http://www.myspace.com/savetheinternet

 

This is a very serious issue and I can't believe it hasn't gotten more mass-media circulation.

 

Our rights of free speech are being threatened. Watch the video on the site if you want to know more. I've already called Congress and left a message with my Senator.

Yes, I know...I have tried to talk about it before.

 

"Internet 2" is what they want.....we gotta stop it.

IS this stuff for real?

Yeah, it is. I already called my Senator and demanded she veto the act.

Ask a NINJA?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh? Someone OWNS the internet?! I didn't think you could own the internet....... News to me. But if it's going to make me have more pop ups and spam than I already have, then I'm all in to call my Congressional leaders... people...?

 

 

 

I'm obviously still confused as to who owns the internet.............. :stunned:

no one can control the internet.

It's not so much that anyone owns the internet right now, but that we'll all be forced to connect to the internet through an ISP who controls what content we view.

It's not so much that anyone owns the internet right now' date=' but that we'll all be forced to connect to the internet through an ISP who controls what content we view.[/quote']

 

ohh i didnt think about that.

Yes...it's basically going to be a system where the internet as we know it now will start to charge for emails and other services.....it will be ran into a crashing mess with slow speeds.

THEN we will be offered the chance to send our information quickly and for free with a new internet (Internet 2 or similar). However, this new system will have strict filtering of audio an politically sensitive content (much like china is now). And to set up you own website will require an application to the government, detailing the content of the site.....and if you national I.D card has a colour/code which is anything other than Green (or clean, if you wish) you will be denied.

 

I say this as if it is GOING to happen but it might not if we try to stop it.

they are already collecting data about us, and we can't stop it.

 

the http protocols which are common in internet are unsafe. through http the secret services will know which sites when did we visit. that's why some sites use https (for example at registrations) which is private and safe

 

though these services can't use this collected data against us (legally...) and they should delete it after 6 months. but still...it's my privacy which sites do i visit and i don't like if someone just knows everything about me. the opposite and the onliest positive side that the government is trying to prevent the terrorism with data collecting

positive side that the government is trying to prevent the terrorism with data collecting

 

Well, I believe terrorism is the factor behind all this proposed spying, data collecting and other snatching of our current freedoms.

Government creates/incites terrorism = people give up freedoms in the name of "security". Creating a problem and blaming it on others in order to gain control.

 

It's a tried and tested means that has worked for many many years - even back in Roman times.

 

So the more acts of terrorism against us, the easier for governments to pass laws to control us. simple - it's going to get worse - and soon.

 

What do you think all these recent bogus terror raids and the timely death of Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi are about?? They're not about stopping terrorism.

They are about giving the mass public a believable, plausible enemy to blame the next "staged" terror attack by the the UK or US governments.

 

Just wait until they unvail the death of Osama Bin Laden [a known CIA asset]....(who probably died before September 2001). It's going to be a sickening "Hurray!! for Bush and his war" by all the neo-cons who will persuade the masses that it was all worth while.

 

It's all in the plans to kill millions of us and for us all to become slaves.

 

Think about that over your breakfast.

 

 

Al-Zarqawi: Dead US Government Agent

Paul Joseph Watson and later Kurt Nimmo to discuss the death of Musab Al-Zarqawi and the bullet proof evidence that he was a Pentagon created boogeyman caricature use to take the fall for staged bombings in Iraq.

How can anyone own the internet, by definition an internet is a network of computers which can talk to each other, like in an office...

 

...What we are all on is the world wide web, and it won't be surprising that the americans are trying to sell it, even though it was created by a brit, it's those mulit-nation companies trying to get more money for their shareholders.

 

The Internet is something completely different to the world wide web.

no one can control the internet.

 

 

the government can.. I am sure they'll find a way to weasel their way into that one.

The US government can only control websites where the main site is hosted within the USA. If you have a website where it is hosted in say Mexico, the US governement has no control.

Hmm honestly, I don't think people will allow this.

^ No me neither. I can't see how governments could get control of the internet.

I meant, the public would never allow something like that.

Goverment can easily control the net, look at China.

I meant, the public would never allow something like that.

Goverment can easily control the net, look at China.

 

 

People could find a way around it I'm sure.

The US government can only control websites where the main site is hosted within the USA. If you have a website where it is hosted in say Mexico' date=' the US governement has no control.[/quote']

 

 

hmmm good point.... but I don't trust government of any form or nation lol :P

the american people woudnt let the goverment control the internet, and i doubt the goverment would even try. but if it did, their would be hell to pay.

lol ^ touche!! I agree.. and lets hope it never happens lol

but it WILL happen.....unless we get smart a learn about their plans. Remember you wont see all the developments on the TV.

AND it's huge companies like AT&T who are calling for this new Internet "two tier" system. These are the guys who almost RUN the net.

There was a kick in the face to people wanting it to stay free today too.

 

Defeat for net neutrality backers

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5063072.stm

I gotta say I'm glad to see big corporations supporting the protection of the net.

I would feel uneasy ordering things from amazon, knowing they support such unethical practise.

but it WILL happen.....unless we get smart a learn about their plans. Remember you wont see all the developments on the TV.

AND it's huge companies like AT&T who are calling for this new Internet "two tier" system. These are the guys who almost RUN the net.

There was a kick in the face to people wanting it to stay free today too.

 

Defeat for net neutrality backers

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5063072.stm

 

Its not going to happen. the goverment would never try that. it would be suicide.

Well, if they would never try it how come they are?

 

It's not about getting rid of the net, it's about making it less harmful to governments.

 

The beginnings of this started while ago the New York Times reported that "America Online and Yahoo, two of the world's largest providers of e-mail accounts, are about to start using a system that gives preferential treatment to messages from companies that pay from 1/4 of a cent to a penny each to have them delivered. The senders must promise to contact only people who have agreed to receive their messages, or risk being blocked entirely."

 

The first wave will simply attempt to price people out of using the conventional Internet and force people over to Internet 2, a state regulated hub where permission will need to be obtained directly from an FCC or government bureau to set up a website.

 

Even here BT's (British Telecom) Graham Whitehead has told the Irish Internet Association's Congress that the internet is dying, but that the future for broadband and networked technology is bright.

I'll quote him "The internet is dead, or dying; it's full of viruses, worms and porn, you have to wear a kevlar suit before you go online," he said. "BT is creating a private network, which will be joined to other private networks, to which we will add voice over IP."

It's all in a move to demonize the Internet and tar its reputation. AOL is running ads equating Internet users with terrorists. I saw this advert twice in the cinema one day. It's show Osama bin laden shots and tells you why the Interent is dangerous. In the next few years we may see a staged Internet shutdown which is blamed on cyber terrorists.

 

It's all in the stages of getting this into people heads.

 

The end game is a system similar to China, whereby no websites even mildly critical of the government will be authorized.