9/11 - The Inside Job **NEW INFO & UPDATES WHEN THEY HAPPEN**

[GazeboflossUK]

About the Pentagon - I already have said that maybe a plane did hit the building but the with holding of information is possibly on purpose. It's in another post I wrote.

 

Hey, all your posts don't mention why infact the towers fell like a controlled demolition?

Why bombs went off at the base of the towers well before the collapse?

Why you can see blast points as the towers fell?

Why molten steel was found in the basement?

Why steel from the site has been found to have the residual properties of a Thermate reaction, which is used to cut steel like butter?

Why the steel was dragged away and sold to China as scrap even before any investigation had started?

Why bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the building in the weeks leading up to 9/11?

Why building 7 was destroyed by controlled demolition?

Why the twin towers fell at free-fall speeds? (every floor that collapsed should have caused resistance)

 

You don't really need to post your stuff.........it's the all in the 'official' report.....which is proven to be misleading.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

About the Pentagon - I already have said that maybe a plane did hit the building but the with holding of information is possibly on purpose. It's in another post I wrote.

 

Hey, all your posts don't mention why infact the towers fell like a controlled demolition?

Why bombs went off at the base of the towers well before the collapse?

Why you can see blast points as the towers fell?

Why molten steel was found in the basement?

Why steel from the site has been found to have the residual properties of a Thermate reaction, which is used to cut steel like butter?

Why the steel was dragged away and sold to China as scrap even before any investigation had started?

Why bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the building in the weeks leading up to 9/11?

Why building 7 was destroyed by controlled demolition?

Why the twin towers fell at free-fall speeds? (every floor that collapsed should have caused resistance)

 

You don't really need to post your stuff.........it's the all in the 'official' report.....which is proven to be misleading.

 

 

sorry dude, but all the correct theories about 911 have been proven by experts. you have nothing on your side. ill give you marks for trying.

[GazeboflossUK]

:laugh1:

 

I actually don't need to sit here and argue with YOU.

 

In my daily life I change the opinion of more and more people every day.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

:laugh1:

 

I actually don't need to sit here and argue with YOU.

 

In my daily life I change the opinion of more and more people every day.

 

since when are cats called people? hahahaha. you can make a few far lefties believe this anti bush bullshit, but the majority of people laugh at this SHITE (hey im cool and europea now)

[GazeboflossUK]

since when are cats called people? hahahaha. you can make a few far lefties believe this anti bush bullshit' date=' but the majority of people laugh at this SHITE (hey im cool and europea now)[/quote']

 

What?

 

Stop it.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

Ok ok im sorry. for real, im going to be mature and no personal insults.

[TraceOddity]

Oh, my my my my....

 

What have I wandered in to here???

 

There is one part of the '9/11 Conspiracy theory' that CANNOT be dispputed: We all remember the footage of a brave George W. Bush finding out about the WTC attacks in the middle of reading to Texas schoolchildren. Somehow, he soldiered on and finished his story before handling the matter...Except that it didn't happen that way. ABC News interviewed him on the way into the classroom about the first tower. He pretty much said he'd have to cross that bridge when he came to it!

 

And the Oscar goes to???

[Matter-Eater Lad]

Oh, my my my my....

 

What have I wandered in to here???

 

There is one part of the '9/11 Conspiracy theory' that CANNOT be dispputed: We all remember the footage of a brave George W. Bush finding out about the WTC attacks in the middle of reading to Texas schoolchildren. Somehow, he soldiered on and finished his story before handling the matter...Except that it didn't happen that way. ABC News interviewed him on the way into the classroom about the first tower. He pretty much said he'd have to cross that bridge when he came to it!

 

And the Oscar goes to???

 

No one...because that doesnt prove shit. really it doesnt mean anything. no wait, im wrong. it proves he was the mastermind of all the attacks. that evidence right there proves it all. btw got a link for this?

[GazeboflossUK]

Oh, my my my my....

 

What have I wandered in to here???

 

There is one part of the '9/11 Conspiracy theory' that CANNOT be dispputed: We all remember the footage of a brave George W. Bush finding out about the WTC attacks in the middle of reading to Texas schoolchildren. Somehow, he soldiered on and finished his story before handling the matter...Except that it didn't happen that way. ABC News interviewed him on the way into the classroom about the first tower. He pretty much said he'd have to cross that bridge when he came to it!

 

And the Oscar goes to???

 

Well, sorry to slightly correct this......a bit :)

 

But infact he was told about the second WTC plane crash while in the classroom.

Chief of Staff, Andrew Card came in and said "America is under attack" to Bush.

 

The thing is, he knew about the first crash before he went into the classroom......what really should have happened when he was told about the second crash was to get the president out of there.....out of the way of all those children.....how did they know that Bush was safe there?

 

So here's the lie....

 

He also has said that he saw the first WTC plane hit on TV before he went into the classroom......how?? The first ever footage of it wasn't released until after the 2nd tower crash.

 

Look, I'll quote....

 

 

Town Hall Meeting [CNN, Aired December 4, 2001]

 

"Well, Jorden, you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I used to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."

 

George Walker Bush

 

 

 

and again.....

 

Town Hall Forum on Economy in California [whitehouse.gov, January 5, 2002]

 

"I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on..."

 

George Walker Bush

 

 

 

So again..the problem is - there was no live video coverage of the first plane hitting the tower. There couldn't be. Video of the first plane hitting the tower did not surface until AFTER the second plane had hit.

 

It also would be foolish for Bush to assume that a passenger jet aircraft hitting the WTC in clear weather was pilot error, especially since warnings had surfaced of hijacked commercial aircraft attacking symbols of American power and culture.

 

If Bush really did see an the first plane on TV hitting the World Trade Center then he saw that the aircraft was under control at the time, and he saw it before arriving at Booker Elementary because he was en route to the school when the first plane struck WTC 1 - a closed-circuit live feed to his limo is the only way he could have seen this impact on TV.

 

'......It must also be remembered that even after Andrew Card informed Bush of the second WTC impact, by his own admission Bush knew America was being 'attacked', but he continued listening to the reading skills of a classroom full of children.

 

Just think about that for a while.'

[brandon313]

i think all of this is kind of beside the fact, we knwo that htey used the attacks as the pretext for illegal wars, but that doesnt prove that osama bin laden and the taliban did not hijack the flights and do it. There are conspiracy theories about every major occurrance since....who knows the beginning of government!!

[GazeboflossUK]

i think all of this is kind of beside the fact' date=' we knwo that htey used the attacks as the pretext for illegal wars, but that doesnt prove that osama bin laden and the taliban did not hijack the flights and do it. There are conspiracy theories about every major occurrance since....who knows the beginning of government!![/quote']

 

But when we talk about Osama Bin Laden we are talking about someone who is a known CIA asset......he's the fall guy for this operation...as well as many other operations.

Also, the fact that at least 9 of the of the 19 'supposed' hijackers have been found to be alive, US government officials admit there isn't any 'proof' to support the 'hijacker's' identities.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

But when we talk about Osama Bin Laden we are talking about someone who is a known CIA asset......he's the fall guy for this operation...as well as many other operations.

Also, the fact that at least 9 of the of the 19 'supposed' hijackers have been found to be alive, US government officials admit there isn't any 'proof' to support the 'hijacker's' identities.

 

yeap, and hitler was too.

[Black Rose]

You know 9/11 will always be unanswered like the Moon landings.

 

I think the Mood Landings were faked

[TraceOddity]

The link was on http://www.tenc.com for a few years. Also, if it's still there you might try www.theemperorscloths.com. I haven't seen it for a while, but just because I can't give you hardcopy doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[alyssa]

Hm... I was just thinking about info that's been withheld 'n stuff...

 

I read an article in the LA Times a few weeks ago called "When do we publish a secret?"

 

SINCE SEPT. 11, 2001, newspaper editors have faced excruciating choices in covering the government's efforts to protect the country from terrorist agents. Each of us has, on a number of occasions, withheld information because we were convinced that publishing it could put lives at risk. On other occasions, each of us has decided to publish classified information over strong objections from our government.

 

What information is being withheld that could put lives at risk 'n such? Or are they holding something back that would put their lives at risk? :stunned:

 

Journalists don't "accidentally misquote" people. They check, recheck, triple check their sources. Obviously they're hiding something--for our good, or because they're being repressed by the government? Even though they have the freedom to publish the truth--could they have been threatened?

 

As that sliver of judicial history reminds us, the conflict between the government's passion for secrecy and the press' drive to reveal is not of recent origin. This did not begin with the Bush administration, although the polarization of the electorate and the daunting challenge of terrorism have made the tension between press and government as clamorous as at any time since Justice Black wrote.

 

Our job, especially in times like these, is to bring our readers information that will enable them to judge how well their elected leaders are fighting on their behalf, and at what price.

 

In recent years our papers have brought you a great deal of information the White House never intended for you to know — classified secrets about the questionable intelligence that led the country to war in Iraq, about the abuse of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan, about the transfer of suspects to countries that are not squeamish about using torture, about eavesdropping without warrants.

[GazeboflossUK]

Well, just take into consideration that the mainstream media is owned by the same people who help fund the Government (Republican and Democrat)

[alyssa]

Well' date=' just take into consideration that the mainstream media is owned by the same people who help fund the Government (Republican and Democrat)[/quote']

Yeah. :/

 

I was just thinking that there's gotta be people that know the truth but they can't say anything about it maybe because they've been threatened with their lives, jobs, property... etc. I'd be torn. :(

[GazeboflossUK]

Yeah, I 100% agree that this is the case.......

 

Alternative news reports are far less restricted with big ex-government names now lending their support. However - this again is ignored by the corporate owned mainstream news.

[Matter-Eater Lad]

Im still gonna stick with the overwhelming evidence that supports that terrorist did it. so what is grey on this subject is did the goverment let this happen? that will always be unasnwered. just like it is with pearl harbor, i think the goverment knew about it and did nothing so it could get drawn into ww2. so its always possible the goverment knew about the terrorist attack and let it happen.

[GazeboflossUK]

Im still gonna stick with the overwhelming evidence that supports that terrorist did it.

 

Keep in mind that there is more to suggest otherwise and we will win....and I can't wait to see the day.

 

:) :) :)

 

 

Plus, you say that Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen....correct, it was. This is a well known fact.

 

So, in History...the government has knowingly killed it's own people as a pretext for war.....

 

and with 9/11 it happened all over again.....

[Matter-Eater Lad]

Keep in mind that there is more to suggest otherwise and we will win....and I can't wait to see the day.

 

:) :) :)

 

 

Plus, you say that Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen....correct, it was. This is a well known fact.

 

So, in History...the government has knowingly killed it's own people as a pretext for war.....

 

and with 9/11 it happened all over again.....

 

thats quite possible. BUT it is a fact terrorist did the attack, much like its a fact the japanese attacked pearl harbor.

[GazeboflossUK]

This is terrible.......truly....it's an attempt to get the official lies into the minds of the younger generation (which along with our generation, have a VERY good chance of getting truth out) More Arab hate in the childrens minds....

 

Comic book looks at 11 September

 

London Independent / Andrew Buncombe | July 18 2006

 

The 600-page official inquiry into the 9/11 attacks are to be compressed into a comic strip version aimed at younger readers and others who might have be put off by the small print of the densely written report.

 

Veteran comic book illustrators Sid Jacobson and Ernie Colon have used skills more used to normally associated with drawing Superman and Wonder Woman to produce an illustrated version of the deadliest ever attack on the US. The 150 page comic book includes captions such as "Whooom!" and "R-rrumble.".

 

Despite concerns that some might consider a comic strip not suitable way of presenting such a serious topic, the forthcoming publication has received the backing of the official commission's chairman, former New Jersey governor Thomas Kean.

 

"When I first heard about it, I was very concerned but when I looked at it, it was absolutely accurate," he told the Washington Post. He said that he and his vice-chairman, Lee Hamilton, wrote a foreword for the comic book, which also measures how far the commission's recommendations have so far been included.

 

Mr Kean said that although the original report had remained on the top of the best-seller lists for two years he hoped that the new version would encourage even more readers. "I didn't think we'd be a bestseller, and I didn't think we'd be turned into a comic book," he added.

 

Victims' organisations have also given their cautious backing to the project though they warn that the images and storyline will inevitably cause upset and distress for some. "Our organisation has pushed for the report to be read and for the recommendations to be put in place," said Caitlin Zampella of the survivors' group, Families of September 11 Inc. "We do want people to read it and to be aware of what was said." The report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States was published in the summer of 2004. It essentially confirmed the generally accepted narrative - that 19 hijackers were responsible for the attacks - and made numerous recommendations to try and counter such attacks in the future.

There were, however, critics of the report who said the commissioners had failed to fully address responsibility for the shortcomings or investigate some seemingly incongruous aspects of the 9/11 events, such as the collapse of 7 World Trade Centre, a 47 floor steel-frame building close to the World Trade Centre. Some experts have raised doubts as to the likelihood of this building collapsing as a result of fires started by the fall of the two towers, something that continues to fuel numerous conspiracy theories about 9/11.

 

The report also failed to properly explain why Mohammed Atta and one of the other hijackers travelled to Portland, Maine, the evening before the attacks and then caught a early morning flight to Boston's Logan airport where they boarded American Airlines Flight 11 which they subsequently seized control of and flew into the north tower.

 

Mr Colon, who for 25 years drew the "Richie Rich" and "Caspar" comic strips, said he hit upon the idea of producing the 9/11 report as a comic book when he discovered that the contents of the report were in the public domain. "I called Sid about what I had just seen in the paper," he said.

 

Mr Colon said he believed their comic book version distills many of the overlapping aspects of the official report. And he said he is convinced this form will find new readers. "There are going to be a whole bunch of kids, teenagers and adults that will not read the report," he said. "The educational system at large has resisted them because of the term 'comic book'. I like to think of them as something that has more purpose."

[GazeboflossUK]

Pentagon Papers Author Daniel Ellsberg Says Government May Have Carried Out 9/11

 

Pentagon Papers Author Daniel Ellsberg Says Government May Have Carried Out 9/11

Predicts Bush Regime Will Stage Terrorist Attack to Provide Pretext for Iran, Syria Invasion, And Justify Internment Camps for American People

 

Infowars | July 19, 2006

By Kevin Smith & Alex Jones

 

 

Daniel Ellsberg is a former American military analyst employed by the RAND Corporation who precipitated a national firestorm in 1971 when he released the Pentagon Papers, the US military's account of activities during the Vietnam War, to The New York Times. The release awakened the American people to a systematic program of organized deception carried out by the Pentagon against the population to continue the Vietnam War.

 

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

 

- Daniel Ellsberg

Author, Pentagon Papers

 

 

Daniel Ellsberg, speaking on air to GCN radio host Jack Blood, stated his concerns that criminal elements of the US government were psychologically capable to have carried out 9/11. He warned that within days after a US military strike on Iran that Bush's handlers would probably stage some type of terror attack in the West to legitimize the new war.

 

 

Ellsberg went on to state that another major Reichstag-like state-sponsored attack would be followed by a martial law scenario which might include detention camps for American dissenters.

 

Ellsberg said that he worked with individuals at the highest levels of government who staged war provocations several times to whip up pro-war sentiment in the US. Daniel Ellsberg now joins the ranks of hundreds of prominent engineers, physicists, economists, military officers, pilots, high-level intelligence analysts, and cabinet ministers who are exposing the 9/11 hoax.

 

Each day more and more respected professionals are going public with their questions about the official 9/11 fable. The 9/11 cover-up dam is breaking under the weight of these truthseekers' efforts and the perpetrators of 9/11 are watching them in horror while wondering who will be the next to speak up.

 

Here is a partial transcript of the interview:

 

Jack Blood: Have you had a chance to take a look at a lot of this information coming from America’s leading scholars, physicists, engineers, etc. Who have taken a look now at 9/11 and are now, not only questioning what might have happened on 9/11, but really being very direct including a number of high level …

 

Daniel Ellsberg: Actually, I have looked at a lot of that, and I’ll tell you without going into it all which would take a lot of time, I find some of it very implausible and other parts of it quite solid, and there’s no question in my mind that there’s enough evidence there to justify a very comprehensive and hard hitting investigation of a kind that we’ve not seen, with subpoenas, general questioning of people, and raising the release of a lot of documents, there’s no question that (D.E. chuckles) put it this way, very serious questions have been raised, about how much they knew beforehand and how much involvement there may been. Is the, is a administration capable, humanly and physiologically of engineering such a provocation?

 

Yes, I would say that, I worked for such an administration myself, Johnson, ah, President Johnson put destroyers in harm’s way in the Tonkin Gulf not only once, but several times, with the, with a lot of his people hoping that it would lead to a confrontation and claiming that it had. And could have resulted in the lost of many lives in the course of it. And what I’m saying now, by the way though is this, and here there’s a very strong analogy, to this day there is a controversy gone back and forth historically, as to who caused the Reichstag fire, the burning of their parliament, the Reichstag, on February 27 th 1933. Goering, at one point, the number two man in the Nazi regime, said “I set that fire”, later he denied that at Nuremberg, and I’ve noticed that the latest history suggests, that it wasn’t the Nazi’s. The point is that all this time later is there is still a controversy about that. But, what there’s no controversy about is the use the Nazi’s made of it, that very night and the next day.

 

J.B. Cui Bono, who benefits

 

D.E. February 28 th, there was a Reichstag fire decree that ended freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of association, all in the Weimar Constitution, and privacy of the postal system and of communications and of telephone, what ended here to, more than we knew four years ago right after 9/11. If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country, detention camps for middle-easterners and their quote “sympathizers”, critics of the President’s policy and essentially the wiping-out of the Bill of Rights.

 

J.B. I know your walking very carefully here Daniel Ellsberg, but that’s pretty strong medicine and we have to look at the history of the world, governments do this, as you mentioned, governments are liars, governments are murderers, they, this is not above them, I’m sure your familiar with the Northwoods Document.

 

D.E. Ah yes, indeed. Yeah talking about a manufactured provocation which could have involved even the shooting down of an American or some other airliner, with American support. Yes I would say by the way, that Americans definitely play this game, I’m sure that it’s happening now.

 

We, I expected by the way, Bush to manufacture a kind of Tonkin Gulf incident before he went into Iraq and then I decided well I’d been wrong they didn’t feel they needed that. It is interesting that the memos that came out, in conversations between Blair and Bush, (aka The White House Memo), show that Bush was pressing for the possibility of sending over a U-2 and getting it fired on and using that as an excuse.

 

J.B. A U-2 painted like a U.N., ah, a United Nations airplane.

 

D.E. Yes, but they couldn’t do that again for sure. But, what is happening right now is that Israel is clearly seeking a generally provocative act by both Hammas and Hezbollah, which I think were not wise acts some people are applauding those in the Middle-East passing out sweets and so forth, very short-sighted I would say, a lot of innocent people are going to die as a result.

 

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[GazeboflossUK]

 

C-SPAN to Air Historic 9/11 Exposé

9/11 + The Neo-Con Agenda Panel Discussion to Run on Saturday, July 29th at 8PM (EST)

 

C-SPAN has confirmed that their coverage of the 9/11 + The Neo-Con Agenda Panel Discussion will air on C-SPAN 1 on July 29th at 8PM (EST). The panel features incredible presentations by 9/11 Scholars for Truth founder James Fetzer, BYU Physics Professor Steven Jones, President of the Institute for Space and Security Studies Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret., Filmmaker and Radio Broadcaster Alex Jones, and Terrorism Expert Webster Tarpley.

 

The appearance of this discussion on the nation’s premiere public affairs cable network is an incredible boon to the 9/11 Truth Movement. None of the 9/11 Truth events that C-SPAN has covered in the past are as hard-hitting as the 9/11 + The Neo-Con Agenda program. This panel discussion cuts to the heart of the issue and exposes the events of September 11th, 2001 as a complex premeditated plot carried out by criminal elements within the U.S. Government as a pretext for launching a the endless “War on Terror” in which the globe is currently embroiled. C-SPAN’s coverage of this pivotal information will bring considerable national attention to the 9/11 Truth Movement. It will also lend further credibility to the Scholars for 9/11 Truth, the premiere organization within the movement for peer-reviewed scientific research on 9/11 issues.

 

Each member of the panel brought their own particular perspective and expertise to the discussion while each maintained throughout their comments that 9/11 was an “inside job.”

 

Alex Jones, a progenitor of the 9/11 Truth Movement introduced the panel and acted as moderator. Professor Steven E. Jones, an expert in Physics, re-capped his vital new research which has conclusively proven that demolition incendiaries were used to bring down World Trade Center and could have only been placed there in advance of 9/11.

 

As a Distinguished McKnight University Professor of Philosophy at the University of Minnesota and a former Marine Corps officer, James Fetzer cut through the myths surrounding the 9/11 hijackers. Former Air Force Interceptor Pilot Robert Bowman brought up the lack of air defense on the day of 9/11 and shed light on the slough of drills conducted on 9/11 to distract the military and prevent Flights 11 & 77 from being shot down.

 

Finally Author and Historian Webster Tarpley tied all of the information together to paint a picture of 9/11. He described the drills, Bush’s actions and the blow-by-blow details of that fateful day that revealed what could only be called the horrible truth of a conspiracy fact.

 

It is crucial that everyone see this historic panel discussion on C-SPAN. Tell your friends and family, email colleagues, and post links on message boards. This is an incredible step in spreading the word about the truth about 9/11.

 

The program will air on C-SPAN 1 at 8PM EST (7PM CST) on Saturday, July 29th and then air again for the West Coast at 11pm EST (10pm CST).

[GazeboflossUK]

You can watch the program online at the times stated above by clicking here.

 

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