(CBS) As opposite as George Bush and John Kerry may seem to be, they do share a common secret - one they've shared for decades, and one they will not share with the electorate.

 

The secret: details of their membership in Skull and Bones, the elite Yale University society whose members include some of the most powerful men of the 20th century.

 

Bonesmen, as they're called, are forbidden to reveal what goes on in their inner sanctum, the windowless building on the Yale campus that is called the Tomb.

 

When 60 Minutes first reported on Skull & Bones last October, conspiracy experts who see Skull and Bones behind just about everything that goes wrong, and even right, in the world, were relishing the unthinkable - the possibility of two Bonesman fighting it out for the presidency.

 

Over the years, Bones has included presidents, cabinet officers, spies, Supreme Court justices, captains of industry, and often their sons and lately their daughters, a social and political network like no other.

 

Mr. Bush, like his father and grandfather before him, has refused to talk openly about Skull and Bones. But as a Bonesman, he was required to reveal his innermost secrets to his fellow Bones initiates.

 

“They're supposed to recount their entire sexual histories in sort of a dim, a dimly-lit cozy room. The other 14 members are sitting on plush couches, and the lights are dimmed,” says Robbins. “And there's a fire roaring. And the, this activity is supposed to last anywhere from between one to three hours.”

 

One can't help but make certain comparisons with the mafia, for example. Secret society, bonding, stakes may be a little higher in one than the other. But everybody knows everything about everybody, which is a form of protection.

 

“I think Skull and Bones has had slightly more success than the mafia in the sense that the leaders of the five families are all doing 100 years in jail, and the leaders of the Skull and Bones families are doing four and eight years in the White House,” says Rosenbaum.

 

Bones is not restricted to the Republican Party. Yet another Bonesman has his eye on the Oval Office: Senator John Kerry, Democrat, Skull & Bones 1966.

 

Skull and Bones narrowly endorsed admitting women,” says Robbins. “The day before these women were supposed to be initiated, a group of Bonesmen, including William F. Buckley, obtained a court order to block the initiation claiming that letting women into the tomb would lead to date rape. Again more legal wrangling; finally it came down to another vote and women were admitted and initiated.”

 

But Skull & Bones now has women, and it’s become more multicultural.

 

“It has gays who got the SAT scores, it's got the gays who got the straight A's,” says Brooks. “It's got the blacks who are the president of the right associations. It's different criteria. More multicultural, but it's still an elite, selective institution.”

 

 

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http://www.infowars.com/articles/occult/bg_reinfiltration.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm

http://www.bilderberg.org/skulbone.htm

http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

for trying to help and free a country...no. you can try to do good and cause more problems. he tried and failed.

 

 

why hasn't he tried to liberate Cuba????

why hasn't he tried to liberate Cuba????

 

because just because you try to do one good thing doesnt mean you try to do everything. give food to a hobo. why dont you give food to all hobos??? cubans arent suffering as much as iraqi's were and cuba was not a threat.

(CBS) As opposite as George Bush and John Kerry may seem to be, they do share a common secret - one they've shared for decades, and one they will not share with the electorate.

 

The secret: details of their membership in Skull and Bones, the elite Yale University society whose members include some of the most powerful men of the 20th century.

 

Bonesmen, as they're called, are forbidden to reveal what goes on in their inner sanctum, the windowless building on the Yale campus that is called the Tomb.

 

When 60 Minutes first reported on Skull & Bones last October, conspiracy experts who see Skull and Bones behind just about everything that goes wrong, and even right, in the world, were relishing the unthinkable - the possibility of two Bonesman fighting it out for the presidency.

 

Over the years, Bones has included presidents, cabinet officers, spies, Supreme Court justices, captains of industry, and often their sons and lately their daughters, a social and political network like no other.

 

Mr. Bush, like his father and grandfather before him, has refused to talk openly about Skull and Bones. But as a Bonesman, he was required to reveal his innermost secrets to his fellow Bones initiates.

 

“They're supposed to recount their entire sexual histories in sort of a dim, a dimly-lit cozy room. The other 14 members are sitting on plush couches, and the lights are dimmed,” says Robbins. “And there's a fire roaring. And the, this activity is supposed to last anywhere from between one to three hours.”

 

One can't help but make certain comparisons with the mafia, for example. Secret society, bonding, stakes may be a little higher in one than the other. But everybody knows everything about everybody, which is a form of protection.

 

“I think Skull and Bones has had slightly more success than the mafia in the sense that the leaders of the five families are all doing 100 years in jail, and the leaders of the Skull and Bones families are doing four and eight years in the White House,” says Rosenbaum.

 

Bones is not restricted to the Republican Party. Yet another Bonesman has his eye on the Oval Office: Senator John Kerry, Democrat, Skull & Bones 1966.

 

Skull and Bones narrowly endorsed admitting women,” says Robbins. “The day before these women were supposed to be initiated, a group of Bonesmen, including William F. Buckley, obtained a court order to block the initiation claiming that letting women into the tomb would lead to date rape. Again more legal wrangling; finally it came down to another vote and women were admitted and initiated.”

 

But Skull & Bones now has women, and it’s become more multicultural.

 

“It has gays who got the SAT scores, it's got the gays who got the straight A's,” says Brooks. “It's got the blacks who are the president of the right associations. It's different criteria. More multicultural, but it's still an elite, selective institution.”

 

 

EDIT -

http://www.infowars.com/articles/occult/bg_reinfiltration.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm

http://www.bilderberg.org/skulbone.htm

http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

 

i saw a movie about the skulls secret society. called the skulls. it was good.

because just because you try to do one good thing doesnt mean you try to do everything. give food to a hobo. why dont you give food to all hobos??? cubans arent suffering as much as iraqi's were and cuba was not a threat.

 

 

you said it right there..... 'a threat'.... why do we have to be the ones always in control???? why do we have to be the ones solving everyone's so called problems?? who made us the all mighty?? "Cubans aren't suffering as much as Iraqi's"????? where the hell have you been??? I suppose the simple fact that hundreds upon hundreds of Cuban refugees flee Cuba on rubber tires and rinky dink rafts everyday in shark infested waters means nothing.. they must be risking their lives for the fun of it...... there has to be a great deal of suffering in a country for people to leave their native land for a place that's suppose to provide a better way of life... right?

you said it right there..... 'a threat'.... why do we have to be the ones always in control???? why do we have to be the ones solving everyone's so called problems?? who made us the all mighty?? "Cubans aren't suffering as much as Iraqi's"????? where the hell have you been??? I suppose the simple fact that hundreds upon hundreds of Cuban refugees flee Cuba on rubber tires and rinky dink rafts everyday in shark infested waters means nothing.. they must be risking their lives for the fun of it...... there has to be a great deal of suffering in a country for people to leave their native land for a place that's suppose to provide a better way of life... right?

 

because if were not in control someone else will be....someone who will cause more damage. and our goverment has a right and A duty to be in control, a duty to its citizens. a duty also to protect us/them from ANY threat. someones gonna be in charge and call the shots might as well be us. we dont solve everyones problems...we dont even solve or try to solve a fraction of the worlds problems. never have never will. cubans suffer but not nearly as much as iraqi's did. saddam killed and tortured FAR more iraqi's then castro did or will. for the most part people in cuba were safer then iraqi's. if iraq was 90 miles south of america iraqi's would be in crappy rafts trying to get to america.

 

where the hell have i been? in florida, talking with my cuban friends. my good friend is cuban his family came here from cuba, i know about whats going on in cuba and the situation was FAR worse in iraq under saddam then castro's cuba.

clearly you don't.....

 

Castro hasn't killed nearly as many Iraqi's??? How do YOU know??? What gives us the right to govern over any other country???? Thats my question...... why do you think the world views the US as bullies??? Protecting our country is one thing..... telling others how they should govern theirs is another...

Yes. AND.....we all know fine well that going into Iraq wasn't about saving the Iraqi people..it was about taking control of their natural resources and to attempt to organise a phony group of leaders - AND - Civilian deaths in Iraq could be as high as 10,000.

That's disgraceful.

 

THE MYTH OF LIBERATION

 

However, This is all off topic:)

Yes. AND.....we all know fine well that going into Iraq wasn't about saving the Iraqi people..it was about taking control of their natural resources and to attempt to organise a phony group of leaders - AND - Civilian deaths in Iraq could be as high as 10' date='000.[/url']

Only 10,000 - look here, possibly up to four times that amount http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

Only 10' date='000 - look here, possibly up to four times that amount http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

 

Well...........god......Ahh........that's even more pointless deaths.

And we have these guys telling us it was a good idea and that it was for the good of the Iraqi people??? What the hell is the governments definition of liberation = Kill, destroy, steal and conquer?

 

Well done Blair, well done Bush (any all their cronies)...well done. :veryangry:

you said it right there..... 'a threat'.... why do we have to be the ones always in control???? why do we have to be the ones solving everyone's so called problems?? who made us the all mighty?? "Cubans aren't suffering as much as Iraqi's"????? where the hell have you been??? I suppose the simple fact that hundreds upon hundreds of Cuban refugees flee Cuba on rubber tires and rinky dink rafts everyday in shark infested waters means nothing.. they must be risking their lives for the fun of it...... there has to be a great deal of suffering in a country for people to leave their native land for a place that's suppose to provide a better way of life... right?

 

So I just found this thread and think its pretty sweet...

 

First of all, we are NOT always the ones in control...look at WWII, we were isolationists. Hitler felt he had the responsibilty to take control...of the world. And we all know how well that good ol' war turned out...millions dead.

 

God made us the reigning nation of today's society, guess why? Because believe it or not, our country is based on the Christian religion. What other nation has a democracy like ours??? Oh yeah, NONE.

 

Castro is an old bastard, but Hussein definitely has killed more of his own people. And I wonder who the civilian deaths are caused by, oh yeah, the terrorists. I don't believe for a second that our soldiers took one innocent life over there.

So mrcool011...I'm on your side on this one.

:whatever:

 

 

God made us in charge??? what kind of ideology is that??? lol and I'm Catholic :laugh3:

. And I wonder who the civilian deaths are caused by' date=' oh yeah, the terrorists. I don't believe for a second that our soldiers took one innocent life over there.[/quote']

 

Not even one? did you go to that website I posted? the body count is taken from media releases. . those sources include the US Army! BTW UN bodies, human rights monitors and European Commission use this website too.

 

Neat fact for the day.

 

Children in Iraq are disproportionately affected by all explosive devices, but most severly by AIR STRIKES and UNEXPLODED ORDNANCE.

(http://www.iraqbodycount.net/onibc/onibc8.php)

 

Yup, those dirty terriorists and their aircraft, smart bombs, cluster bombs...........

God made us the reigning nation of today's society, guess why? Because believe it or not, our country is based on the Christian religion. What other nation has a democracy like ours??? Oh yeah, NONE.

 

 

What?

What shit.

 

Your county is on the road to something only hilter could have dreamt of.

 

AND Bush doesn't even believe in God.....none of them do.

 

To believe in the second coming of christ (as all true christians do :S ) is now cosidered to be a terrorist offence. And all the big guys passed that one...so don't even bring religion into why your country is SO great.

What?

What shit.

 

Your county is on the road to something only hilter could have dreamt of.

 

AND Bush doesn't even believe in God.....none of them do.

 

To believe in the second coming of christ (as all true christians do :S ) is now cosidered to be a terrorist offence. And all the big guys passed that one...so don't even bring religion into why your country is SO great.

 

Woah...didn't mean to sound so for the "America-for-world-domination." I'm just sayin we based our country off of Christian beliefs..although we may not follow them anymore, they are still there. Idk if you know what a Deconstructionist is...but it is a person who trys to prove the rationality of something completely contradictory...but I read where a group of these Deconstructionists took the Constitution and declared it completely contradictory, and therefore meaningless and stupid. Our country is flawed, nonetheless, and in no way better than any other nation in this world. I'm just trying to defend my President here, because I think going to war was indeed the right thing to do. It's stupid to say the world doesn't need war blah blah blah...when in reality it's going to happen. I'm not saying war is good, hell that's what the UN is supposedly for. I just don't see why we pay 80% of the bills in the UN and other countries think of us as the scumbag of the world for not helping them specifically. And after WWII...we spent billions upon billions in the Marshall Plan and Truman doctrine. We are here to help, whether you believe it or not.

Ok, Ok...sorry.

 

Just one question....

 

Why do you think it was a good idea for the war against Iraq?

clearly you don't.....

 

Castro hasn't killed nearly as many Iraqi's??? How do YOU know??? What gives us the right to govern over any other country???? Thats my question...... why do you think the world views the US as bullies??? Protecting our country is one thing..... telling others how they should govern theirs is another...

 

what gives us the right not to?

Ok, Ok...sorry.

 

Just one question....

 

Why do you think it was a good idea for the war against Iraq?

 

saddam supported terrorist, in idea that sounded good in theory was to stop terrorism by going after nations that supported terrorism or incouraged it such as iraq and afghanistan. plus saddam killed tens of thousands of iraqi's and starved 60,000 a year not to mention he didnt have WMD;s BUT. its been proven he was planning on getting them in the next few years. in theory it was a good idea but the sad fact is in reality it wont work out what bush had planned. thats too bad it would have done the world alot of good.

:whatever:

 

 

God made us in charge??? what kind of ideology is that??? lol and I'm Catholic :laugh3:

 

because its how the world works, the strong have a say in the weaks life. its how its worked since the first humans and will continue to the end. atleast with america for the most part we do good in teh world instead of nations like the soviet union who while they were very powerful did NOTHING but kill and destroy and cause problems.

What?

What shit.

 

Your county is on the road to something only hilter could have dreamt of.

 

AND Bush doesn't even believe in God.....none of them do.

 

To believe in the second coming of christ (as all true christians do :S ) is now cosidered to be a terrorist offence. And all the big guys passed that one...so don't even bring religion into why your country is SO great.

'

 

Bushy boy does. how can you say he doesnt believe in god? you dont know shit.

you dont even know what you're talking about now. you cannot say someone doesnt beleive in god unless they were to say that. how ignorant.

I know more than you can dream of my friend.

George W Bush isn't a believer in Christ. He takes part in rituals and worships the Canaanite deitie 'molech'.

Please learn about this stuff before you attempt to talk about it. There's so many high standing people go and take part in this stuff every July at Bohemian Grove

 

Oh, you guys are all screwed, big style.

 

When doing research into the new world order, you will repeatedly come across information that the 'Brotherhood' pulling the strings has a serious loyalty to all that is evil (by definition). This is symbolised again and again by the Illuminati and in this section you will see just one small part of this.

 

One of the ancient and now well researched Canaanite deities that was and still is worshipped by the 'Brotherhood' is often symbolised as an owl and is referred to as Molech (sometimes Moloch).

 

A great video was released a few years ago, by Alex Jones called 'Dark Secrets - Inside Bohemian Grove'. Basically every summer, the 'fatcats' of the world gather together for a social outing into a redwood forest in southern California, sealed off to the general public for a summer camp once dubbed as 'the greatest men's party on Earth'. (That's right, no women allowed beyond the carpark!).

 

In July 2000 Alex Jones and his team managed to successfully organise a break-in into the festival and capture some disturbing hidden camera footage of one of the ceremonies.

 

The ceremony that was recorded was entitled 'The Cremation of Care' in which a mock human sacrifice is performed in front of a forty-foot stone owl, for the entertainment of the cheering crowd of elitists. These include media company owners, politicians, Hollywood personalities, world leaders, oil company owners, and so on.

 

HERE ARE SOME REFERENCES IN LITERATURE: -

Molech/Moloch references from the Christian Bible

 

Leviticus

 

18:21 You must not give any of your children as an offering to Molech, 29 so that you do not profane 30 the name of your God. I am the Lord!

 

20:1 The Lord spoke to Moses: 20:2 “You are to say to the Israelites, ‘Any man from the Israelites or from the foreigners who reside in Israel who gives any of his children to Molech must be put to death; the people of the land must pelt him with stones. 20:3 I myself will set my face against that man and cut him off from the midst of his people, because he has given some of his children to Molech and thereby defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name. 20:4 If, however, the people of the land shut their eyes to that man when he gives some of his children to Molech so that they do not put him to death, 20:5 I myself will set my face against that man and his clan. I will cut off from the midst of their people both him and all who follow after him in prostitution, to commit prostitution by going after Molech.

 

Kings

 

23:10 The king ruined Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom so that no one could pass his son or his daughter through the fire to Molech

 

Jeremiah

 

32:35 And they built the high places of Baal, which [are] in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through [the fire] unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

 

Molech/Moloch references from the 'The English Dictionary' (http://www.yourdictionary.com/)

 

1, In the Bible, the god of the Canaanites and Phoenicians to whom children were sacrificed.

2, Something possessing the power to exact severe sacrifice.

 

Moloch reference from The Continuum Encyclopedia of Symbols (2000 Edition) - Book by Udo Becker

 

"Originally a Canaanite god to whom human sacrifices were offered. Later, he was a general symbol of authorities that corrupt or destroy humans, especially inhuman political systems"

I know more than you can dream of my friend.

George W Bush isn't a believer in Christ. He takes part in rituals and worships the canaanite diddy moleck.

Please learn about this stuff before you attempt to talk about it.

 

 

Oh, you guys are all screwed, big style.

 

 

hahahahahahahahsahahahahahahaahhahahahahaha wow...now you've just proved how sadly insane you are. you cannot tell me who a person worships. as i cannot say who you worship. that is between bush and god. not you or anyboyd else. you have no knowledge of his spirituality. you by far are the funniest and most ignorant person i know. so since you know all about who people worship, who do i worship? what about camille? what about my parents? you cannot say he is not christian simple because you dont wanna beleive it. in YOUR personal opinion you may not think he is a true christians, thats YOUR opinion but you havent a right or clue so say he is not. you cannot be taken seriously. you cannot say who one believe in or worships, only that person can.

 

this is another reason why people dont and most will never take conspiracy theorist seriously, because of how what they say..hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha its like taking the word of a mentaly retarted hobo...btw cheney worships Ra and rummy worships Anubis...hahaha. oh and blair well we all know he whorships Zuess....

If you knew me....you really wouldn't think like that.

Of course it's all radiculous....it's all absolutely insane...it's unbelievable isn't it?? That's why you think I'm an idoit.

 

You haven't read about it anyway.

 

READ ABOUT IT YOU COMPLETE FOOL

 

I'm not the one who goes there and does these things.

I know more than you can dream of my friend.

George W Bush isn't a believer in Christ. He takes part in rituals and worships the Canaanite deitie 'molech'.

Please learn about this stuff before you attempt to talk about it. There's so many high standing people go and take part in this stuff every July at Bohemian Grove

 

Oh, you guys are all screwed, big style.

 

When doing research into the new world order, you will repeatedly come across information that the 'Brotherhood' pulling the strings has a serious loyalty to all that is evil (by definition). This is symbolised again and again by the Illuminati and in this section you will see just one small part of this.

 

One of the ancient and now well researched Canaanite deities that was and still is worshipped by the 'Brotherhood' is often symbolised as an owl and is referred to as Molech (sometimes Moloch).

 

A great video was released a few years ago, by Alex Jones called 'Dark Secrets - Inside Bohemian Grove'. Basically every summer, the 'fatcats' of the world gather together for a social outing into a redwood forest in southern California, sealed off to the general public for a summer camp once dubbed as 'the greatest men's party on Earth'. (That's right, no women allowed beyond the carpark!).

 

In July 2000 Alex Jones and his team managed to successfully organise a break-in into the festival and capture some disturbing hidden camera footage of one of the ceremonies.

 

The ceremony that was recorded was entitled 'The Cremation of Care' in which a mock human sacrifice is performed in front of a forty-foot stone owl, for the entertainment of the cheering crowd of elitists. These include media company owners, politicians, Hollywood personalities, world leaders, oil company owners, and so on.

 

HERE ARE SOME REFERENCES IN LITERATURE: -

Molech/Moloch references from the Christian Bible

 

Leviticus

 

18:21 You must not give any of your children as an offering to Molech, 29 so that you do not profane 30 the name of your God. I am the Lord!

 

20:1 The Lord spoke to Moses: 20:2 “You are to say to the Israelites, ‘Any man from the Israelites or from the foreigners who reside in Israel who gives any of his children to Molech must be put to death; the people of the land must pelt him with stones. 20:3 I myself will set my face against that man and cut him off from the midst of his people, because he has given some of his children to Molech and thereby defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name. 20:4 If, however, the people of the land shut their eyes to that man when he gives some of his children to Molech so that they do not put him to death, 20:5 I myself will set my face against that man and his clan. I will cut off from the midst of their people both him and all who follow after him in prostitution, to commit prostitution by going after Molech.

 

Kings

 

23:10 The king ruined Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom so that no one could pass his son or his daughter through the fire to Molech

 

Jeremiah

 

32:35 And they built the high places of Baal, which [are] in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through [the fire] unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

 

Molech/Moloch references from the 'The English Dictionary' (http://www.yourdictionary.com/)

 

1, In the Bible, the god of the Canaanites and Phoenicians to whom children were sacrificed.

2, Something possessing the power to exact severe sacrifice.

 

Moloch reference from The Continuum Encyclopedia of Symbols (2000 Edition) - Book by Udo Becker

 

"Originally a Canaanite god to whom human sacrifices were offered. Later, he was a general symbol of authorities that corrupt or destroy humans, especially inhuman political systems"

 

 

even IF thats true. doesnt mean bush was there. and simple because one was there DOES NOT mean they believe or worship. my jewish friend used to go to my youthgroup at church, but he didnt believe in jesus....but he went and listened to the lessons and watched us take communion. just because he was there didnt mean he believed. again your conspiracy theories uses far out wishful thining with little facts or reason...how usual.