Josh if you want a good scientific read, buy the book "Darwinism under the microscope". My dad met one of the authors of this book who actually operated on his eye last year for free.

 

Amazon.com: Darwinism Under the Microscope: How Recent Scientific Evidence Points to Divine Design (9780884199250): James P. Gills, Tom Woodward: Books

 

Also mathematically Evolutions is almost impossible.

 

 

 

http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm399463.html

 

Oh yea I've heard the argument that evolution (without God) takes more faith than just pure faith in God, and yea I agree with it. Don't have time to read a book right now but I'll definitely read the article.

Josh if you want a good scientific read, buy the book "Darwinism under the microscope". My dad met one of the authors of this book who actually operated on his eye last year for free.

 

Amazon.com: Darwinism Under the Microscope: How Recent Scientific Evidence Points to Divine Design (9780884199250): James P. Gills, Tom Woodward: Books

 

Also mathematically Evolutions is almost impossible.

 

 

 

http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm399463.html

Thanks for that.

 

All non-religious people should strive to be more like you.

Indeed.

 

I :heart: this thread.

You should! You made it all break loose again! :P

I'm sorry but critiquing the Origin of Species of course you are going to find things that are incorrect, evolutionary theory has evolved itself since then, to suggest that scientists are leaning towards creationism is absolutely ludicrous.

http://www.intelldesign.com/2009/06/23/signature-in-the-cell/

 

Skip to about 5 minutes in the video, the first few minutes are nothing.

I'm sorry but critiquing the Origin of Species of course you are going to find things that are incorrect, evolutionary theory has evolved itself since then, to suggest that scientists are leaning towards creationism is absolutely ludicrous.

 

Science has come far since then, and much of it shows evolution is false. Study after study is proving its more and more unlikely.

 

The modern thoughts on evolution are being disproved by simple scientific research. I think its silly when people try to argue religion to fight evolution when we can simply argue science and modern research, fight evolution with science.

 

Evolution shouldn't be a religious battle, its simply bad science and should be taken on by science and research. People need to listen to the science.

Which studies? O.o

Which studies are these mate? I see nothing but extensive evidence for evolution, I have to wonder if you fully understand what the evolution theory is, because if you have a bad idea of it in your head then no wonder you find it so hard to believe. I really can't recommend enough Richard Dawkins' books, he's such a brilliant writer, he makes evolution the beautiful thing it is.

Which studies are these mate? I see nothing but extensive evidence for evolution, I have to wonder if you fully understand what the evolution theory is, because if you have a bad idea of it in your head then no wonder you find it so hard to believe. I really can't recommend enough Richard Dawkins' books, he's such a brilliant writer, he makes evolution the beautiful thing it is.

 

Read the book "Darwinism under a microscope" it uses science to disprove evolution. There are a lot of books by scientist who did research and then published books debunking modern evolution.

 

Also look at my post how evolution is mathematically impossible. Genetics has proven evolution false.

 

Mos the stuff I've read is from books not internet articles. So its going to take a little bit of time to research the stuff I've read on the internet so I can post a source.

 

Also my dad is the perfect person to talk to about this, he spent hours talking to the author of the book who talked to him about all kinds of medical proof against evolution. So give me a little bit and I'll find some stuff.

I could write a book of "proof" that 9/11 was faked, doesn't mean it was faked. Some Author I've never heard of writing a book I've never heard of using sources I've not seen. I'm sure you can understand why I am quick to shoot it down as nonsense? I still think it's a misunderstanding of the theory that is the problem, but I will read that book.

I could write a book of "proof" that 9/11 was faked, doesn't mean it was faked. Some Author I've never heard of writing a book I've never heard of using sources I've not seen. I'm sure you can understand why I am quick to shoot it down as nonsense? I still think it's a misunderstanding of the theory that is the problem, but I will read that book.

 

I understand and you should be skeptical of everything until you see proof.

 

It has to come down to science. Scientist doing research and so far most the research by scientist and mathematicians haven't shown any evidence supporting it except wild theories not backed by research while the anti-evolutionist have backed their theory more with research and evidence.

 

Anything is possible and people must keep an open mind, thats why in my view right now its false due to science. But I know Christians who believe God created evolution, its not a religious debate for me but an intellectual debate. I'm willing to respect anyone who can put up some facts backed by research to prove or disprove their belief.

 

I like facts and/or theories backed by something and right now evolution has nothing to back it except people who seem to want to believe just because they don't want to believe in religion.

 

The books I've seen have done a well by showing research and facts but on the internet right now all I seem to find are religious sites quoting the bible instead of scientific research, so this is going to take a while.

Thing is, there will never be a balanced argument in any of these books, they all want to prove a point so they are all biased and will ignore facts in favour of what they want to represent

Thing is, there will never be a balanced argument in any of these books, they all want to prove a point so they are all biased and will ignore facts in favour of what they want to represent

 

With some people yes but there were people who once believed or weren't sure and looked for scientific evidence to find what is correct. There was one book I read many years ago about a biologist who believed in evolution, but he was looking at some medical text books and saw some things that didn't make sense, so he did a long study of evolution and after researching it in depth he came out against it.

 

You raise a valid question, you have to look at both sides to get all the facts. Because the pro-evolutionist are going to be the same way, one sided and trying to prove just their point. So its up to people to look at both sides and the facts and make up their mind. However I fear most people have personal reason for believing one way or the other not scientific, be it religious or anti-religious or following a trend or a person who wants to be different.

 

I want evolution to be true, I think it would be awesome.

a false dichotomy. All I feel like saying, I've exhausted this argument in other mediums.

Which studies are these mate? I see nothing but extensive evidence for evolution, I have to wonder if you fully understand what the evolution theory is, because if you have a bad idea of it in your head then no wonder you find it so hard to believe. I really can't recommend enough Richard Dawkins' books, he's such a brilliant writer, he makes evolution the beautiful thing it is.

 

Dawkins is a deluded FUCK for deluded FUCKS like yourself who find it okay to slag religious people off. I ain't religious but I don't go reading shit stirring books from Dawkins and make wet soggy statements like yourself saying how he makes "evolution the beautiful thing it is". Ugh!

^Rofl

Dawkins is a deluded FUCK for deluded FUCKS like yourself who find it okay to slag religious people off. I ain't religious but I don't go reading shit stirring books from Dawkins and make wet soggy statements like yourself saying how he makes "evolution the beautiful thing it is". Ugh!

 

Clearly you are such a fucking inbred cunt you are only aware of "The God Delusion" which is actually his worst book.

Clearly you are such a fucking inbred cunt you are only aware of "The God Delusion" which is actually his worst book.

 

Quite frankly my friend recognising "inbred cunts" for only knowing one of Dawkins's books doesn't show me that you have a grasp on evolution.

Yeah great logic there :/

:dance:

Yeah great logic there :/

 

You're obviously a very open minded person but on this occasion your brains have fallen out.

I did just have a big sneeze

I've always wondered why god killed dinosaurs; I mean, they did not eat an apple as well, did they?

it was probably the brontosaurus

They were just Asteroids.

or esteroids? Maybe that's why ther were too big