, because it's all a matter of taste, anyway. Michael thinks it's cheesy. Well, it is, but I happen to love cheese. Anyway, that's my two cents, for what it's worth.

Thanks, Ren. :blush: I did have in my notes that the end of "Follow Me" reminded me a bit of U2, but I didn't feel like I knew enough about U2 to actually say that. (Especially since I don't really like them all that much. Bono's voice bothers me.)

No disrespect to you, Daniel, but this is one of the most ridiculous things I think I've read on this forum.

I don't understand the point of making comparisons to tracks that just happen to be in the same order of an album. The songs can't help what order they're in, and song order in itself is an issue that can be considered when talking about which album is better.

...OK yeah, I caved. This thread was killing me. I was too curious. I've listened to T2L twice now, and it's time for me to share my first impressions. I'm going to use Michael's review as a reference point. (I hope you don't mind.) To be courteous to people who haven't listened to it yet, I'll spoiler it. If you don't want to know, DON'T LOOK. Disclaimer: This is solely based on my opinion. It's not that big of a deal if you don't agree with what I'm saying. Also, this is subject to change, seeing as I haven't gotten a proper amount of listens in yet. So yeah. It's all there. Hopefully, someone reads this so I didn't type this up for nothing.

OH GOD. :lol:

I don't think she is that way. I'm not, either, and I still dislike the song. EDIT: Well...repetitiveness sometimes gets on my nerves. I think it depends on how it's utilized. At any rate, it's not the only reason I dislike the song.

Mine was most definitely "Clocks." It was on the radio a lot back in the day.

I still haven't read this yet. :bigcry: OMG, I need to read this. I saw the HBO miniseries not too long ago. SO GOOD. :heart:

OMG, I found a story about a three-way with Matt, Dom, and Adam Levine. BRB, dying. ETA: That moment when you decide to read for shiggles and come across this. WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN

Oh. My. Gosh. That fan fic. Ridiculous.

^ I feel so sorry for you. I have a hard enough time dealing with typical fan fiction, much less slash fiction. Here, Christina, have a hug. :hug: