Maldini Posted October 29, 2006 Author Share Posted October 29, 2006 DISEASE CLAIMED MANY INMATESĀ The Holocaust extermination story is superficially plausible. Everyone has seen the horrific photos of dead and dying inmates taken at Bergen-Belsen, Nordhausen and other concentration camps when they were liberated by British and American forces in the final weeks of the war in Europe. These people were unfortunate victims, not of an extermination program, but of disease and malnutrition brought on by the complete collapse of Germany in the final months of the war. Indeed, if there had been an extermination program, the Jews found by Allied forces at the end of the war would have long since been killed. In the face of the advancing Soviet forces, large numbers of Jews were evacuated during the final months of the war from eastern camps and ghettos to the remaining camps in western Germany. These camps quickly became terribly overcrowded, which severely hampered efforts to prevent the spread of epidemics. Furthermore, the breakdown of the German transportation system made it impossible to supply adequate food and medicine to the camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntjd Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Hey Mr. genius I know it and I know he died at 1999Ā I think you forget that I talking about documented historyĀ He was the cheif of rabbi before, from 1967 to 1991 [ hope you didn't denied it ]Ā I don't live in oasis and maybe I know your history more than youĀ you live in a city thats in the middle of a desert.... hows that not an oasis lol?Ā and i live in a country with free speech... whose elections aren't rigged... and religious leaders don't shove shit into my head or down my throat.Ā and i don't believe in god. so yeah... if i live in a dream world and you don't you have some serious issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntjd Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 i'd also like to know why you feel the need to post such crap about the holocaust...Ā because its obvious its not your own writing... your grammar isn't THAT goodĀ the way i see it, i have no oposition to you not believing the holocaust ( i pity the fool) what i do have opposition is you posting this stuff here on coldplayingĀ theres absolutely no reason. except for your dislike for the jewish people. even if it is to spread your so called truth youare still scapegoating the jews because you plainly don't like us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 What about to put all these hallucination aside and let's talking about what I posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Smut Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 i'd also like to know why you feel the need to post such crap about the holocaust...Ā because its obvious its not your own writing... your grammar isn't THAT goodĀ the way i see it, i have no oposition to you not believing the holocaust ( i pity the fool) what i do have opposition is you posting this stuff here on coldplayingĀ theres absolutely no reason. except for your dislike for the jewish people. even if it is to spread your so called truth youare still scapegoating the jews because you plainly don't like us.Ā Well said that man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntjd Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 What about to put all these hallucination aside and let's talking about what I postedĀ we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 we are.Ā Ā In fact you avoiding debating what I posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 WHO BENEFITS ? The perpetual Holocaust media blitz is routinely used to justify enormous American support for Israel and to excuse otherwise inexcusable Israeli policies, even when they conflict with American interests. The sophisticated and well-financed Holocaust media campaign is crucially important to the intersts of Israel, which owes its existence to massive annual subsidies from American taxpayers. As Prof. W. D. Rubinstein of Australia has candidly acknowledged: "If the Holocaust can be shown to be a 'Zionist myth,' the strongest of all weapons in Israel's propaganda armory collapses." ("Quadrant" (Australia), Sept. 1979, p.27). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Smut Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 In fact you avoiding debating what I postedĀ Thats because your posting utter bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarsKay Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 i'm not usually insulting or rude, but maldini, you really are quite thick, dismissive and ignorant. the fact this thread has been stretched to 13 pages with repeative posts trying to convince you of undeniable facts being responded with your posts of no acknowledgement of them whatsoever leaves me to think this thread is a complete waste of time.Ā it has managed to upset many people while convincing no one of your initial flamatory statement. in fact it has done the complete opposite and solidified everyone's rightful opinion of the details of the Holocaust. i can only think you are ignorant enough to be so brave to challange a period of documented history that has, is and will continue to be remembered as a horrific scar on the history of mankind.Ā it did happen and the deaths of millions of people in the Holocaust should never dare to be denied. your remarks throughout this thread are shameful and disgusting.Ā no amount of fact fed through your monitor will be enough to make you understand. this is clearly demonstrated since to this page you still remain oblivious and disregard other people who have made very relevant points against your issues.Ā in the end, your mind will remain closed but the facts of what happened are wide open for the world to see. and it did happen. because you still won't get it, i see no reason to post in this thread again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniep_93 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Go Kathy! I second everything you just wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntjd Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 and i third it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 WHO BENEFITS ? PART IIĀ Jewish history teacher Paula Hyman of Columbia University has observed: "With regard to Israel, the Holocuast may be used to forestall political criticism and suppress debate; it reinforces the sense of Jews as an eternally beleaguered people who can rely for their defense only upon themselves. The invocation of the suffering endured by the Jews under the Nazis often takes the place of rational argument, and is expected to convince doubters of the legitimacy of current Israeli government policy." ('New York Times Magazine', Sept. 14, 1980, p. 79). One major reason that the Holocuast story has proven so durable is that the government of the major powers also have a vested interest in maintaining it. The victorious powers of the Second World War -- the United States, the Soviet Union and Britian -- have a stake in portraying the defeated Hitler regime as negatively as possible. The more evil and satanic the Hitler regime appears, the more noble and justified seems the Allied cause. For many Jews, the Holocaust has become both a flourishing buisness and a kind of new religion, as noted Jewish author and newspaper publisher Jacobo Timerman points out in his book, 'The Longest War.' He reports that many Israelis, using the word Shoah, which is Hebrew for Holocaust, joke that "There's no business like Shoah business." ('The Longest War', (New York: Vintage, 1982), p. 15). The Holocaust media campaign portrays Jews as totally innocent victims, and non-Jews as mortally retarded and unreliable beings who can easily turn into murderous Nazis under the right circumstances. This self-serving but distorted portrayal greatly strengthens Jewish group solidarity and self-awareness. A key lesson of the Holocaust story for Jews is that non-Jews are never completely trustworthy. If a people as cultured and as educated as the Germans could turn against the Jews, so the thinking goes, than surely no non-Jewish nation can ever be completely trusted. The Holocaust message is thus one of contempt for humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 Fred A. Leuchter is America's leading specialist on the design and fabrication of execution equipment, including homicidal gas chambers. In 1988, Leuchter scraped samples from the alleged gas chamber walls in Auschwitz, Birkenau and Lublin. Cyanide residue would be clearly evident on all these walls if gassings did occur. To his astonishment, Leuchter found no significant cyanide traces in any one of these rooms. Ā In 1991, the Polish government repeated these tests to disprove Leuchter's findings, but they as well found no evidence of any gassings ever occurring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntjd Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 well the gas wasn't cyanide. it was zyklon b. so there you go... of course theres gonna be no cyanide. and theres no gas chamber in lublin so wtf are you thinking of. yet again wrong i see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 well the gas wasn't cyanide. it was zyklon b. so there you go... of course theres gonna be no cyanide. and theres no gas chamber in lublin so wtf are you thinking of. yet again wrong i see...Ā Zyklon B never used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychosaiqa Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 yes it was! that was the main gas they used...Ā ya know what, come over here and check out a history book from my library. you might learn a thing or two about the holocaust. the us might be israel's best ally and vice verse, but there's no denying the holocaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntjd Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Zyklon B never usedĀ what planet are you living on?Ā wiki,Ā http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_bĀ yes it was cyanide based... but it was in gaseous form...Ā so traces of gases don't exist. you should know that from chemistry. gases never form precipitates unless cooled down significantly well below freezing temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychosaiqa Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 what planet are you living on?Ā wiki,Ā http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_bĀ yes it was cyanide based... but it was in gaseous form...Ā so traces of gases don't exist. you should know that from chemistry. gases never form precipitates unless cooled down significantly well below freezing temperature. i totally remember learning about precipitates and gases last year in chemistry...such fond memories. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 what planet are you living on?Ā wiki,Ā http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_bĀ yes it was cyanide based... but it was in gaseous form...Ā so traces of gases don't exist. you should know that from chemistry. gases never form precipitates unless cooled down significantly well below freezing temperature.Ā If you read about Germany during the WWII. You will know that these camps were connected to the sewage system of the city. So if poisonous Zyklon-B gas was used in the burning of the corpses, this gas would have leaked from the sewers to all the city's houses, and would have poisoned and burned everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntjd Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 i think you should go to the camps first then comment.Ā gas doesn't go in the sewage. excrement does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 i think you should go to the camps first then comment.Ā gas doesn't go in the sewage. excrement does.Ā What:dozey: Ā Excuse me but I watch it at the TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntjd Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 yes. and i'm sure that gives a more authentic view of the place than actually being there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 What you mean by this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntjd Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 how can watching on tv tell you what is true. normally one believes what he can see in front of him and touch with his own hands, smell with his own nose, hear with his own ears.Ā tv does not do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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